RE: Aston Martin Vantage AMR arrives - with manual

RE: Aston Martin Vantage AMR arrives - with manual

Wednesday 1st May 2019

Aston Martin Vantage AMR arrives - with manual

The Vantage undergoes the AMR treatment - 95kg out, clutch pedal in



If Aston Martin's upcoming Vantage AMR isn't already on your radar as one of the most eagerly anticipated cars of 2019, then it ought to be. When we put the standard Vantage head-to-head with Porsche's 911 GTS it was a close-run thing. Ultimately, though, Nic concluded that: "Porsche has done a worthier, subtler job of making the underside of its car a little more tactile for the driver. The 911 itself is better chiefly because it is tangibly lighter... to the general enhancement of the experience."

While the Vantage had "never felt so limber", the GTS's weight advantage and superior handling were just enough to tip the scales in its favour. Imagine, then, a Vantage with the AMR treatment previously afforded to the DB11.

In that car Matt found the enhancements to have transformed its character, bequeathing it with: "more weight to the steering and a more immediate response... less lean and pitch once in the bend, meaning you'll chase the throttle sooner on corner exit... traction feels improved from before and, should you breach that, the intervention from the systems is more natural and less intrusive. Throughout a corner, throughout any drive actually, the AMR is a more positive, more confidence inspiring, and more satisfying sports car." Effusive praise indeed.


Now consider that that car lost only 5kg versus its previous iteration, whilst the Vantage AMR announced by Aston today will shed a whopping 95kg. The standard carbon ceramic brakes will have something to do with that, as will other tweaks made during the coupe's transformation, but the majority of the saving comes from the addition of something even better than the weight loss itself - a seven-speed manual gearbox.

Substituting it for the 8-speed automatic not only removes mass, but also makes good on Andy Palmer's long-standing promise that Aston would not abandon the clutch pedal. The new transmission gets a dog-leg first, race car-style, with a double H-pattern setup beyond that, and comes equipped with AMSHIFT technology, allowing for auto-blipped downshifts and full-throttle upshifts. Its inclusion doesn't prevent a 0.3 second deficit to 62mph versus the auto-equipped standard, though. Power is provided by the same AMG-derived 4.0-litre twin-turbo V8 as previously, with outputs unchanged at 510hp and 460hp - but top speed remains 195mph.

No matter, because the AMR's focus will be on delivering improved performance in other, more important, areas than outright speed. Less weight, improved balance, greater feedback and a proper gear lever ought to make for a far more immersive driving experience, hopefully improving on what was already a compelling base model.

That's the good news, now here's the bad. Unlike the DB11 AMR, which replaced the standard V12 DB11 in the series production range, the Vantage AMR is to be a limited-run special, restricted to just 200 examples worldwide. Of those, 59 cars will be specced in 'Vantage 59' livery, celebrating the 60th anniversary of the Aston Martin DBR1's Le Mans victory. The fixed specification features a Stirling Green and Lime exterior paint scheme, with a Dark Knight leather and Alcantara interior featuring AMR signature Lime stripes and stitching.


In one final twist, however, Aston has announced that following the sale of all 200 Vantage AMRs, the rest of the Vantage range will gain the manual transmission as a standalone option from 2020 onwards. Perhaps hold off on that pre-order of a standard car for a few months, then eh?

Speaking of the Vantage AMR, Aston CEO Andy Palmer said, "When I joined this company, customers asked and, as a gearbox engineer and racer, I promised that we would always offer a manual transmission in our line-up. The Vantage AMR not only honours that commitment but sets us apart from our competitors in continuing to offer a three-pedal option." He continued, "With the Vantage AMR, we have created a thoroughly modern sports car that rewards effort and focus from the driver; the antidote to driving a computer game. With the Vantage GTE set to race again at the 24 Hours of Le Mans in June, I hope that those customers who are lucky enough to take ownership of a Vantage 59, will have even more reason to celebrate with their new car".

The Vantage AMR is on sale now from £149,995, with Vantage 59-specced models from £164,995 and deliveries scheduled to begin towards the end of this year. If you can't wait that long, or don't fancy parting with quite that much cash, then there are other alternatives available, though. Both V8 and V12 examples of the previous generation of manual Vantages are available in the classifieds, and offer a similarly robust antidote to any driving simulator.







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Discussion

C.MW

Original Poster:

473 posts

69 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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I think it's safe to assume the changes made during the development of the AMR version will eventially apply to the regular version. It's definitely my pick in its class with the stunning style and well balanced FR layout. With all electronic aids switched off, I'm sure the Vantage would be more natural and predictable on the limit than the rear-heavy 911 and isn't it good to have a car that feels inherently better balanced than one that relies on an active ARB, self-adjusting dampers, rear wheel steering, stability control, etc to feel that way.

Edited by C.MW on Wednesday 1st May 06:23

aston addict

423 posts

158 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Seen a few of these in the flesh and they are pretty arresting, but so heavily dependent on spec. Leave the chavtastic 60yr thing, save the cash and spec a nice colour without black wheels. At least it’s something different, compared to the ubiquitous 911.

And plaudits to Aston for having a manual in the range.

easytiger123

2,595 posts

209 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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I really want to love it but I still don't. The DB11 AMR on the other hand...much want.

V41LEY

2,893 posts

238 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Am I the only one who is completely lost in the fog of AM models, variants and special editions ?

Gus265

264 posts

133 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Love it. But it’s just too expensive.

Lotusgav

122 posts

159 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Definitely one of those cars that looks better in the flesh. Had a 5 minute whizz up the road in a work colleague's car and I'd have it all day over a 911. Just got more character and a v8 and a nicer interior and it's an Aston. With a manual and a sports exhaust I'm in...

If you want a daily, sure get the Porsche, if you want something special get the Aston, all imho...

cookie1600

2,113 posts

161 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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"Power is provided by the same AMG-derived 4.0-litre twin-turbo V8 as previously, with outputs unchanged at 510hp and 460hp"

Has it got switchable power then?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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V41LEY said:
Am I the only one who is completely lost in the fog of AM models, variants and special editions ?
They're not that confusing - they have a regular model and an AMR. There's some limited run specials, much like what other manufacturers produce. I'll admit, it's early in the life cycle to get into limited run cars, but with the AMR it's more than just some trim and colour changes.

The AMR will generally will always be a lighter, more focused version. Sometimes with more power (in this instance not). Chassis dynamics are the main focus of the AMR variants, and with the Vantage, it had a very good start point, so to lose 95kg is actually quite impressive (I expected a modest 35-40kg diet).

As a driver's car, the Vantage was already superb; it's so playful, poised and balanced, while having a sense of occasion and some theatre, that the AMR would only heighten the experience. Add a dog leg manual into the equation, it's almost motoring nirvana for some.

It gets discussed often on the Aston sub-forum, but the 2nd century cars aren't cut from the same cloth as the last generation were. They're perhaps not the ones you fall in love with immediately, but after spending time with them, they begin to make sense, and the performance on offer, with the design language it's wrapped up in, make them really rather good overall.

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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V41LEY said:
Am I the only one who is completely lost in the fog of AM models, variants and special editions ?
no, me too - they make Porsche seem concise and logical - but they had been at; with manual.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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cookie1600 said:
"Power is provided by the same AMG-derived 4.0-litre twin-turbo V8 as previously, with outputs unchanged at 510hp and 460hp"

Has it got switchable power then?
I think that's a typo / red herring, because the engine spec in the Vantage is fixed to 510ps. The lower power output I think is in reference to AMG application, not an Aston one.

Quadcamboy

122 posts

207 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Lbs/ft?

Fetchez la vache

5,572 posts

214 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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So an extra £15k for added lime bits? Seriously?
I was assuming it was just a no-cost delete option to get that crap off...

DJM7691

426 posts

109 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Fetchez la vache said:
So an extra £15k for added lime bits? Seriously?
I was assuming it was just a no-cost delete option to get that crap off...
This is a limited edition model (200 units) hence the premium price. I imagine this covers the standard carbon ceramics (not cheap!!) and other mods to reduce by 95kg.

If you are after just a standard Vantage with a manual box, that will be a no-cost option in the range from next year, so fear not.

J2daG1990

1,181 posts

126 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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DJM7691 said:
This is a limited edition model (200 units) hence the premium price. I imagine this covers the standard carbon ceramics (not cheap!!) and other mods to reduce by 95kg.

If you are after just a standard Vantage with a manual box, that will be a no-cost option in the range from next year, so fear not.
I read the article as the Aston Martin AMR already has the carbon ceramics and weight-saving and is not the same as the original. You are essentially paying an extra £15k for livery and stitching on the interior with the 59 edition.

Harry_523

351 posts

99 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Serious want!

£150K does sound punchy, but 95kg weight loss, and the cost of developing and manual gearbox is some serious investment.

Here's hoping this is a credible GT3 rival

Sandpit Steve

10,031 posts

74 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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aston addict said:
Seen a few of these in the flesh and they are pretty arresting, but so heavily dependent on spec. Leave the chavtastic 60yr thing, save the cash and spec a nice colour without black wheels. At least it’s something different, compared to the ubiquitous 911.

And plaudits to Aston for having a manual in the range.
Yes, well done to Aston and Porsche for keeping three-pedal options available, as most of the mainstream sacrifice them on the altar of emissions regs and 0-60 times.

Dare I suggest that, a few years from now, those few manual cars will be the most desirable of today’s models.

Maldini35

2,913 posts

188 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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I agree with previous poster who said these look better in the flesh.
Having seen a few around and about I've come round to the styling, in fact I think they now look great (so fickle, I know).
They also sound magnificent.
The addition of a manual gearbox just makes them even more attractive but the snot green accents would have to go obviously.
Aston racing green metallic with tobacco dark brown leather inside please.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Fetchez la vache said:
So an extra £15k for added lime bits? Seriously?
I was assuming it was just a no-cost delete option to get that crap off...
I think that's an over simplification of what goes into the AMR.
- Carbon brakes
- 95kg lighter
- Manual transmission
- differential change (no e-diff in the AMR)
- AMR forged lightweight wheels

It's gone on a bigger diet than the Pista did for the 488, which I think is impressive, but some look at it and think it's just some lime essence coloured accents on a standard Vantage. It's a similar recipe to what Porsche, Ferrari and McLaren offer...and nobody questions them...


spikyone

1,451 posts

100 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Looks absolutely stunning, I even like the accents. I saw a black-on-black Vantage in my local supermarket recently and loved that too; it looked like something the US air force would use to avoid radar detection. Aston have a fairly spectacular range right now, in my opinion - a good few of their line-up would be on my lottery-win shopping list.

And even if you wouldn't be seen dead in one of these, there is so much choice out there at the moment. For all the criticism about modern cars becoming less analogue and a bit dull, this must rank as one of the most exciting eras ever for anyone wanting a sports car - there's some genuinely stellar stuff being produced from £20k (MX5) all the way through to ten times that amount. Whilst the rest of the car market gets ever closer to a domestic appliance, cars like this keep me optimistic that there is a future for hardened petrolheads.

Arsecati

2,308 posts

117 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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I've as much interest in a manual one of these as I do in leaf-spring suspension and cross-plys. Absolutely hilarious in my 30 year old Porker and 205 GTi.............. but I want my hands on the wheel and gearshifts at my fingertips in something like this. But each to their own I guess.