RE: Aston Martin Vanquish Vision Concept: Geneva 2019

RE: Aston Martin Vanquish Vision Concept: Geneva 2019

Tuesday 5th March 2019

Aston Martin Vanquish Vision Concept: Geneva 2019

Forget Valkyrie and baby Valkyrie - this is where Aston's mid-engine production car journey begins



Despite the usual flood of Geneva reveals, you might have noticed that the PH homepage is rather Aston-heavy today. That's thanks to what the company is modestly referring to as "an unprecedented show of force" with the world debuts of not only the AM-RB 003 and Lagonda All-Terrain Concept, but this: the Vanquish Vision Concept.

Technically Aston refers to this as its fourth mid-engined creation, following on from the Valkyrie, Valkyrie AMR Pro and newly-announced AM-BB 003. In reality, however, when the new Vanquish enters production in 2021, it will be the firm's first foray into the realm of bonafide mid-engine production cars, and represent a far more significant step for Gaydon's Second Century plans than any of the models which have preceded it.


Whilst those were hypercars, extremely limited in number, incredibly expensive to purchase and restricted to the garages of a select few customers, the Vanquish is intended as a big-selling rival to the likes of the Ferrari F8 Tributo and McLaren 720S. At least Aston Martin hopes it will; standards in the segment have arguably never been higher, so the Vanquish will need more than a few tricks up its sleeve to tempt buyers beyond brand-aficionados to make the switch.

More detailed technical information will be revealed as the car's development programme advances, but Aston has given us two morsels upon which to feed until then. For starters, the new Vanquish will mark a return to the days of six-cylinder Aston Martins, with power coming from a non-hybrid version of the new turbocharged V6 found in the AM-RB 003. That in itself is a huge announcement, one which is sure to ruffle the feathers of those who believe that a modern Aston flagship should have at least eight, if not twelve, cylinders.

Second comes the news that, while the car's styling is clearly highly influenced by its bigger brothers - though, "less technical", intentionally prettier with "more flowing and sensuous forms" - its underpinnings will be significantly different. While the Valkyrie and AM-RB 003 make use of all-carbon fibre construction, the Vanquish will utilise a bespoke bonded aluminium chassis in order to meet the price, production and strength-to-weight targets of the project.


It was developed under the watchful eye of Chief Technical Officer, Max Szwaj, who said: "The Vanquish Vision Concept is the point when the things we have learned during the Aston Martin Valkyrie and AM-RB 003 programmes reach the series production models. Creating a car like this for Aston Martin is a challenge I have relished since joining back in 2017. Although it takes Aston Martin into new territory, it does so with the benefit of hard-won knowledge, ground-breaking ideas and an uncompromising mindset. The full engineering story of this car is yet to be told, but what you see here should tell you this car will not only compete at the highest level, but it will do so in a manner and style unique to Aston Martin."

The Vanquish represents both a break with and return to tradition for Gaydon, then. A six-cylinder motor, powering an Aston Martin looking to beat Ferrari at its own game, sounds like a step back in time. A mid-mounted turbo V6 in a flagship model, on the other hand, is a giant leap into the unknown. Only time will tell how the move will turn out for Aston, but on current form we'd wager it'll result in something very special indeed.







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aazer89

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542 posts

144 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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They all look the same... just different colours....

E65Ross

35,068 posts

212 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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I think that looks fantastic, especially from the rear.

Macboy

739 posts

205 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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I'm shamelessly stealing this from a previous comment a month or two ago, but someone moved from Lotus with Bahar's product plan in their laptop and the team at Gaydon assumed it was a new plan meant for Aston Martin. A raft of near-identical cars coming into a stagnant global sports car market. And the new Lagonda? This could well be the moment that Aston Martin tips over into comedy.

redroadster

1,738 posts

232 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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The only way is up attitude ,wait for Tesla's sports car to blow this lot away on acceleration for 150k ,but I'm genuinely pleased we have our second McLaren clone range of models .

Maldini35

2,913 posts

188 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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Bonded aluminium going up against carbon tubs is punchy for a new car in this sector especially one launching in 2021.

Then again Lotus have made it work brilliantly - all be it at a lower price point.

Look forward to finding out more.



LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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Christ I think it looks amazing and all while putting Ferrari, Lambourghini and McLaren all back in their box.

Really hope it makes AM move forward and into a brave new world.

NJJ

434 posts

80 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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To be featured in the next Bond movie surely? Looking forward to seeing it.

mwstewart

7,596 posts

188 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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Beautiful.

Robert-nszl1

401 posts

88 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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The rear is very Mclarenesque. But overall looks less fussy than a 720S.

This space is getting very busy. There are 48 720Ss for sale on Autotrader at the moment. That strikes me as rather a lot! Am assuming this Aston will be a price point above the Mclaren and F8, but even so it's a bold move. Aston's equity remains under pressure and I can't see that changing given the development costs of these cars. Great in terms of choice but the shareholders may continue to be disappointed, especially if the global economy falters further.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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Ahhh, now I get it!
First time the new Aston look has made sense to me (Valkyrie excepted).
I don't think it works on the Vantage at all - looks cheap and ugly to my eye - but on this... Yes!

simonbamg

767 posts

123 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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Robert-nszl1 said:
The rear is very Mclarenesque. But overall looks less fussy than a 720S.

This space is getting very busy. There are 48 720Ss for sale on Autotrader at the moment. That strikes me as rather a lot! Am assuming this Aston will be a price point above the Mclaren and F8, but even so it's a bold move. Aston's equity remains under pressure and I can't see that changing given the development costs of these cars. Great in terms of choice but the shareholders may continue to be disappointed, especially if the global economy falters further.
your a glass half empty chap aren't you

Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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Macboy said:
I'm shamelessly stealing this from a previous comment a month or two ago, but someone moved from Lotus with Bahar's product plan in their laptop and the team at Gaydon assumed it was a new plan meant for Aston Martin. A raft of near-identical cars coming into a stagnant global sports car market. And the new Lagonda? This could well be the moment that Aston Martin tips over into comedy.
Assuming Geely aren't launching anything major from Hethel at Geneva, they're probably glad to be behind AM and Mclaren right now - both have announced cars right where Lotus want to be. That at least gives the lads from Norfolk a heads up on the competition, and something to aim for.

smile

cookie1600

2,113 posts

161 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Christ I think it looks amazing and all while putting Ferrari, Lambourghini and McLaren all back in their box.

Really hope it makes AM move forward and into a brave new world.
It certainly sticks them right in that mid-engined pack.

I'm pleased to see another British manufacturer taking the fight to the Italians and even potentially challenging McLaren. Now I'm getting worried about which British supercar I'll include in the fantasy lottery win, shopping list. Is it just plain greedy to want a McLaren 720S spider and this?

Maldini35

2,913 posts

188 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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cookie1600 said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Christ I think it looks amazing and all while putting Ferrari, Lambourghini and McLaren all back in their box.

Really hope it makes AM move forward and into a brave new world.
It certainly sticks them right in that mid-engined pack.

I'm pleased to see another British manufacturer taking the fight to the Italians and even potentially challenging McLaren. Now I'm getting worried about which British supercar I'll include in the fantasy lottery win, shopping list. Is it just plain greedy to want a McLaren 720S spider and this?
It’s great isn’t it - a plethora of desirable British supercars on display for the world at Geneva.
Which one to choose? Nice problem to have if you’re in the market.


smilo996

2,783 posts

170 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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So the 003 is the minime and this must be the miniminime.
Like it, looks great, a bit XJR13?
Looks to be going McLaren baiting and good for Aston. Back on it at last.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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Bloody love that.

Just a bit annoyed that it makes my Vantage look like a Golf GTi.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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I’m seeing a lot of Jaguar C-X75 influence there.

indapendentlee

401 posts

99 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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Doesn't look like these concepts/announcements have done much for the share price - anyone with a better understanding of these things care to suggest why that may be?

I'd have thought the promise of a move into two new sectors (mid-engined supercar and junior hypercar) would have given the markets some confidence?

lestiq

705 posts

169 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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The market probably remembers the last time a British manufacturer launched a supercar with a v6 instead of the expected v12/v8.

Hopefully, once some figures start coming out and more importantly we hear the engine, it might improve.

They are brave to use this power unit seeing as most of their clientele, probably aren't that bothered about economy or emissions, so were probably expecting something noisy and atmospheric.

The ford GT should be an indicator that those days are starting to become the past, but you never know!

aazer89

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542 posts

144 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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Biggest issue with this is that it looks too similar to the Valkyrie.
It would look so much better if the Valkyrie wasnt on the scene, its just a mini-me ... albeit a good looking one.