RE: Renaultsport Clio 172: Spotted

RE: Renaultsport Clio 172: Spotted

Thursday 28th February

Renaultsport Clio 172: Spotted

Nope, you're not reading Shed a day early, the 172 is now a classic pocket rocket - best move fast!



At a certain age, Renault hot hatches will only feature on selected PH pages - either as Sheds, or as bargain track projects. It's just what happens, and was probably once as true for the 5 as it is today for the Clio and Megane. They're popular and plentiful at launch, meaning supply pushes values down and keeps them accessible; combine that with a host of readily available tuning parts to improve decent dynamics yet further and it all makes sense. Who wouldn't want a really fun, affordable, hot hatch that can simply and cheaply be made even better?

The trouble, as you're probably aware, is two-fold: it reduces the amount of standard cars around (because so many are tinkered with), and the fondness for driving Renaultsport hot hatches quickly (combined with their notoriously flighty characters) has depleted numbers of all versions thanks to the inevitable bashes and scrapes.


The corollary of all that - a typically formidable reputation, a culture of modifying and a range of cars quite easy to crash - means that certain old Renaults are now worth a pretty penny. The mid-engined 5s were always going to be, of course, each as mad as a box of frogs being driven around by Jean Ragnotti. But look too at the 5 GT Turbo, once expertly cast as Ali G's car and common as muck, yet now commanding several thousand. Same with the Clio Williams; never quite as chavvy, sure, but seemingly only rising in significance, rarity and value.

Now it appears to be the time of the Phase 2 Renault Clio, appropriately enough in the 20th anniversary year of the 172's arrival. As the car to really announce Renaultsport to the UK public - the Spider having tamely done so - the 172 was always of some importance, a reputation helped by being absolutely tremendous to drive. But, of course, that couldn't prevent it from the ravages of time, buyer taste and, er, lift-off oversteer. 172s have featured in Shed stories as often as smutty jokes (often to more acclaim...) for all the reasons above: they're cheap, fast and fantastic fun.

Now the 172s are climbing out of the bargain basement bin. This one looks like an absolute corker, which doesn't happen often: less than 70,000 miles, three owners, an exhaustive history and no modifications. The ad reads well, the car looks superb and the cambelt was changed two years ago - it's a gem of a Clio.


Hence the £5,500 price tag. There are cheaper cars available though not as many as you might think - but good 172s and 182s are only going one way now, thanks to their rarity and the movement of the Clio away from these raw, feisty hot hatches. Same as happened with the 5, same as happened with the Williams. One day it'll probably happen to the 197 and 200 era of cars, albeit not for a little while yet. With the Clio RS now five-door, turbocharged and automatic for the foreseeable future - indeed with much of the market going that way - the appeal of these more traditional hot hatches will only increase.

So get in while you can, enjoy these cars now and learn why they're so revered; do it before either there aren't any left, or they're worth too much to regularly use - you only need look at older, similar cars for the evidence of what could happen. The 172 has been a riotously good hot hatch for 20 years now, and will be for many more - don't hang about, in other words!


SPECIFICATION - RENAULTSPORT CLIO 172
Engine:
1,998cc, 4-cyl
Transmission: 5-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 172@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 148@5,250rpm
MPG: 35.8
CO2: 186g/km
First registered: 2000
Recorded mileage: 69,000
Price new: £15,995
Yours for: £5,500

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ZX10R NIN

Original Poster:

13,363 posts

64 months

Thursday 28th February
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It was always going to happen although I think it's a bit soon but give it another few years & this car will be on the money price wise.

culpz

3,918 posts

51 months

Thursday 28th February
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Guys, that particularly-decent example shown is actually a Phase 1 and not a Phase 2.

Edited by culpz on Thursday 28th February 08:56

DoubleTime

1,239 posts

81 months

Thursday 28th February
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Great cars but if you crashed one of these due to lift off over steer you were either driving like a complete bellend or really shouldn't be aloud in one in the first place because you can't drive.

andySC

726 posts

97 months

Thursday 28th February
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I had a new one in 2000. Paid the full £16k for it...jeez. There might’ve been a bit of a waiting list for them back then (...or maybe that was Salesman blarney). I loved the car, it felt genuinely quick back then, muscular little things. Had it to Cadwell and Donnington on trackdays and it was great fun. Brakes, not so much. I remember at 80mph it pulled really strongly, I’d never had that in a car previously. I ran it for 2 years then sold it to my brother, I then bought it back off him a few years later and kept it another year or so. W433 HKU where are you now?

Ashwiltshire

1 posts

1 month

Thursday 28th February
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Had a sunflower yellow clio 172 around 10 years ago now. Great little car, regret selling it and was as rare as they get, apparently only 32 made for the uk in that colour
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AlexIT

643 posts

77 months

Thursday 28th February
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Unfortunately it's currently not being used, but mine still sits in the garage.

It's probably about time to get the cambelt, although I think it has less than 20.000 miles on it, but 7 years, and get it running smile

nikaiyo2

2,071 posts

134 months

Thursday 28th February
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These were great cars, had one from brand new in 2000, it came as a euro import back when that was still a thing, so I think I paid £12.5 or £14.5 for it. Y995UKP was the reg smile

They were so willing, on a B road it flew! The mpg quoted is also real 35+ was easily doable. 6 CD changer under the drivers seat that was luxury to me back then smile

i keep thing about getting another one!



Edited by nikaiyo2 on Thursday 28th February 12:01

mstrbkr

6,942 posts

137 months

Thursday 28th February
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DoubleTime said:
Great cars but if you crashed one of these due to lift off over steer you were either driving like a complete bellend or really shouldn't be aloud in one in the first place because you can't drive.
It's really easy to get the rear to move around on these cars though. Really easy. It possible to crash one without driving like a complete bellend. Inexperience (as in no understanding of lift off oversteer which is the vast majority of people) and a roundabout at 20mph on a wet road will see one of these swap ends. There is such an imbalance of weight with these cars...

Edited by mstrbkr on Thursday 28th February 11:07

blade7

8,454 posts

155 months

Thursday 28th February
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I looked at 3 or 4 172's about 10 years ago, they were all mullered or had dodgy service history. They did drive like they had more 20bhp over the mk6 Fiesta ST though.

DBSnappa

76 posts

170 months

Thursday 28th February
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This is actually my wife’s old car. She inherited from her mother, who bought it new and at the age of 80 a couple of years ago decided she wanted a new hot hatch and bought a fiesta ST.
We sold it last year to what I assume is the new vendor. The cam belts were done by my nephew’s garage by a former Renault sport fitter. The car had a comprehensive history and maintenance file and the mileage is genuine.
It was a great car, we only let it go as we live in London, which is less than ideal for this car, and we will be doing more motorway miles (again, not this cars preferred hunting grounds) in the future visiting aging relatives around the country.

Alex_225

3,131 posts

140 months

Thursday 28th February
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The MKI 172 was always the rarer of the two 172s but I recall being a big fan of them as at the time I was 19 and had a lowly 1.2 model.

It's inevitable these will creep up in value, as said further up in the thread, some colours are stupidly low in numbers and the MKI didn't sell in anywhere near the numbers the MKII and MKII 182s did.

I'm not surprised that's commanding strong money, these are still excellent cars to drive and inexpensive to own.

I can also imagine the 172 Exclusive models starting to appear at silly prices, those were limited to 172 examples but also came with a full cream leather interior and in Scarab Green only. If I'm recalling correctly.

WCZ

6,284 posts

133 months

Thursday 28th February
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the ph1 was the fastest of the bunch iirc

great cars!

the brakes are awful though on every single model

Gilhooligan

1,480 posts

83 months

Thursday 28th February
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Ashwiltshire said:


Had a sunflower yellow clio 172 around 10 years ago now. Great little car, regret selling it and was as rare as they get, apparently only 32 made for the uk in that colour
Awesome. A friend of a friend has a sunflower 172 that at one point was caged, stripped interior and supercharged. Got taken for a passenger ride in it and it was pretty good fun.

Alex_225

3,131 posts

140 months

Thursday 28th February
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WCZ said:
the ph1 was the fastest of the bunch iirc
Apparently so. Aluminium bonnets on the early ones so meant to be lighter than the MKII 172 Cup that came later.

drewos

55 posts

123 months

Thursday 28th February
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culpz said:
Guys, that particularly-decent example shown is actually a Phase 1 and not a Phase 2.

Edited by culpz on Thursday 28th February 08:56
It's a Phase 1 172 of a Phase/Mk2 Clio

aaron_2000

2,775 posts

22 months

Thursday 28th February
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andySC said:
W433 HKU where are you now?
Gone since 2011

Omega1987

23 posts

11 months

Thursday 28th February
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They're nice cars although I think the Clio peaked with the 182 personally. Not sure it's worth that kind of money though. The Saxo VTS is probably more fondly remembered and suffered more at the hands of bad drivers so I would imagine they'd be worth more but I've yet to see one go for this sort of money

Jon_S_Rally

223 posts

27 months

Thursday 28th February
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WCZ said:
the brakes are awful though on every single model
Can't say I ever thought that about my 172 Cup. 280mm discs on a sub-1000kg car is fine. I know plenty of people racing them who just fit different pads and fluid.

Great cars, really miss mine. Values are definitely on the up now.

andySC

726 posts

97 months

Thursday 28th February
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aaron_2000 said:
andySC said:
W433 HKU where are you now?
Gone since 2011
Rest In Pieces.

aaron_2000

2,775 posts

22 months

Thursday 28th February
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andySC said:
aaron_2000 said:
andySC said:
W433 HKU where are you now?
Gone since 2011
Rest In Pieces.
Rest Upside Down In A Hedge