RE: Shed of the Week: Ford Fiesta ST

RE: Shed of the Week: Ford Fiesta ST

Friday 19th April 2019

Shed of the Week: Ford Fiesta ST

Massive popularity has typically kept the Fiesta ST from Shed country - until now



Shed is a firm believer in the principle of walking the walk, not just talking the talk. If he went round the place telling you lot to buy old bangers that he wouldn’t touch with a three-condom bargepole, he would never be able to sleep at night. Obviously Mrs Shed’s corpse-revivingly loud snoring means he doesn’t sleep much at night anyway, but it’s a metaphor innit. The thing is, when shopping for his own vehicles, Shed himself rarely ventures out of the SOTW-qualifying ‘£1500 or less’ range.

Anyway, in the course of some light browsing for a new parts-shifting wagon that might also double up as comfy (and cheap to run) everyday transport, he came across an ’09 Mondeo TDCi 140 Zetec estate at £1,495.

Nothing remarkable about that, you might say. Cheap for the year, maybe? Otherwise, meh. Then you see the mileage: 460,000. Knocking on for half a million miles. Looking at the pics, you would never believe it. The only advisories on the January MOT were slight play on one track rod end and one numberplate bulb out. Surely it would be worth buying this magnificent motoring equivalent of Trigger’s broom if only for the pleasure of being able to show people the numbers on the odo and then spin them lots of tales about how you accumulated the distance.


The point of this preamble is to help Ford haters – of which there are many – to believe in the long-term worthiness of what they might perceived as a thrashed and abused Mk6 (or more accurately Mk5 with the 2006 facelift) Fiesta ST at Shed money. We’ve never featured one of these little chaps here, mainly because they’ve always been beyond our £1,500 limit, but now they're coming into range, as this £1,450 example proves.

For those who don't know, the ST used a 150 Mondeo Duratec motor to deliver a 130mph top speed, a 7.8sec 0-60mph time and mixed-driving mpg figures in the low to mid 30s. Its steering was 10 per cent quicker than the standard Fiesta’s. Its bespoke 278mm front discs wore Focus ST170 calipers.

Compared to the standard Fiesta, the (not especially light, at 1,137kg) ST had 45 per cent stiffer front springs and a 38 per cent stiffer twist beam at the back, albeit with unchanged coil spring rates. As a result, the ride on 17-inch 205/40 tyres wasn’t what you’d call plush, but then that wasn’t what the ST was about. It was something you bought if you didn’t fancy a Clio Cup, a Mini Cooper S or a 206 GTI. Unusually perhaps, the Peugeot was the car against which the Ford was benchmarked, maybe because it was a lot easier to beat than the Clio.


In a Top Gear track faceoff with Clarkson driving the ST, Hammond said while driving a Citroen C2 that the Ford as a hot hatch for fat people from the 1980s. On another motoring prog, Tiff Needell didn’t rate the fact that the ST pedals wouldn’t allow him to heel and toe, and he wasn’t the only crit to be less than impressed by the steering. On the other hand, Needell did seem to enjoy the car’s ability to generate untidy lift-off oversteer when the ESP was switched off – and Clarkson did win that race.

There are plenty of tuning possibilities to make the ST a little more Sports Technologies-ish, although you are slightly hamstrung by the fact that this is not a turbocharged engine, so improvements are harder won. A Superchips remap will add around 10hp and 10lb ft of torque for around £250. A decent cold-air induction system will liberate slightly more power for around £300, and a new 60mm throttle body at £450 or so will steady down the standard car’s wobbly idle, which can be aggravating when parking and suchlike.

For bigger money you can fit a full Milltek exhaust for £1,100 or so, or take the power past the 300hp mark by bolting on a Rotrex supercharger – that will be the thick end of £3.5-£4k. In addition to all the above, Ford aftermarket specialists Mountune have a mountain of options for you to survey.


Whether you’re tuning an ST or not, even with Shed’s uplifting story of 460,000-mile Mondeos ringing in your ears, or indeed eyes, you might find it difficult to set aside those niggling concerns about Ford unreliability. It is true that the Mk6 Fiesta does have its issues, just like any other cheap car. But there is plenty of good news about the ST too, like the unstressed robustness of its cam-chain engine. The chains will eventually slacken off and make a din, but you can quickly counteract that by fitting progressively noisier exhausts.

The five-speed close-ratio ST gearboxes didn't flatter the relatively coarse Duratec motor at higher speeds, and they have been known to blow up in fairly spectacular fashion, but there’s no set pattern or expectation on that: you might be lucky or you might not. Brake pipes seem to be made from some kind of baking foil derivative so it’s always worth checking those.

Front seat folding mechanisms of three-door Fiestas from this era are famous for playing up, either because the tilt handle has broken or one of the wires from that handle has snapped. Either way it’s a fiddly thing to fix. Your alternatives are (1) the always-classy molegrip mend, or (2) refusing to let anyone get in the back.


The ads from this particular vendor tend to annoy PHers who never like to read ‘part exchange to clear’ banners over used car pics. In today’s fake nooz times nobody is ever quite sure what’s going on, but the feedback for this outfit is actually pretty good and according to the pics on their website they do appear to have won more than one ‘used car dealer of the year’ award.

Someone might like to have a quick squint at their ad blurbs though. The idea of an ‘integrated sports fog light’ is a bit peculiar. Driving in a sporting manner in foggy conditions sounds like a blinding idea, but not in a good way.

Being charitable, you can understand why dealers in low-value cars have to cover themselves through the small print, what with everybody being an expert and/or a backroom barrister these days. And let’s be fair, for ‘piece of mind’ (ermm) it’s good to know that the absence of an additional warranty policy does not ‘effect your statuary rights’.

Shed once went into the local garden centre to pick up a one-tonne marble Buddha, only to be told that he’d need building regs permission to proceed with his plan of balancing it on a stylish plywood display plinth panel-pinned directly above Mrs Shed’s bedroom door. Damn those statuary rights.

Click here to see the full ad.

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Tin Hat

Original Poster:

1,371 posts

209 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Used, tatty, and price reflects it.

Not bad at all

Butter Face

30,299 posts

160 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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‘Sometimes we have to politely decline dealing with buyers for both parties mutual benefit’

hehe

Robbie1400

30 posts

146 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Nice long MOT....... That should give you "piece" of mind.

Omega1987

38 posts

72 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Personally I'd replace the cam chain and tensioner rather than fit a load exhaust haha.

I fancied at FIesta ST back in the day when I had a British gas Fiesta van but the car felt really heavy when I test drove one, I'm suprised the quoted kerb weight isn't higher to be honest.

rallycross

12,790 posts

237 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Robbie1400 said:
Nice long MOT....... That should give you "piece" of mind.
next years list of advisories might read like war and peas.


Jayho

2,014 posts

170 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Great shed but not for me.

I'd go either with the st170 or a fiesta zetec s before the fiesta st. Same running costs as the st170 but with no real benefit that I can see. St170 looks better and more practical imo. The zetec s ain't a huge slouch in comparison, and the lighter 1.6 engine seems just as eager and won't be as nose heavy as the 2.0

alorotom

11,939 posts

187 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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thats an absolute shed ... almost literally.

its a total mess - missing trim, shonky fit of the later stereo and overall very dog-eared - shocking example and what is strong money


LuS1fer

41,135 posts

245 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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I had an immaculate Mk 6 and would probably still have it if I hadn't backed it into a wall which dented the rear 3/4. I couldn't spare the off road time so took a low px to change into an infinitely superior Mk 7 ST.

The car was never fast with its 150hp but I preferred the weightier steering of the Mk 6. I had to replace the seat tilt handles and cables which, though fiddly wasn't difficult. The main issue was the warning lights when the TPS started playing up and that can be a £400 replacement bill. Still really liked the clean styling and not trying too hard approach.

Mike1990

964 posts

131 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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I loved mine, probably best hot-hatch i’ve owned. The chassis was sublime, just enough power to hustle along a good road without having to worry to much, and good on fuel. 40-42mpg average on my commute to work and back.

Much preferred it to its replacement, a Renaultsport Clio 172. Good but not as good as the press made it out to be. Should have bought a Cup or 182 Trophy instead.







My sisters fella’s just bought one in Frozen White. Looks lovely. Can’t wait to have a drive of one again.

greenarrow

3,592 posts

117 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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rallycross said:
Robbie1400 said:
Nice long MOT....... That should give you "piece" of mind.
next years list of advisories might read like war and peas.
Think Shed has got a bit confused by this one, as the ad suggests, the MOT runs out in May. May 2nd actually which rather takes the shine off things. Looks like its had an oil leak for a while and needs two front bushes. Otherwise seems solid enough.

The wife has had one of these for 4 years. They're good, solid cars. I like driving it. Yes its slower than a Clio 182, but personally I find ours reasonably torquey so in every day driving it feels fast enough. As I said on a previous post about these cars, its got similar performance to the old Golf GTI Mk2 16 valve and no-one complained they were too slow. Obviously things have moved on massively since then, but its nimble and quick enough to have some fun in. I like the fact that you can wring its neck in 2nd and 3rd and not feel you've losing your license about 6 or 7 seconds into the proceedings!

Petrolsmasher

2,452 posts

116 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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I honestly think these are utter st cars sorry to say, ford really dropped the ball.

Not fast at all, handling isent great.

With a few grand its half decent but a swift sport is much more exciting with less power due to it being a bit lighter and the engine is very responsive and revvy aswell.

timrud

364 posts

173 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Ford made a lot of awful cars around this time. The Mondeo and the Fiesta being two of the worst.

Much rather have a Clio or Polo of this era

HardtopManual

2,430 posts

166 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Bit rich of PH to mock a used car salesman's spelling and grammar when you're actual journalists and have had "Thead" of the day on your front page for days.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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300 bhp by bolting on a supercharger... They were never a serious competitor for the Clio, but her indoors loved her ST. Worst thing about them was the lack of a 6th gear.

LuS1fer

41,135 posts

245 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Petrolsmasher said:
I honestly think these are utter st cars sorry to say, ford really dropped the ball.

Not fast at all, handling isent great.

With a few grand its half decent but a swift sport is much more exciting with less power due to it being a bit lighter and the engine is very responsive and revvy aswell.
The handling was pretty good, actually - watch Tiff punt one round the track. The handling also beat the Polo GTI in a German test and we didn't get that.
Even up against a Clio 172, it can hold its own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U9y0mNCWws

The Swift isn't in the same league.

Petrolsmasher

2,452 posts

116 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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LuS1fer said:
Petrolsmasher said:
I honestly think these are utter st cars sorry to say, ford really dropped the ball.

Not fast at all, handling isent great.

With a few grand its half decent but a swift sport is much more exciting with less power due to it being a bit lighter and the engine is very responsive and revvy aswell.
The handling was pretty good, actually - watch Tiff punt one round the track. The handling also beat the Polo GTI in a German test and we didn't get that.
Even up against a Clio 172, it can hold its own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U9y0mNCWws

The Swift isn't in the same league.
how is the swift not in the same league? its a bit lighter, granted 25bhp down but theres not much in it on the road. They are both warm hatches

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Much rather have a Clio 172, the Fiesta just does nothing for me. Although I remember seeing in one either Fast Car or Max Power in around 2005 that made an impression on me for a short while.

itcaptainslow

3,699 posts

136 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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I looked at these when they were new and almost bought one-if it wasn’t for the salesman going back on his word regarding the price then I probably would have.

Like the ST170, they seem to respond well to a couple of modifications to bring out the potential in the engine. The chassis I liked-typical 00’s Ford steering dripping with feel, a “up on its toes” poise when cornering and don’t tell anyone, I quite liked it in white with the blue stripes.

Ended up with a ST170 which is a more mature, rounded car.

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Mike1990 said:
I loved mine, probably best hot-hatch i’ve owned. The chassis was sublime, just enough power to hustle along a good road without having to worry to much, and good on fuel. 40-42mpg average on my commute to work and back.

Much preferred it to its replacement, a Renaultsport Clio 172. Good but not as good as the press made it out to be. Should have bought a Cup or 182 Trophy instead.







My sisters fella’s just bought one in Frozen White. Looks lovely. Can’t wait to have a drive of one again.
Is that 172 cup the replacement ?

Nexus Icon

569 posts

61 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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I've had a few decent hot hatches and, I must admit, I quite liked the looks of these at the time but I never owned one as they seemed a little underpowered even by the standards of the time. If only they'd fitted the ST170 lump, that extra 20 bhp might have made all the difference.

I had a mint 127 cup instead, which was arguably one of the most hateful cars I've ever owned and I couldn't get rid fast enough.