RE: BMW M135i xDrive confirmed with 306hp four-pot

RE: BMW M135i xDrive confirmed with 306hp four-pot

Wednesday 27th March 2019

BMW M135i xDrive confirmed with 306hp four-pot

The M140i will be succeeded by an all-wheel drive AMG A35 rival - with a 2.0-litre motor



Tissues at the ready M140i adorers; BMW has confirmed that its next-generation M-fettled 1 Series will jettison its straight six and use a 2.0-litre four-pot engine instead. The future M135i xDrive’s motor will earn the title of most powerful BMW four with a peak output of 306hp, making it more potent than the VW Golf R and, rather conveniently, identical to the Mercedes-AMG A35. But, as the model name suggests, it’ll drive all four wheels, suggesting the days of a tail happy BMW hatch will close with the M140i Finale Edition.

BMW is promising that its upcoming range-topping 1 Series will have “extremely dynamic handling properties”, however, suggesting it might not turn into a Bavarian take on AMG’s straight-laced A35. M division engineers certainly know how to extract excitement from an all-wheel drive system, although there’s no mention of a lairy, rear-drive mode which features on the M5 and next M3. Perhaps the xDrive hot hatch will offer a rear-biased setting in order to live up the BMW’s claims for dynamic prowess instead.


While the old rear-driven six-pot M140i and its closest predecessors had more power than the upcoming model, the traction advantage and, according to BMW, a more tractable turbocharged engine suggest an M135i xDrive will have better real-world performance. Indeed, the M140i has never been a hot hatch chosen for its outright pace but rather its more traditional powertrain and driveline layout. The two-axle-driven rivals from VW and AMG have more often than not been the quicker point-to-point machines.

Beneath the head of the M135i xDrive’s 2.0-litre engine are new pistons and cod rods, while the motor has also been given a larger turbo. The 1 Series’ electronic stability control has also been completely redeveloped to offer more fun dynamics even when the system’s on. Combined with a significant boost in structural rigidity from the underlying platform, BMW says this’ll all equate to better handling and refinement. The car will also grow in size to give passengers in the back 33mm more legroom and 19mm extra headroom.

The M135i xDrive will be an entirely different beast to the silky, comparably old school M140i, then. We’re expecting big things, of course, and there’s certainly space in the market for a properly playful all-wheel drive hot hatch that can also provide daily duties and remain fairly inconspicuous. So while we’ll all mourn the loss of a rear-driver 1 for years to come, it’s perhaps also exciting to think that the Golf R’s reign might finally be challenged by a lairier German cousin from Bavaria. Don’t you think?




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Court_S

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12,932 posts

177 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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I'm sure it'll be better than the last one (faster, more economical, better grip etc) but I'm glad that I've got one on the way with the six pot. The engine makes it for me and helps it stand out from the Gold R, S3 etc.

richs2891

897 posts

253 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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OK so when is the 2 series been replaced ?
235i with X drive, I would be happy with that !

aeropilot

34,587 posts

227 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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Who writes this crap for PH now....?

OP said:
M division engineers certainly know how to extract excitement from an all-wheel drive system, although there’s no mention of a lairy, rear-drive mode which features on the M5 and next M3.
Well, they don't really, as M-Division have not produced or worked on a transverse engine, fwd layout platform before......and this new 1-Series is based on the UKL2 platform, the same as the 'big' Mini's, the X1's and 2 Series active tourer stuff, and bears zero relationship to any awd M5 or XM series.




Nicholls22

57 posts

162 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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Had to be done in my opinion. The current M1/240i has so much pace, that it could make it hard to justify the extra spend for an M2. Sure the M2 looks better and will show the difference on a track, but would you see it in normal everyday life?

At least with this gap in 'out the box' form, there should be a bigger gap when moving from the confusing 'M Performance' to the 'BMW M' range.

PerfectDark

47 posts

107 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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According to Top Gear the XDrive will only send a maximum of 50% power to the rear. Apparently the M135i / M140i only accounted for 3% of sales too which is odd given the rave reviews and near god-like status these things have thanks to some bloke called Chris Harris, and the USP of having a big engine in a practical body with rear wheel drive.

Thankfully the 2 Series will keep the I6 and RWD formula, but this just sounds like a BMW facsimile of the Golf R / S3 / A35.

Brainpox

4,055 posts

151 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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Nicholls22 said:
Sure the M2 looks better and will show the difference on a track, but would you see it in normal everyday life?
You certainly feel it in the drivers seat biggrin

aeropilot

34,587 posts

227 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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PerfectDark said:
Thankfully the 2 Series will keep the I6 and RWD formula
Yep, M240i (and 2 series Coupe in general) keeps the correct way around engine and drive train biggrin

PerfectDark said:
but this just sounds like a BMW facsimile of the Golf R / S3 / A35.
Exactly what it is.

apm142001

275 posts

89 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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And....the reason for choosing the 1 series over the others is gone.

Hot hatches are so lacking in individuality now you may as well just choose the one with the best finance deal and be done with it.

I always liked that BMW bucked that trend, sad to see them give in.

Advevo

94 posts

164 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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It wil be a boring 4wd drive.

The new A45 s has rwd biased 4wd mode.

McFarnsworth

284 posts

149 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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So now it's exactly the same as everything else on the market. Yay.
At least it'll be easier to tell who buys these for the badge.

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

216 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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Advevo said:
It wil be a boring 4wd drive.

The new A45 s has rwd biased 4wd mode.
You know they've been making/selling an XDrive M135/140 series on the continent for a while, just not here.

I think a lot of people would look at an XDrive M240i if they are priced similarly to what they chuck out in rwd.

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/bmw/2-series/m...

rayyan171

1,294 posts

93 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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So, judging by the way the 1 series AND the 2 series is going, are we going to have a front wheel drive M2 in the future?

aeropilot

34,587 posts

227 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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IanJ9375 said:
You know they've been making/selling an XDrive M135/140 series on the continent for a while, just not here.
That's based on the current outgoing longitudinal engine/rwd platform....... rolleyes



bodhi

10,491 posts

229 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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rayyan171 said:
So, judging by the way the 1 series AND the 2 series is going, are we going to have a front wheel drive M2 in the future?
2 Series Coupe is staying RWD, based on a shrunken 3 Series Platform. The Gran Coupe will be FWD, but doubt the M Division will touch that one.

Greg the Fish

1,410 posts

66 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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Still going to be an ugly little munter!

NicoG

640 posts

208 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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apm142001 said:
And....the reason for choosing the 1 series over the others is gone.

Hot hatches are so lacking in individuality now you may as well just choose the one with the best finance deal and be done with it.

I always liked that BMW bucked that trend, sad to see them give in.
This. Amen.

Shiv_P

2,747 posts

105 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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Shame. Sounds like the only reason to buy a 135i has gone. S3/A45 will/do have better interiors, standard kit etc

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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Advevo said:
It wil be a boring 4wd drive.

The new A45 s has rwd biased 4wd mode.
Usually I would dismiss such a comment, but I know you might know something... Tranverse engine basically has to be front axle directly driven from the gear box, so only option would be similar to the Focus RS, they use (something similar to) the oversped GKN twinster. In such case, this could be interesting (I need the CLA45 estate) biggrin

PS: drifting the A45 on ice (vid launced today) unfortunately doesn't require rear biased awd...

Court_S

Original Poster:

12,932 posts

177 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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PerfectDark said:
According to Top Gear the XDrive will only send a maximum of 50% power to the rear. Apparently the M135i / M140i only accounted for 3% of sales too which is odd given the rave reviews and near god-like status these things have thanks to some bloke called Chris Harris, and the USP of having a big engine in a practical body with rear wheel drive.

Thankfully the 2 Series will keep the I6 and RWD formula, but this just sounds like a BMW facsimile of the Golf R / S3 / A35.

They must have flogged an awful lot of boggo 1 series given the number 135/140's I see knocking about (no doubt helped by the very aggressive discounts).

Totally agree re the lack of differentiation from the Golf R et al. For me the big, six cylinder in a relatively small car was the draw and why I bought the M140. It's far from the prettiest hot hatch, but the drivetrain helps me get over it.

Swole

693 posts

121 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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Perhaps they should focus on the looks of these things. They have gradually improved but on the whole the proportions are all wrong and they are by far ugliest in class. Improved on both 1 Series coupe and then 2-series, but it has always been the 3/4 series' ugly little sibling, that is also a bit lardy.

As for the engine, another bland sounding 4cyl with engineered exhaust pops and up-change farts. Don't get me wrong, I'm not in the market for these kinds of cars, nor do I have any brand alliance, but it's not getting the hairs standing on end, especially with the sheer choice of this type of car on the market.

I don't expect this to do well without a defining, only in class, straight 6 for the enthusiasts, but I am sure it will fly off the shelves for all those hot headed folk with £350pm to burn for 48mths.