RE: The Brave Pill: Jaguar S-Type R

RE: The Brave Pill: Jaguar S-Type R

Saturday 2nd March

The Brave Pill: Jaguar S-Type R

1950s styling and a 1970s pricetag add up to a 2019 performance bargain, right?



It seems that the PH massive has a mature attitude to automotive risk. Reaction to our first Brave Pill, last week's Merc CLK 55 AMG, was positive enough that captain Nic has decided to give the format a second sailing. But also to send us into even murkier waters. It's fair to say that few are going to regard an elderly high-performance Jaguar as a cautious investment.

This S-Type R is here both on its individual merits - we reckon it looks like a properly good 'un - but also as exemplar for what has to be one of the best value performance sleepers currently out there. With the combination of a muscular V8 and right-wheel drive, like the '55, you might also be spotting a pattern here, and it's certainly true that a disproportionate number of potential Brave Pills share this worthy combination. Don't worry, all won't.

Cue up Survivor's Eye of the Tiger, because the S-Type R is a classic tale of automotive redemption, or how the bad became good. In the Museum of Terrible Automotive Ideas - something I'm planning to eke out my eventual retirement - there will an entire hall dedicated to retro styling. This strange fad gripped the car industry in the mid 1990s and led to a series of curious, time-shifted homages to an idealised past. The most successful, in terms of sales to overweight divorcees if not critical plaudits, was the new Volkswagen Beetle. Misses included the Chrysler PT Cruiser, 2002 Ford Thunderbird and - furthest from the board of all - the Jaguar S-Type.


Introduced in 1998, at the same motorshow as the fifties throwback Rover 75, the S-Type riffed half-heartedly on various themes that had originated with its 1963 namesake. So it had goggly headlights, rounded-off front wings and even an attempt at the curved rear door glass Jaguar used to do so well. It also had a strange 'accent' slash down the sides which made it look as if the owner had goaded Wolverine into a road-rage incident. It shared a platform with the almost entirely forgotten Lincoln LS and - like its US cousin - had a palpable air of cheapness about it, especially its low rent interior plastics.

It was also completely unexciting, especially with the entry-level Ford V6 engine. I remember driving one in a magazine comparison against an E39 530i and W210 E320 and feeling acutely embarrassed at the S's mehness. Amazingly - given the ownership profile of the XJ and XK at the time - the S-Type actually managed to increase the average age of a Jaguar buyer.

Which is where the S-Type R came in, an antidote to the dullness of the standard car. Ian Callum had become Jaguar's design boss by the time it was launched, and under his watch it was made far more modern, losing the chrome trim and Ye Olde half-timbered cabin, gaining a bodykit and some arch-filling 18-inch alloys. Power came from a 4.2-litre version of the AJ-V8, but with a yowly Eaton M112 supercharger to add some gravel to the standard engine's cream. With 396hp it had 102hp more than the regular V8 and the same as a contemporary E39 M5. Jaguar claimed a 5.3 second 0-60mph time and that - without the standard 155mph limiter - the car would be able to reach 191mph, given a long enough straight.


It worked, too. The R sold in respectable numbers - meaning there are still plenty to choose from - although depreciation has since done some spectacular reaping. Although prices have stabilised, the S-Type R is still one of the cheapest ways to experience 400hp without the serious risk of winning a Darwin Award. For £7,495 before haggling this privately-sold one isn't the cheapest - ratty versions can go for a fair bit less - but it does look like an enticing prospect for somebody with a stout heart and a high tolerance for sometimes painful running costs.

While the S-Type R has lived its life in the shadow of the M5, it has also tended to appeal to a different clientele, one that - all things being equal - you'd probably prefer to buy a car from. The R is softer edged and, although its huge fun to make its supercharger yowl like a yodeling cat, its real forte has always been as a high-speed cruiser than a racetrack warrior. (At this point I have to add a link to the time a visit to a circuit in one went catastrophically wrong for Jaguar F1 pilot Antonio Pizzonia.) That means less abuse and a fair chance of getting a generous quantity of carefully preserved invoices.

This advert claims a full service history, which would need to be verified, but we should take more encouragement from the fact the vendor is using a branded Jaguar paper protector to keep the passenger floormat immaculate. It certainly looks pristine in the pictures, it's wearing a matching set of Michelin Pilot Sport tyres and boasts an MOT history clean enough to eat your dinner from. Advisories warn of little but the sort of brake and rubber consumption you'd be surprised not to see in something big and heavy and, in 2014, a solidary oil leak which hasn't come back since. The only obvious downside to this one is that it was first registered in June 2006, meaning it is one of the few Rs to have slipped into the higher VED rates: £555 annually, rather than the £315 if it had been registered before the 23rd March.


Ah well, although painful, the extra tax will just be where the wallet-hurt starts. Even cautious S-Type R owners admit it's hard to get mpg into the 20s and staying on top of routine maintenance will be pricey. Oil changes are at 12,000 miles intervals, it needs plugs every 30,000 miles and the six-speed auto 'box should have its oil swapped at 50,000 miles. Electrical problems are a possibility, as is rust in sills and wheelarches (although with no sign of that here.) You'll be getting Christmas cards from your Jaguar specialist in other words, maybe even a hamper.

But don't concentrate on the negatives, they're not why we're here. This is a 400hp saloon with room for the kids and a Mad Max soundtrack for less than a three-year old diesel hatchback. Someone needs to give this stray cat a good home.

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powerstroke

Original Poster:

8,084 posts

99 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Brave pill !!! I think you need to find things that would bankrupt not pocket money cars that cost less than the first year depreciation
on a family hatchback ... look for a rusty Italian exotic with a noisy camshaft that's also insurance cat C perhaps ....

Ahbefive

11,599 posts

111 months

Saturday 2nd March
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powerstroke said:
Brave pill !!! I think you need to find things that would bankrupt not pocket money cars that cost less than the first year depreciation
on a family hatchback ... look for a rusty Italian exotic with a noisy camshaft that's also insurance cat C perhaps ....
I disagree. I believe the point of the article is to be looking at things a PHer might be brave enough to buy and enjoy rather than something knackered that nobody wants.

legless

771 posts

79 months

Saturday 2nd March
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I'm almost certain that this exact car started out life as my boss's company car when I worked at JLR.

AC43

6,706 posts

147 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Back in early 2000's a mate of mine had one of these and took me out in it for blast and, oddly enough, I was impressed - it had 100bhp more than my DD at the time. The damping wasn't quite as good but overall I thought it was a pretty good package. Plus nobody had a clue what it was which really appealed.

Having said that his had had a catastrophic engine failure, He lived in Twickehman and the car spend a lot of time in traffic doing stop strart stuff. My memory is very vague but I seem to remember him telling me that it had started running oddly and he'd had it back in a few times before the engine grenaded. I seem to remember him telling me that it turned out that the root cause had been that the cats had become blocked which in turn caused the failure.

He was asked to pay for a new engine but in the end Jaguar covered 80%+ as he'd argued that they should have diagnosed this during their frequent attempts to solve the poor running.

He sold it shortly afterwards and I did toy with the idea of buying it but in the end I was happy with my C43 so stuck with it.

I've kept an eye out for V8 Jags ever since (especially the s/c ones) and am happy to say that the neighbour over the road has two - an XKR and an XFR. Conceptually these cars are close the large engined Merc thing that I like and he agrees - the few times he hasn't had a Jag in his life he's had a V8 Merc.





dme123

4,530 posts

128 months

Saturday 2nd March
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No brave pills required for these or the contemporary XJ; for all the styling was questionable the quality was not. Just avoid the diesels and watch out for rusty sills on S-Types.
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Andy665

2,294 posts

167 months

Saturday 2nd March
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I sold my 02 plate one several years ago - probably the best all round car I have ever had

Not quite as sharp as an E39 M5 but a wonderful mix of performance, fun, comfort and subtlety

In the 2 years I owned mine nothing went wrong, nothing broke, used no oil or water - was a superb all round car

I replaced mine with a CL500, which looks apart was an inferior car in every way

Edited by Andy665 on Saturday 2nd March 08:40

MOBB

1,067 posts

66 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Wonderful cars imo, I had a facelift 2005 one in blue

Biggest shock to me was that they really handle well


Gameface

7,562 posts

16 months

Saturday 2nd March
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191mph my arse.

AC43

6,706 posts

147 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Gameface said:
191mph my arse.
I was wondering about that. I thought that 400bhp in a reasonably aerodynamic modern would get you to 170mph tops.



Gameface

7,562 posts

16 months

Saturday 2nd March
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AC43 said:
Gameface said:
191mph my arse.
I was wondering about that. I thought that 400bhp in a reasonably aerodynamic modern would get you to 170mph tops.
Same top speed as a Quadrifoglio with over 100bhp more... scratchchin

hammo19

1,915 posts

135 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Perfect brave pill material this Jaguar. Keep these coming please they are interesting thought provoking articles.

scottmelvin96

6 posts

85 months

Saturday 2nd March
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I had one and was great untill 70k with full jaguar service history broke a gear box. 4k later and was fixed then quickly sold. Remember also you still pay new Jag prices for parts etc. Nice car however but budget for high running costs obviously

irocfan

18,610 posts

129 months

Saturday 2nd March
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a much better BP than the 1st edition's AMG. Very nice

GranCab

1,397 posts

85 months

Saturday 2nd March
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One of my brothers had one of these for a short while ( from new ) . I couldn't stand the whining supercharger noise every time it accelerated.

He sold it after we christened him "Inspector Morse " ...

Cambs_Stuart

416 posts

23 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Really enjoying this new feature. I've always struggled to tick all the boxes of the "cheap, fast, reliable" conundrum and this is throwing up some useful ideas.
Although a new box of "acceptable running costs" might be needed.

borat52

142 posts

147 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Agree that this should be relatively hassle free if you buy with eyes open.

The 4.2 engines are a development of the 4.0 so a much improved, the gearboxes are not known to fail and it's a pretty simple car relative to the modern super saloons.

Add to that the fact that the drivetrain went into XK and XJ''s there should be plenty of spares knocking around at the breakers yards should you need them.

Buy a rust free one and I would have thought many years of trouble free motoring are likely.

jamiem555

513 posts

150 months

Saturday 2nd March
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https://youtu.be/8kmnn_UMelE
I was onboard the Puma when we did this. It was certainly quick then with JC hitting the limiter at some points.

HM-2

4,243 posts

108 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Gameface said:
AC43 said:
Gameface said:
191mph my arse.
I was wondering about that. I thought that 400bhp in a reasonably aerodynamic modern would get you to 170mph tops.
Same top speed as a Quadrifoglio with over 100bhp more... scratchchin
To play devil's advocate, the E36 M3 GT managed a top speed of 171 with under 300 claimed BHP, and there's plenty of exotica that do around 190 on around 400bhp, like the Ferrari 360.

No that I'm saying the S-R can, but I don't think it's quite as unbelievable as it sounds. It might well do an indicated 190!

Gameface

7,562 posts

16 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Ferrari only claimed just over 180mph for the Modena, which has a much more slippery shape that bluff fronted Jaguar saloon.


MX5Biologist

50 posts

114 months