RE: Volvo to fit all cars with 112mph speed limiter

RE: Volvo to fit all cars with 112mph speed limiter

Monday 4th March

Volvo to fit all cars with 112mph speed limiter

As of next year not a single new Volvo will exceed 180km/h - here's why



Remember what a car represented to you when learning to drive? The freedom, the excitement, the possibility to go wherever you wanted at whatever time. Listen to certain people and you’ll hear that that freedom is being curtailed, what with the advance of both road and car technology; the vehicle is able to do more driving, the authorities have more ways than ever of monitoring you. By and large we at PH reckon there’s still some life left in driving for driving’s sake, but now Volvo has announced a compulsory speed limiter is to be fitted on all its cars from next year of 180km/h (112mph).

Now, ostensibly this is on the grounds of safety, Volvo of course being Volvo and also stating that 25 per cent of all US traffic fatalities in 2017 were caused by excess speed. And we’re not here to condone being sat at 120mph on a crowded motorway, obviously; that’s dangerous and illegal. But what Volvo has done here, in limiting its cars to a speed beyond all speed limits we know of in trying to “completely end serious injuries in fatalities in its cars”, is neither fish nor fowl. It’s taken away a chunk of the driver’s responsibility in governing speed, yet not done something truly bold in, say, using navigation, camera and radar technology to ensure its cars never exceed any speed limit on any given road. That truly would be a bold and innovative step, and would in theory ensure no new Volvo was ever caught speeding again, or involved in an incident where excess speed was a factor, but would you buy a car that restricted? Exactly.

Volvo’s release states that “while speed limitation is not a cure-all, it’s worth doing if we can even save one life.” That said, surely any accident at 90, 100 or 110mph is going to be pretty serious, in the same way it still would have been at 115mph or 120mph. It appears a compromise between a desire for a safety conscious image and the need to sell cars, as a move too far one way or the other could upset the balance. So the result is something that sits on the fence. 


Japan of course has limited cars to 180km/h for a long time now on the grounds of safety, though incidents still happen - it’s certainly no guarantee of reducing accidents, because sometimes even 50mph can even be too fast on a slippery road with poor visibility. To Volvo’s credit the push towards reducing injuries and fatalities will also include a focus on distraction and intoxication as well, meaning the entire focus is not simply a draconian one on eliminating excess speed at all costs.

This still seems like a slippery slope, however. Volvo suggests that drivers do not recognise the danger involved in speed; on the contrary, it could be argued that many do, but may continue anyway because either their cars make them feel too well insulated, or they enjoy the thrill, puerile though it may sound. There’s way more to crashes involving excess speed than simply how fast the car can go.

Volvo will present its ideas on tackling issues around intoxication and distraction at a safety event in Gothenburg later this month, with the speed limit presumably coming in on all cars produced from next year. It’s an intriguing development, one that seems unlikely to be unique to Volvo. Perhaps it’ll be seen one day as entirely normal, just as the 155mph limiters are accepted today. And all this whingeing about driver responsibility, liberty and an obsession with speed will seem a bit old hat. Let’s wait and see…

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simonrockman

5,738 posts

194 months

Monday 4th March
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No longer "boxy but good", Volvo now wants a 180kmh limit on all cars and automatic geofencing to automatically limit speeds around schools and hospitals.


LordGrover

30,345 posts

151 months

Monday 4th March
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Don Roque

16,475 posts

98 months

Monday 4th March
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fk off Volvo, you used to be cool.

jamei303

1,757 posts

95 months

Monday 4th March
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People who want to drive faster than 112mph on public roads probably don't tend to buy a new Volvo for such purposes anyway.

RemyMartin81D

4,480 posts

144 months

Monday 4th March
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Let's not get too frothy.

Japan limits everything , including GT-Rs don't hear people crying about that.

If you want to get snitty. No one NEEDs to do more than 112mph on the public road...I get why people would get upset about the whole nannying aspect.
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akirk

2,836 posts

53 months

Monday 4th March
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No objection to areas like schools having slower passing traffic
every objection to a big brother world where arrogant companies treat adults as idiots who are incapable of making safe decisions...

trouble is - far too many drivers actually prove them right...
and certainly near our village school it is mainly parents!

Sensibleboy

733 posts

64 months

Monday 4th March
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How many crashes are caused by cars doing over 112mph? I imagine hardly any.

MYOB

2,411 posts

77 months

Monday 4th March
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Capping the speed limit on a Volvo won't have an effect on most drivers, but surely drivers should be able to turn it off in the settings for the police and even autobahn use.

Finlandia

7,415 posts

170 months

Monday 4th March
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Volvo has already stated that in 2020 no one will die or get seriously hurt in a Volvo. Judging by that, this limit will need to come down by around another 100mph biggrin

pmanson

12,294 posts

192 months

Monday 4th March
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It's all well and good but the systems have got to improve significantly first.

Case in my point my XC90 will give me speed limit alerts if i'm joining a DC alongside another road (it will say i'm over the limit as i'm accelerating up/down the slip road). I wouldn't want it deciding to limit power/apply the brakes in these situations.

Also, the car has a system where it will apply the brakes if it thinks you're about to hit someone, however quite often gets triggered when cars are waiting in the middle of the road to turn right and the route i want to take is clear.

Rich Boy Spanner

162 posts

69 months

Monday 4th March
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Give Volvo the Gillette award for extremely patronising behaviour in treating its customers like idiots.

There are lots of things to be done to stop road deaths, those driving in excess of 112 MPH are very unlikely to be any significant factor in any of them.

keirik

1,271 posts

82 months

Monday 4th March
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Finlandia said:
Volvo has already stated that in 2020 no one will die or get seriously hurt in a Volvo. Judging by that, this limit will need to come down by around another 100mph biggrin
Most people die outside a Volvo. Doesn't mean the Volvo is being driven safely though.

Protect the driver, kill the innocent bystanders has always been the Volvo way. There's a reason motorcyclists always hated them

underphil

1,031 posts

149 months

Monday 4th March
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Sensibleboy said:
How many crashes are caused by cars doing over 112mph? I imagine hardly any.
isn't that because hardly anyone drives that fast?

geeks

4,169 posts

78 months

Monday 4th March
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I get limiting a car to 112, all Jap imports arrive this way and they are easily removed for those who wish to tank down the Autobahn or attend a trackday (although I would question the number of Volvos required for these purposes, not say there are 0 but it can't far off hehe)

Geofencing limits is a very tricky one to achieve though and not really a great idea in built up areas where GPS is less than useful in all but the highest of high end kit. For example MK hospital is off an NSL D/C with a 30 mph limit running almost parallel to the D/C, last thing we need is the system/GPS to get confused and brake someone at random!

As an idea it I can see the sense but the application and practicality of this is fraught with Daily Mail style headlines! It shouldn't be needed of course but drivers have very much on numerous occasions proven they cannot be trusted.

untakenname

1,809 posts

131 months

Monday 4th March
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Bit of an own goal when it comes to their Polestar brand, Volvo needs to appeal to more than just sanctimonious overprotective females on the school run.

The last stand out car in segment from them was the XC90 which was 17 years ago, can't see why you would be a Volvo other other manufacturers offerings these days in any segment.


sc0tt

Original Poster:

16,095 posts

140 months

Monday 4th March
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You pay your money, you make your choice. If this doesn't sit well with potential purchasers then they are free to go elsewhere.

DaveTheRave87

1,218 posts

28 months

Monday 4th March
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So Volvo thinks 111mph is safe? wink

telecat

8,449 posts

180 months

Monday 4th March
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Volvo do make some strange decisions and this seems to be a sales killer. Cannot imagine any German buyer will be impressed either.

fast diesel boy

79 posts

2 months

Monday 4th March
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Next RE:..Volvo go into administration.

Good riddance.

rykard

406 posts

120 months

Monday 4th March
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How many 'accidents' occur above 100mph? This is just headline grabbing, those who think 112 is quick will still buy them...