RE: Noble M600: Spotted

Tuesday 19th March

Noble M600: Spotted

A PH Carpool star, and a fantastic supercar to boot - one of the earliest Noble M600s is now up for sale



Ask the average PHer what they'd want from a supercar, and chances are the Noble M600 would tick a lot of the boxes. Miss the involvement of a manual gearbox in modern fast cars? Good, because the Noble is clutch 'n' stick only. Fed up with endlessly selecting driver modes, none of which appears to do much different? Excellent, because the Noble is passively suspended and uses hydraulic power steering; the only mode selection is between 450hp, 550hp and 650hp. Which you're going to notice. And if the contemporary fascination with active safety grates, the M600 will only appeal more - it doesn't even have ABS. How this car behaves is entirely the driver's responsibility, for every mile of every journey; quite possibly wearing and intimidating to those familiar with new supercars, but hopefully immersive, challenging and richly rewarding to those who like to really drive their cars.

It'll come as no surprise to find that the M600 has been very well received on PH, then. When it was first driven in 2011 it was described as "the weapon to end all weapons" and the "ultimate machine for people who think a McLaren is too predictable, a Ferrari 458 a touch too obvious." A follow up in 2016 was similarly effusive: "It's not over-stiff, not an edgy, one-dimensional track warrior, and doesn't need silly speeds to come alive."


But, let's be honest, the Noble exists in a niche within a niche; there aren't many supercars sold, and those actively seeking a manual, reasonably old alternative to the established marques will be an even smaller number. Hence it's a rare car, with numbers made in the dozens rather than the hundreds.

For one of those people, however few that might exist, this M600 must be absolutely perfect. As a Geneva motor show car for Noble, it has some history, plus there's the fact that this is the very one featured in PH Carpool last summer. In case the message didn't get through in that story, it's certainly here in the advert: a hugely dedicated, knowledgeable and passionate owner, one keen to use his car but also look after it properly.


And consider this, for proof of the M600's abilities: this car is only making way for one in a unique spec for this owner. The car is that good, it's being replaced by another. At £165k it's genuinely tough to think of alternatives for the money; all recent Ferraris, Lamborghinis and McLarens have been automatic, while it's difficult to find this sort of power with a manual gearbox unless going for something like a Corvette. A Vantage V12 S manual will be a lovely thing, though much less intense, and a Ford GT (if you can find one) is a much older car. And 100hp less powerful...

It's even affordable as Nobles go, this M600's mileage making it £45,000 cheaper than this one, still languishing on a handful of miles after three years. And we all know that cars are better being driven than stood still; if what's written about them is true, then there's really nothing better for passing the miles than an M600, either. So while it won't have the cachet of similar supercars from the bigger brands, the M600 experience could well make up for it. And there's some history in it for you, too - good luck!


SPECIFICATION - NOBLE M600

Engine: 4,439cc V8 twin-turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 669@6,800rpm (quoted as 'maximum net power')
Torque (lb ft): 604@3,800rpm
MPG: 20.2 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 333g/km
Recorded mileage: 33,000
Year registered: 2011
Price new: N/A
Price now: £164,995

See the original advert here.








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mrclav

Original Poster:

769 posts

163 months

Tuesday 19th March
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One wonders how long it will take for this to sell - in my mind, once the first owner has bought it, the majority of people in the market at this price point would be looking at (more mainstream) alternatives and the people who'd, on this forum at least, claim to want to own one couldn't actually afford it!

I see these cars as very worthy, extremely capable and respect them greatly but at this price point I just can't imagine there'd be many takers; I certainly wouldn't consider one over a Ferrari or McLaren simply because I would want a supercar I could live with, easily, every day - this wouldn't be that car for me.

Vee12V

776 posts

100 months

Tuesday 19th March
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I'v never seen, let alone driven one, but I've always been intrigued by them. What a machine.

saxy

157 posts

64 months

Tuesday 19th March
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I’ve always been intrigued by them but knowing how little choices of service and repair centers, along with the fact how easily it broke for Hammond, I’ll stick to more conventional supercar makers

Shiv_P

1,646 posts

45 months

Tuesday 19th March
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saxy said:
I’ve always been intrigued by them but knowing how little choices of service and repair centers, along with the fact how easily it broke for Hammond, I’ll stick to more conventional supercar makers
I live 15 mins from the factory so I'd happily take one biggrin

Robert-nszl1

353 posts

28 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Clearly a very capable car, and no doubt would be great to drive. Not a great looking car though to my eyes at least, and the interior looks a bit budget. Hard to say if it is priced too strongly, there aren't many of them, but I can't help but agree with the first poster and say my money would probably find a more conventional home.
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mhurley

566 posts

73 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Looks like a kit car

Esceptico

1,609 posts

49 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Problem for this car is that it is niche within a niche within a niche. There are not that many people that can afford to spend £170k on a supercar. Of those that can, not many would take this as their only supercar i.e. as an alternative to a Ferrari or Mclaren. Not all supercar drivers but a lot of them buy to show off and harder to show off with a car that no-one except car obsessives will recognise. Buying privately would make it much more difficult - you might even have to have the money (rather than borrowing on the never never)! Then how do you get rid of it? Sale of these must be really difficult. Much easier with a Ferrari or Mclaren (even if you take a kicking from the dealer at least they will buy it back).

Lastly, although this may be brilliant to drive...it just doesn't look good in my eyes. There are so many other cars at and below that price point that are great looking but also fun to drive.

Gameface

7,999 posts

17 months

Tuesday 19th March
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mhurley said:
Looks like a kit car
There's always one...

BigChiefmuffinAgain

95 posts

38 months

Tuesday 19th March
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You have to applaud Noble for still being alive, but you also have to wonder how much longer they can last.

The current car was an interesting alternative to the 458 but that is now 2 generations old. I suspect they only sell a hand full of cars a year and on that sort of turn over, it doesn't really leave anything to develop a new car, which means the current model will fall further and further behind the field.

There may be a market for the proverbial supercar collector who would have this as their 5th or 6th car to fill the gap of a 3 pedal recent road going exotic, but they are a rare breed...

Gameface

7,999 posts

17 months

Tuesday 19th March
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I have a soft spot for these and have read the owners threads on the car and sided with him against the ill informed/trolls/kit car brigade. It's the second time he's owned it which says something!

However I think the price is strong at that mileage.

The other one linked in article (although LHD) is brand new and has the full clear coat carbon body but is only £40k more.

I hope the seller sees this thread, I'd love to know the spec of his new one.

Edited by Gameface on Tuesday 19th March 08:49

Water Fairy

2,805 posts

95 months

Tuesday 19th March
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I'd choose this everyday of the week over the usual establishment. This car is all about driving and the art/skill required in getting it right. Anyone who can afford this I would imagine could afford to have something else from the 'wrap you up in cotton wool' stable to sit alongside it.

sjc

10,689 posts

210 months

Tuesday 19th March
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saxy said:
I’ve always been intrigued by them but knowing how little choices of service and repair centers, along with the fact how easily it broke for Hammond, I’ll stick to more conventional supercar makers
Do you know why the clutch broke ? It was caused my Hammond apparently dipping the clutch at nigh on 200mph on the high speed run. Of course the Lambo cooked it’s brakes within no laps but that’s ok.
The other manufacturers sent teams out to make sure their cars were ok ( changing their tyres for track work etc) Noble just sent the car.
In the real world though,the more “ conventional” makers won’t give you anywhere near the personal service or back up that these guys are likely to.

Sford

112 posts

90 months

Tuesday 19th March
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People talk of when their numbers coming in they'd buy this Lambo or that Ferrari but for me, this every day of the week. Seen a few over the years and they are a lovely thing.

Cambs_Stuart

434 posts

24 months

Tuesday 19th March
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How many organs do I need to sell?

Fetchez la vache

5,129 posts

154 months

Tuesday 19th March
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If I had the £165k this would be in my garage without a shadow of a doubt.
Potential servicing issues aside, the fact it's not from one of the mainstream makers is a plus, not a minus.

Funnily enough I was thinking of the M600 while reading the volvo thread yesterday and the fact they only seem to make 2l engines... I wonder if someone else had the same thought before writing this article.

GranCab

1,419 posts

86 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Fetchez la vache said:
If I had the £165k this would be in my garage without a shadow of a doubt.
Potential servicing issues aside, the fact it's not from one of the mainstream makers is a plus, not a minus.

Funnily enough I was thinking of the M600 while reading the volvo thread yesterday and the fact they only seem to make 2l engines... I wonder if someone else had the same thought before writing this article.
Not forgetting the engine was built by Yamaha and installed in a few old-shape XC90s by Volvo.

CharlieAlphaMike

302 posts

45 months

Tuesday 19th March
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saxy said:
I’ve always been intrigued by them but knowing how little choices of service and repair centers, along with the fact how easily it broke for Hammond, I’ll stick to more conventional supercar makers
Your local Volvo dealer might be able to help with servicing smile Maybe!

Kevin-sz0nv

190 posts

46 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Wow every credit to the guy buying another I wonder how he fits his cock in his pants with balls that big! (only joking😉) That is a special car but you would have to be very brave to take it on with that mileage and age at that price. On saying that long term this car will appreciate being an old fashioned manual supercar when everything is Hybrid or electric only. But I doubt Noble will exist then so bodywork and some unique to Noble parts will be hard to come by. If it only looked better and had an interior in keeping with the price tag it would be a far better proposition.

jakesmith

3,656 posts

111 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Proper car that.

V10 R8 up to 2015 had a manual gearbox, similar power (if not weight) and is also NASP not turbo. Whilst it is AWD and lots more luxury refinements, it is one of the few supercars where you can have a manual in a car that is only a few years old

jeremyc

17,473 posts

224 months

Tuesday 19th March
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jakesmith said:
Proper car that.

V10 R8 up to 2015 had a manual gearbox, similar power (if not weight) and is also NASP not turbo. Whilst it is AWD and lots more luxury refinements, it is one of the few supercars where you can have a manual in a car that is only a few years old
See also Lamborghini Gallardo, available in rear wheel drive as well. smile