RE: Skoda Octavia Estate vRS Challenge: Driven

RE: Skoda Octavia Estate vRS Challenge: Driven

Wednesday 1st May 2019

Skoda Octavia Estate vRS Challenge | UK Review

Can a few, somewhat discreet additions really justify an Octavia priced above £30k? We think so...



You probably won’t be surprised to hear that vRS-badged models account for 20 per cent of Skoda Octavia sales in Britain. In fact, almost one in ten Octavias ever made have come to the UK - and our love affair with the model’s sportiest variant is second only to Germany’s. As far as volume is concerned, it’s a classic example of a well-priced, fast and practical car making eminent sense to the masses. Certainly the manufacturer’s confidence in the model is high. 

This does not mean continued success is guaranteed, of course. Not since Skoda started overtly testing the limit of its desirability. Case in point: the vRS version of the Kodiaq - a generously equipped and capably brisk SUV, but also one wearing a £40k price tag - which turned out to not be a combination universally applauded in the always objective forums. Soft ground then for the introduction of a high-spec vRS Challenge trim level at £30,085; a starting price which makes it just £1,915 shy of the hallowed (and much quicker) Volkswagen Golf R

From a pure performance perspective, things don’t get off to a particular impressive start either, because the range-topper gets no more trouser length than the regular 245 variant – which costs almost two-grand less. Under the bonnet is the same EA888 turbocharged 2.0-litre offering 245hp and 237lb ft of torque, delivering the same 0-62mph time of 6.6 seconds in both six-speed manual or seven-speed DSG forms (it’s a tenth more for the estate).


What the Challenge gains, then, is in the fine print. There are 19-inch wheels in black as standard, Skoda’s VAQ ‘diff’ and DCC adjustable damping is standard fitment, plus, there's a more vocal sports exhaust and you get lots of black trim inside and out, as well as bespoke black vRS badges and parking sensors. Inside, it’s mostly top-spec 245, but those purposeful-looking and hip-hugging electric sports seats are now wrapped in Alcantara and heated, while there’s a leather-wrap for the vRS wheel. In total, Skoda says the added bits would cost a 245 buyer £4,535 in options, but it’s charging only £3,460 more as a nice little send off for the present Octavia generation, which will be replaced in about a year.

Consequently the Challenge is a smart thing to behold, and is certainly no contradictor of the subtle styling approach that the vRS is typically known for. No complaints from the driver’s seat either - or none to do with equipment, at any rate. The seats are standout items now and they are well complimented by the fruiter tone coming from the sports exhaust on start-up. This will inevitably disappear in the Octavia’s well-mannered default setting, but returns when Sport mode is selected - albeit in synthesised tones from the speakers, rather than the exhaust. 

You’ll be wanting Sport regardless because this is where the engine and diff are at their most energetic. For a car that drives its front axle exclusively and can swallow up to 1,740 litres of luggage with its back seats down, the Challenge doesn’t half feel light on its feet. Even on a sunny April morning the front end’s bite is strong and the diff’s ability to juggle torque is impressive - up to a point. Ask too much and the inside driven wheel can quickly over rotate, even when you’re in third gear driving out of a bend, and it doesn’t happen with much warning, so you’re not really able to effectively manage it.


That’s always been true of the vRS, and rather than extracting every last drop of performance, the car encourages you to relish the security and momentum of its torque curve rather than chasing peak power. For this reason, even the best-specced Challenge won’t leave you giggling with excitement - but it will get you from A to B at great pace and with minimal mechanical drama once you learn to work around its quibbles. And when you consider the enormous extent of space behind you, the fact it can do this so well is worthy enough of high praise.

Wind it all back and - as ever - you’ve got a comfortable, effortless and frugal car that, with the DCC set to Comfort, rides perfectly well even on its larger rims and blasts down the motorway without fuss. Relative questions about the model’s specialness are not invalid - overwhelming familiarity with the immediate surroundings doesn’t help - but not once did we internally question the beyond-£30k price tag. The current vRS does most things too capably for it not to feel roughly at eye level with the current crop of almost direct rivals. 

If anything, the car is now limited as much by its powertrain than anything else. If Skoda had successfully argued the case for a 300hp, all-wheel drive version of the Octavia (as Seat did with the Leon Cupra wagon) you’d be looking at the bargain of the decade. Instead, what we’ve got is a fast, comfortable, well-made and highly practical model justifiably breaking through its previous price ceiling by a few PCP quid a week. Credible then, but still ultimately an appeal to the head. Skoda will have to work harder in the next generation if wants to win hearts, too.



SPECIFICATIONS - SKODA OCTAVIA ESTATE VRS 245 CHALLENGE

Engine: 1,984cc four-cyl turbo
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch auto (DSG), front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 245@5,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 273@1,600rpm
0-62mph: 6.7sec
Top speed: 152mph 
Weight: 1,412kg
MPG: 44.1mpg
CO2: 141g/km
Price: £32,370




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Discussion

Gecko1978

Original Poster:

9,708 posts

157 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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this is the car I am most likely to get next though not in challenge trim and the RRP seems optimistic when you look at cars avaloble now with less than 100 miles on the clock. Nice car none the less.

kultsch88

123 posts

166 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Golf is from £36,000 so a heck of a lot more - and that's the hatch

Real cash price for the Octavia is more like £25,000 with discount, equivalent R would still be £30,000+

Not that it matters as these are all PCP/Lease

al_uk

4 posts

59 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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said:
while the DCC adjustable damping is standard fitment as it is in the cheaper 245hp car.
It's a £900 options on the normal vRS 245 isn't it?

Sam Sheehan

71 posts

137 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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al_uk said:
It's a £900 options on the normal vRS 245 isn't it?
Oh yes, good spot. That one skipped my attention - it was standard last time we drove a 245 along with the VAQ diff. Thanks for the tip!

Jonno02

2,246 posts

109 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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kultsch88 said:
Not that it matters as these are all PCP/Lease
And rightly so. Who in their right mind wants to own a mass-produced heavily depreciating asset?

Gecko1978

Original Poster:

9,708 posts

157 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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also as the article alludes to its appeal is its cheaper yet well built and day to day as rapid as you are ever likely to need and comes with a fancy gear box, infotainment, a big boot, some posh looking seats etc.

This is what many people want, to me it's like the 2019 replacement for the WRX

mcelliott

8,662 posts

181 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Stuck a revo stage1 on mine, makes for a pretty quick family load lugger

budgie smuggler

5,384 posts

159 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Have they fixed the calibration on the diff yet?

Robmarriott

2,638 posts

158 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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budgie smuggler said:
Have they fixed the calibration on the diff yet?
You can adjust the settings using VCDS, makes a huge difference and it’s all within factory parameters.

Truckosaurus

11,288 posts

284 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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As the article says, why has there never been a 4wd/300bhp vRS? One can only assume they are scared it would steal Golf GTi sales.

ahenners

597 posts

126 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Jonno02 said:
And rightly so. Who in their right mind wants to own a mass-produced heavily depreciating asset?
What do you think happens when you pay a lease or PCP? You are still covering the depreciation and then some on top generally so the owner can make a few quid profit out of the arrangement. Heavily depreciating stuff often becomes expensive on either option vs lesser depreciating stuff. Neither option is a magic bullet Vs ownership that removes depreciation fully*.

  • With the exception of a few very rare lease deals.

768

13,680 posts

96 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Jonno02 said:
kultsch88 said:
Not that it matters as these are all PCP/Lease
And rightly so. Who in their right mind wants to own a mass-produced heavily depreciating asset?
Someone who doesn't want to pay more to rent it.

Amanitin

421 posts

137 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Jonno02 said:
And rightly so. Who in their right mind wants to own a mass-produced heavily depreciating asset?
so what you're saying is, when you lease instead of buy, somebody else pays for depreciation?
Interesting theory you have there. How can i subscribe to your newsletter?

Rafeabrook

105 posts

129 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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I have had a Lease Red 245 Estate since Dec 2017 on an insane lease deal.

£2k up front and £163 per month inc VAT over 2 years for 12k miles per annum.

Looking at this article, half of the so called 'extra kit' is already on my 245 so it's really just the adjustable ride settings you get extra.

Heated Alcantara Seats, Sporty fake zorst, parkign sensors, 19" black alloys and black badging etc

Looks like they were comparing this model to the standard VRS and not the previous top model, 245.

All said, they summed it up best. It's a head not heart car, which is all I need as I have 2 heart cars to tick that box!

Tintop2

11 posts

75 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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mcelliott said:
Stuck a revo stage1 on mine, makes for a pretty quick family load lugger
Hi Mcelliott

I have been toying with the idea of a revo stage 1 for my diesel vrs estate (2014). My only hesitation has been whether it might negatively impact fuel consumption and also oil consumption (not sure if it is a quirk of my particular car but it does seem to drink more oil than other cars I have had).

What has your experience been with this?
Cheers

Water Fairy

5,503 posts

155 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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768 said:
Jonno02 said:
kultsch88 said:
Not that it matters as these are all PCP/Lease
And rightly so. Who in their right mind wants to own a mass-produced heavily depreciating asset?
Someone who doesn't want to pay more to rent it.
Interesting point this.We are currently paying £370/month on a pcp for a 2 series GranTourer. We are 2 years into the deal with 2 years to go and then obviously the balloon at the end which would need a further loan. All in all I see another 5/6 years of finance before the car is ours outright.

I know how much it would cost right now to buy off the finance company and I can save £100/month simply by getting a loan over the same period mentioned above. It's knowing where that 'sweet spot' is during the finance.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Truckosaurus said:
As the article says, why has there never been a 4wd/300bhp vRS? One can only assume they are scared it would steal Golf GTi sales.
They do a skoda superb with the haldex 4wd golf r engine smile

Truckosaurus

11,288 posts

284 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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CP12 said:
They do a skoda superb with the haldex 4wd golf r engine smile
Indeed. Which makes it even stranger that they don't do an Octavia with it.

budgie smuggler

5,384 posts

159 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Robmarriott said:
You can adjust the settings using VCDS, makes a huge difference and it’s all within factory parameters.
VCDS is great. Shame you need to spend £200 to buy it to sort something that should work anyway, but at least you can sort it out.

nickfrog

21,147 posts

217 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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768 said:
Jonno02 said:
kultsch88 said:
Not that it matters as these are all PCP/Lease
And rightly so. Who in their right mind wants to own a mass-produced heavily depreciating asset?
Someone who doesn't want to pay more to rent it.
It depends. Sometimes you pay less to rent it. In many cases the difference is very small.