RE: Aston Martin Vantage AMR manual confirmed

RE: Aston Martin Vantage AMR manual confirmed

Friday 26th April 2019

Aston Martin Vantage AMR manual confirmed

Imminently-due sports car will be the first to combine AMG's 4.0 V8 with a three-pedal setup



We like the Aston Martin Vantage with its AMG V8 and eight-speed auto very much, but it’s also true that we’ve been growing increasingly impatient for a manual version to arrive. Thankfully, it seems Gaydon’s engineers are nearing completion of exactly that, and to make things better, it’ll arrive with a fettling from the firm’s most sporting department, AMR – soon, as well, according to a new rendering put out on Twitter.

AMR’s previous projects have all been given bumps in output; the most recent V12 in the AMR Rapide was enhanced by 30hp, so a similar improvement would give the Vantage AMR around 540hp from its twin-turbocharged heart. AMR also has a habit of sharpening handling and knocking off a few kilos of unsprung mass, so overall pace ought to be better - and there should be lime green stripes, too.


Bolting a manual ‘box to the AMG V8 will have been no simple task because it’s never been done by a production car maker before. It means there’ll almost certainly be hardware and software that’s completely bespoke to the manual Vantage, and it’s even plausible that the V8’s delivery will have to have been re-tuned to suit a human-actuated gearbox. But Aston has very good form in this practice; the previous Vantage N430 manual was a wonderful driver’s machine.

Also providing us with plenty of reason to get excited for the new car is the fact the 4.0-litre V8 Vantage already has the same amount of power as the previous-gen’s V12 model, which came with a manual as well. Any boost in performance from AMR’s tuning could therefore conceivably create the most broadly capable manual powertrain to have yet been fitted to a Vantage, which is rather exciting. We’re expecting to find out for real later in the summer.

Naturally, all this Vantage manual talk has us back on the classifieds as we ponder the purchase of a previous one. Anyone got £34k to spare? This one looks rather tasty…



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dazwalsh

Original Poster:

6,095 posts

141 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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That thing is just a couple of slight design tweaks off being absolutely perfect. I'm warming a lot to it since it was first shown.

wab172uk

2,005 posts

227 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Well done AM.

Now give 3 pedals to more models. Hopefully more manufacturers will follow suit.

Cold

15,237 posts

90 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Proof of this particular pudding will be how many get sold instead of the two pedal version. Is there a real demand outside of journos and internet forums?

indapendentlee

401 posts

99 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Fair play to them for doing this for such a tiny market. 5-7% of sales is the business case.

Bobajobbob

1,427 posts

96 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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I have an old shape manual Vantage so happy to see this however I would rather they had spent the money sorting out the front end first. I'd love a manual new vantage but I can't buy one, auto or manual, whilst it looks the way it currently does.

mrbarnett

1,091 posts

93 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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It seems that Aston Martin have been looking to Porsche for ways to keep the manual box alive, namely to fit them to otherwise enhanced models.

It's no good launching the manual on the regular model when regular punters typically choose two pedals anyway. But make a car that's rarer, sharper, and altogether more collectable, and people will flock to the three pedal option; a-la Caymen GT4 and 911 R.

Let's hope it works for AM, too.

David87

6,651 posts

212 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Cold said:
Proof of this particular pudding will be how many get sold instead of the two pedal version. Is there a real demand outside of journos and internet forums?
I would imagine it’s the North American market that’ll have been the one that made a business case for doing this car.

wab172uk

2,005 posts

227 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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mrbarnett said:
It seems that Aston Martin have been looking to Porsche for ways to keep the manual box alive, namely to fit them to otherwise enhanced models.

It's no good launching the manual on the regular model when regular punters typically choose two pedals anyway. But make a car that's rarer, sharper, and altogether more collectable, and people will flock to the three pedal option; a-la Caymen GT4 and 911 R.

Let's hope it works for AM, too.
Yet only Speculators, YouTubers, and the very rich will have any chance of buying one.

That's the problem. The 3 pedal cars will be seen as the `Specials` and yet out of reach of those of us who prefer to swap cogs ourselves. I'd even take a lower powered manual over a more powerful auto box.

CitySlicker

302 posts

93 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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This model just became very interesting!

Hopefully it’s the 6 speed box

GingerMunky

1,166 posts

257 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Would sir prefer the slower manual car?
Yes please, because I choose a sports car so as not to go as fast as possible!

Cue the avalanche of manual is more engaging comments, even though only 1% of F430's were sold as manual. Yawn!

Vocht

1,631 posts

164 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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I wonder if we'll see the Merc AMG range with the same engine getting this box too? A manual GTC could be a lovely thing!

Emilio Largo

582 posts

111 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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wab172uk said:
Yet only Speculators, YouTubers, and the very rich will have any chance of buying one.

That's the problem. The 3 pedal cars will be seen as the `Specials` and yet out of reach of those of us who prefer to swap cogs ourselves. I'd even take a lower powered manual over a more powerful auto box.
Very, very well said, Sir! smash

J2daG1990

1,181 posts

126 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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GingerMunky said:
Would sir prefer the slower manual car?
Yes please, because I choose a sports car so as not to go as fast as possible!

Cue the avalanche of manual is more engaging comments, even though only 1% of F430's were sold as manual. Yawn!
Nothing to do with speed, like you said it's driver engagement. Eventually cars will drive themselves and I know which one i'd have more fun in.

mrbarnett

1,091 posts

93 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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wab172uk said:
mrbarnett said:
It seems that Aston Martin have been looking to Porsche for ways to keep the manual box alive, namely to fit them to otherwise enhanced models.

It's no good launching the manual on the regular model when regular punters typically choose two pedals anyway. But make a car that's rarer, sharper, and altogether more collectable, and people will flock to the three pedal option; a-la Caymen GT4 and 911 R.

Let's hope it works for AM, too.
Yet only Speculators, YouTubers, and the very rich will have any chance of buying one.

That's the problem. The 3 pedal cars will be seen as the `Specials` and yet out of reach of those of us who prefer to swap cogs ourselves. I'd even take a lower powered manual over a more powerful auto box.
You're absolutely right, but I suppose I'd rather there were a small number of manuals than none at all.

Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

194 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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All these saying that only Youtubers etc will buy manual, need to look at Porsche.

How quickly did the GT4/911R sell out?

BlackPrince

1,271 posts

169 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Skylinecrazy said:
All these saying that only Youtubers etc will buy manual, need to look at Porsche.

How quickly did the GT4/911R sell out?
hear hear!

Yes the takeup rate of manual gearboxes in 430s might only have been 1%, as one poster said, but now that there is an absolute dearth of manual sportscar choice, I think the takeup rate would be a lot lot higher. I don't know the official numbers on the manual GT3, but I'd imagine its higher than 1%. If Ferrari offered a manual in any of its cars, I bet they couldn't build enough in today's day and age.

Arsecati

2,303 posts

117 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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GingerMunky said:
Would sir prefer the slower manual car?
Yes please, because I choose a sports car so as not to go as fast as possible!

Cue the avalanche of manual is more engaging comments, even though only 1% of F430's were sold as manual. Yawn!
Well said sir!

Arsecati

2,303 posts

117 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Well, the marketing worked for Porsche I guess, but I've better things to be doing with my hands than constantly removing them from the wheel to twiddle some stick poking up from the floor. My old 944 S2 and 205 GTi - manual no question, but anything from this decade? Suspension, electronics and tyres have moved so far ahead - I want my hands on the wheel with fingertip control of the gears, so I can concentrate more on making the most of it (well, at least TRY to make the most of it: I can't drive for ste!!).

justin220

5,337 posts

204 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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I saw the new Vantage alongside the new DBS the other day, and I know I'll be in the minority here but I actually prefered the Vantage. The proportions just looked better to me. It's funny because in pictures, the DBS looks phenomenal but I wasn't too keen on it in the metal.

Agree with the above comments, I'm not sure really how much they will sell in manual, although it's great there is a choice now.

Buster73

5,058 posts

153 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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I’ve got a manual Vantage N430 , there’s plenty of times when driving I’d rather have the instant gear change through a paddle shift similar to the PDK of a 911.

Often find my fingers going for the non existent paddles on the Aston , that I have on my daily driver.

Driver involvement with a manual ? , I’m not convinced those on here demanding it have the experience of using both in sports cars.

Time and a place for both , but don’t write off a good PDK box.