RE: Volkswagen ID. Buggy: Geneva 2019

RE: Volkswagen ID. Buggy: Geneva 2019

Monday 4th March

Volkswagen ID. Buggy: Geneva 2019

All-electric beach car pays homage to the Beetle-based original - and could inspire a road-going model



So often are quirky versions of production cars shown at motor shows the idealistic dreams of designers, that it'd be easy to label Volkswagen's just-revealed ID Buggy as a case of pie in the sky. But, rather excitingly, this EV beach buggy concept is one that could actually go on sale according to its maker. How cool is that?

Ok, so Volkswagen has no plans to officially produce the model itself, but instead has categorically said that the underlying MEB platform - a skateboard chassis made up of the car's lithium-ion batteries and motor - would be available for purchase sans body, so an independent firm could build said buggy on top of it. This is the process that created the original Beetle-based buggy, which was first conceived as the Meyers Manx in 1964, after all.


Volkswagen's Geneva concept is therefore more of a pitch of what it believes possible - and appropriate - for such a vehicle. The MEB platform is modular, so the ID Buggy can come in rear or all-wheel drive, with the latter possible when a prop shaft is added. With this, the ID Buggy and its 204hp and 236lb ft of instantaneous torque can accelerate from zero to 62mph in 7.2 seconds. Not bad. Range is rated at 155 miles and it takes half an hour of plug time to get 80 per cent of that.

This being a buggy, Volkswagen's not bothered to equip the car with a roof or doors - although there is a roll-over hoop for noggin-protection - and has instead given the car a simple, tub-like body that takes inspiration from the ID hatch and also the Manx. And while the concept car is a two-seater, VW reckons it'd be easy to produce a four-seat version, emphasising just how flexible these underpinnings could be.

The concept is a car for the 2020s, so naturally the ID Buggy has digital infotainment inside - hopefully with some form of waterproofing - with phone connectivity and the usual media functions. VW's decision to include this is probably to emphasise that its MEB base can extend beyond the bits that underpin and power a car. Will that be enough to tempt an aftermarket firm into producing a buggy or something similar? Hopefully. The beach fronts of California must be crying out for something like this.









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Big Robbo

Original Poster:

32 posts

85 months

Monday 4th March
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Just what everyone needs ... another niche model in a niche nobody needs or wants..bravo VW get back to cooking the books!

andrewparker

3,405 posts

126 months

Monday 4th March
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Big Robbo said:
Just what everyone needs ... another niche model in a niche nobody needs or wants..bravo VW get back to cooking the books!
You didn’t read the article did you...

RobDickinson

25,237 posts

193 months

Monday 4th March
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Ev platforms like the MEB are going to enable a much wider variety of vehicles and make them more accessible and cheaper.

Cars that wouldnt have been made before will get made.

B17NNS

17,959 posts

186 months

Monday 4th March
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A welcome return to coach building then. Great concept. I’ll take mine in purple metal flake hippy

Love to see a modern take on the Karmann Ghia.

Edited by B17NNS on Monday 4th March 21:25

Caddyshack

1,184 posts

145 months

Monday 4th March
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I think the 80% time to charge the battery also needs to be regulated to explain how long that last 20% takes. I suspect that this takes a long time if the cells need to balance and if they do then they need doing quite often for optimum battery health. Ideally the ecu should log the type of charges so you know how they have been looked after in 2nd hand market.

Will the second hand market be the same for elec or will it be like mobile phones and laptops?
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garyhun

26,241 posts

167 months

Monday 4th March
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Love the idea.

rockin

6,232 posts

184 months

Monday 4th March
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If VW build it I'll buy it.

Unfortunately VW have a habit of showing Buggy concepts which never come to fruition.... https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/concept-cars/vw...



garyhun

26,241 posts

167 months

Monday 4th March
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rockin said:
If VW build it I'll buy it.

Unfortunately VW have a habit of showing Buggy concepts which never come to fruition.... https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/concept-cars/vw...
Don’t forget the microbus!

B17NNS

17,959 posts

186 months

Monday 4th March
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garyhun said:
Don’t forget the microbus!
I thought they were going to build that. Fully Charged drove one IIRC.

ducnick

892 posts

182 months

Tuesday 5th March
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How much does it weigh? The original works because it’s light and the mass is over the driven wheels.

PeterGadsby

1,003 posts

102 months

Tuesday 5th March
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Could the "skateboard structure" bring back the old coach-works companies that make bespoke bodies?

I think that would be fabulous, imagine what kinds of different bodies could be created for this. Would be amazing.

- Pete

sr.guiri

267 posts

28 months

Tuesday 5th March
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B17NNS said:
Love to see a modern take on the Karmann Ghia
Me too.

But still with an aircooled flat 4 smile



midenginedcoupe

4,105 posts

71 months

Tuesday 5th March
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Surely an all-electric car using a propshaft to get 4wd is the equivalent of leaf springs in a sports car?

But overall the concept looks great.

smilo996

1,477 posts

109 months

Tuesday 5th March
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Change the shape of the lights, it is not a Beetle and just make it as is.
Nice work VW.

B17NNS

17,959 posts

186 months

Tuesday 5th March
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midenginedcoupe said:
Surely an all-electric car using a propshaft to get 4wd is the equivalent of leaf springs in a sports car?
Yes, four individually controlled motors is the best option for proper off roading.

300bhp/ton

36,057 posts

129 months

Tuesday 5th March
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B17NNS said:
midenginedcoupe said:
Surely an all-electric car using a propshaft to get 4wd is the equivalent of leaf springs in a sports car?
Yes, four individually controlled motors is the best option for proper off roading.
Depends on how it is configured, packaged, priced and intended purpose.

crofty1984

13,071 posts

143 months

Tuesday 5th March
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I like it!

ChawenHalo

63 posts

68 months

Thursday 7th March
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Sorry but VAG always make fantastic almost production concept (remember that Ur Quattro or that little VW roadster) and never ever makes any of them. Pointless clickbaiting from that stbox production company.

midenginedcoupe

4,105 posts

71 months

Thursday 7th March
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300bhp/ton said:
B17NNS said:
midenginedcoupe said:
Surely an all-electric car using a propshaft to get 4wd is the equivalent of leaf springs in a sports car?
Yes, four individually controlled motors is the best option for proper off roading.
Depends on how it is configured, packaged, priced and intended purpose.
Should have expected a fan of American cars to defend a leaf spring analogy wink

300bhp/ton

36,057 posts

129 months

Thursday 7th March
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midenginedcoupe said:
300bhp/ton said:
B17NNS said:
midenginedcoupe said:
Surely an all-electric car using a propshaft to get 4wd is the equivalent of leaf springs in a sports car?
Yes, four individually controlled motors is the best option for proper off roading.
Depends on how it is configured, packaged, priced and intended purpose.
Should have expected a fan of American cars to defend a leaf spring analogy wink
Not sure I follow.

A single motor may weigh less, be more efficient and occupy far less space than 4 individual motors. Making for better packaging, less weight and a smaller vehicle with better range. However it depends on a lot of factors.