RE: BMW M850i xDrive Convertible: Driven

RE: BMW M850i xDrive Convertible: Driven

Friday 17th May 2019

2020 BMW M850i xDrive Convertible | UK Review

We try the 530hp open-top in the UK to find out if it's the real deal - or just a place-holder for the M8



You'll already be familiar with BMW's M850i xDrive formula because we drove it as a coupe last October, and rather liked it. Now though, with summer fast approaching, it's time for its drop-top sibling to shine. Mechanically, the newcomer is much like the tin top; structurally though, the introduction of a folding fabric roof - alongside the prerequisite thickening of the sills to compensate - has made the convertible 125kg heavier.

Despite this weight gain, BMW says it has gotten no slower. An identical 3.7 seconds is claimed to 62mph, its brevity earned by the same marriage of 530hp, 553lb ft of torque twin turbo V8 and standard-fit all-wheel drive. Moreover, with BMW's carbon rich CLAR structure, fewer changes to the car's suspension have been required to counter the shift in strong points - which means that its maker is claiming a McLaren-like similarity in performance whether you buy an 8 Series with a roof or not.

Low speed driving through an Oxfordshire village would, you might think, reveal any obvious defects in the 8 Series convertible's rigidity (I've memories of the i8 Roadster and its creaking carbon tub, for example, on similar routes) but the far larger 8 Series Convertible has no perceivable chassis flex or scuttle rattle, even over the harshest of speed bumps. Pick up the pace and it's the same story; this thing is as stiff as you like - and that inevitably helps with ride, because the car's steel coil suspension setup glides over intrusions with confidence. Any thud you do register is a result not of the architecture, but rather the downside of fitting run-flat equipped 20-inch wheels at each corner.


There's little wind and road noise at normal pace either. Pick up speed and things remain impressively quiet, so much so that we'd hedge the soft top's cabin is quieter than those of most regular coupes and saloons. It's not Rolls-Royce-silent, of course, and there is some audible road noise on coarse surfaces - but mostly it's the bass of the 4.4-litre engine from up front that floods the cabin. In Comfort mode it's an ever-present force which doesn't insist on being loud or brash to compress time and space.

Click into Sport and even Sport Plus, and things don't dramatically change like they do in red-blooded M models. Sure, the V8's now more vocal - gravelly at low revs and thickening to a deeper, more aggressive tone higher up - but you're a far cry from the thunderous belch of an AMG eight. The way BMW's twin-turbo engine pulls, however, is right up there with anything shy of a supercar. It's only 23hp short of the BMW M5, after all, and makes use of the same eight-speed automatic to provide you with lag-less grunt above 2,000rpm. It's rapid, even once rolling, rest assured of that.


As ever though, straight line muscle doesn't necessarily translate into all-court athleticism. With its standard-fit variable steering, there's nothing in the way of feel at any speed or when the car's loaded up. It's easy to place the 8, but your palms are none the wiser about the surface beneath - and your right foot fares no better because the brake pedal is equally deadpan. That said, the car's xDrive hardware and those 245 front, 275 rear wide tyres provide so much mechanical grip that exploring the M850i's limits requires licence-threatening commitment. On a warm spring morning it's not possible to break traction, even at the back, which means you never really get a sense of the xDrive system favouring the rear axle. The front end does respond eagerly, but you're always aware of the convertible's mass as the body pitches and rolls slightly before the dampers step up to the plate.

Still, you can carry serious pace along a B-road, top up or down, and in a way that allows you to take real pleasure in the elasticity of a V8 that only sounds all the better for the open air. It'll feel too disconnected for anyone who prefers to tackle such a section enthusiastically, but that just confirms what the two-tonne kerbweight tells you from the outset: that this is a luxury soft-top grand tourer. Temper your driving accordingly and it feels much more natural; not with the mass-defying physics of the S-Class convertible, perhaps - but big and powerful and old school. In a good way.

It's possible that this outcome is a result of the M850i's position in the 8 Series line-up; with the upcoming M8 - which will also spawn a drop-top model - there's plenty of room for something which takes its comfort levels seriously. That won't make it everyone's cup of tea, of course - but there's still much to like, the engine and gearbox for a start, not to mention BMW's intuitive digital cabin technology and the convertible's purposeful good looks. A pleasant old waft, then really. We can wait for the M8 to blow us away.


SPECIFICATIONS - BMW M850I XDRIVE CONVERTIBLE
Engine:
4,395cc, V8, twin-turbocharged
Power (hp): 530@5500-6000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 553@1,800-4600rpm
0-62mph: 3.7 seconds
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: 2,090kg
MPG: 28.2
CO2: 229g/km
Price: £107,100





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PhilboSE

Original Poster:

4,349 posts

226 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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2,090kg. For a 2+2? No thanks.

Oily76

186 posts

111 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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M5 has got 600hp now, hasn't it?

George Smiley

5,048 posts

81 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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Too much power and zero driver feedback?

No thanks

LHM1979

3 posts

59 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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I have been using an 840d MSport and found the Active Driver Assist dangerous , every time I get in the car it needs to be switched off which gets a more than annoying ! other than that ( and rear leg room ) the car is brilliant

E65Ross

35,049 posts

212 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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PhilboSE said:
2,090kg. For a 2+2? No thanks.
Luxury GT car weighs a lot shock horror.

See also Mercedes S class convertible, Bentley CGTC, Rolls Royce Dawn, DB11 Volante etc.

As the article says, it's not a sports car, it's not trying to be going after something like a Porsche 718 Boxster.

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

127 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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Lovely. Just a little bit out of my budget though biggrin

As an aside, will 2020 be the year where we finally get a car whose exhaust trims are bigger than its tail lamps?

E65Ross

35,049 posts

212 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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Kenny Powers said:
Lovely. Just a little bit out of my budget though biggrin

As an aside, will 2020 be the year where we finally get a car whose exhaust trims are bigger than its tail lamps?
Murcielago?

cerb4.5lee

30,476 posts

180 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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3.7 seconds to 60 is seriously impressive given its weight for me for sure.

E65Ross

35,049 posts

212 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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cerb4.5lee said:
3.7 seconds to 60 is seriously impressive given its weight for me for sure.
It's amazing how far 0-60 times have come in the last 15 years or so. Advances in tyre, gearbox and traction control tech along with engines which can develop peak torque at low rpm have certainly helped. These days an M5 can clock the same 0-60 time as a McLaren F1 which is crazy.

Admittedly, past 100mph there's not much of a contest hehe

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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Nice car but 107k. Rocks in head. It’s a dynamic potatoe compared to many others if it’s ilk.

E65Ross

35,049 posts

212 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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Burwood said:
Nice car but 107k. Rocks in head. It’s a dynamic potatoe compared to many others if it’s ilk.
When did you drive it, and what are you comparing it to?

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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E65Ross said:
Burwood said:
Nice car but 107k. Rocks in head. It’s a dynamic potatoe compared to many others if it’s ilk.
When did you drive it, and what are you comparing it to?
‘Behave Ross wink I’m a big bmw fan. It’s 107k. Erm amg gtr is a better looking car, sounds better is faster. It will be soft, we know it. It’s not an M car.

E65Ross

35,049 posts

212 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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Burwood said:
E65Ross said:
Burwood said:
Nice car but 107k. Rocks in head. It’s a dynamic potatoe compared to many others if it’s ilk.
When did you drive it, and what are you comparing it to?
‘Behave Ross wink I’m a big bmw fan. It’s 107k. Erm amg gtr is a better looking car, sounds better is faster. It will be soft, we know it. It’s not an M car.
So why are you comparing it to an AMG Merc? It's not an AMG GT rival, it's supposed to be nearer S class rival. How does it compare to drive dynamically to an S500 cab?

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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E65Ross said:
Burwood said:
E65Ross said:
Burwood said:
Nice car but 107k. Rocks in head. It’s a dynamic potatoe compared to many others if it’s ilk.
When did you drive it, and what are you comparing it to?
‘Behave Ross wink I’m a big bmw fan. It’s 107k. Erm amg gtr is a better looking car, sounds better is faster. It will be soft, we know it. It’s not an M car.
So why are you comparing it to an AMG Merc? It's not an AMG GT rival, it's supposed to be nearer S class rival. How does it compare to drive dynamically to an S500 cab?
Because it’s the same money as the car I mentioned.

E65Ross

35,049 posts

212 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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Fair enough, and I'm being a bit obtuse here, but people looking at a 320d won't be looking at an MX5 because they cost similar amounts. I appreciate that's a bit of an extreme example but the point is the same. Likewise, someone looking at a Bentley CGT won't likely be looking at a lightweight expensive 2 seater raw sports/supercar.

The 2 back seats in the AMG GT aren't much kop either wink

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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E65Ross said:
Fair enough, and I'm being a bit obtuse here, but people looking at a 320d won't be looking at an MX5 because they cost similar amounts. I appreciate that's a bit of an extreme example but the point is the same. Likewise, someone looking at a Bentley CGT won't likely be looking at a lightweight expensive 2 seater raw sports/supercar.

The 2 back seats in the AMG GT aren't much kop either wink
Ot but the new 3 looks might impressive. Top of the tree. It’s been a long time coming

HighwayStar

4,248 posts

144 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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Burwood said:
E65Ross said:
Burwood said:
E65Ross said:
Burwood said:
Nice car but 107k. Rocks in head. It’s a dynamic potatoe compared to many others if it’s ilk.
When did you drive it, and what are you comparing it to?
‘Behave Ross wink I’m a big bmw fan. It’s 107k. Erm amg gtr is a better looking car, sounds better is faster. It will be soft, we know it. It’s not an M car.
So why are you comparing it to an AMG Merc? It's not an AMG GT rival, it's supposed to be nearer S class rival. How does it compare to drive dynamically to an S500 cab?
Because it’s the same money as the car I mentioned.
laugh jeez... seriously?

E65Ross

35,049 posts

212 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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HighwayStar said:
Burwood said:
E65Ross said:
Burwood said:
E65Ross said:
Burwood said:
Nice car but 107k. Rocks in head. It’s a dynamic potatoe compared to many others if it’s ilk.
When did you drive it, and what are you comparing it to?
‘Behave Ross wink I’m a big bmw fan. It’s 107k. Erm amg gtr is a better looking car, sounds better is faster. It will be soft, we know it. It’s not an M car.
So why are you comparing it to an AMG Merc? It's not an AMG GT rival, it's supposed to be nearer S class rival. How does it compare to drive dynamically to an S500 cab?
Because it’s the same money as the car I mentioned.
laugh jeez... seriously?
Don't you know an Aventador S roadster is a similar price to a Rolls Royce Dawn? That Rolls Royce is such a pudding, I'm not sure why anyone would want one instead of the Lambo Lambo Lambo wink

akashzimzimma

179 posts

77 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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23 bhp short of the OLD F10 M5.
The G30 M5 makes 600bhp, so it's actually a significant 70 bhp difference.
And that's if you rely on quoted figures.
Dyno'd stock M5s have been making over 580 WHP, so bhp can actually be much higher.

mrclav

1,288 posts

223 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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Burwood said:
E65Ross said:
Burwood said:
E65Ross said:
Burwood said:
Nice car but 107k. Rocks in head. It’s a dynamic potatoe compared to many others if it’s ilk.
When did you drive it, and what are you comparing it to?
‘Behave Ross wink I’m a big bmw fan. It’s 107k. Erm amg gtr is a better looking car, sounds better is faster. It will be soft, we know it. It’s not an M car.
So why are you comparing it to an AMG Merc? It's not an AMG GT rival, it's supposed to be nearer S class rival. How does it compare to drive dynamically to an S500 cab?
Because it’s the same money as the car I mentioned.
One car has four seats, the other has two. One has its emphasis on comfort, the other on sporting prowess. How does price factor into it? I like the AMG but to cross-shop against an M850i is a little pointless as it's not an apples to apples comparison!

I currently have a 6-series and will far more likely replace it with an 850 over an AMG, mainly because of familiarity but also because I actually use the rear seats periodically. The AMG wouldn't even get a look-in, for obvious reasons. Oh, and the boot in the 850 is better than the AMG too.