RE: Alpine launches 'intense' 292hp A110S

RE: Alpine launches 'intense' 292hp A110S

Friday 14th June 2019

Alpine launches 'intense' 292hp A110S

New range-topper gets a retuned chassis and styling tweaks to go with increased output



So this was always part of the Alpine playbook. Different versions with "handling and performance characteristics of their own", as the brand's MD puts it. Of course it was. The A110 was built - and therefore costed - to compete with head-on with other premium rear-drive sports cars, which means that quicker and more expensive options are essential. As recent spyshots have shown, Alpine is cooking up all manner of things...

This is not that - but this is where it starts, with an added S on the end. Contained within that consonant is all the stuff that buyers will traditionally fork out more for. Firstly, that output. It represents a 40hp gain over the standard model and is said to be the result of a 0.4 bar increase in turbocharger pressure. Peak torque remains at 236lb ft, but is available over a broader range of engine speed. Alpine claims a more energetic delivery between 5,000 and 7,000rpm - although the claimed 4.4-second 0-62mph sprint is only 0.1 seconds superior to the 252hp version. The seven-speed Getrag dual-clutch 'box is unchanged.


Secondly, chassis. On paper, this is where the bulk of the work has been done. High-speed stability and handling precision are said to be the main objectives, and to that end Alpine has lowered the A110's ride height by 4mm and significantly altered the suspension settings. New coil springs are said to be stiffer by 50 per cent, while the anti-roll bars are firmer by an eyebrow-raising 100 per cent. The dampers and bump stops have been retuned to suit a more rigorous attitude to body control.

Bigger Brembo brakes (already an option on current versions of the A110) are standard, as well as new wheels and tyres, now 215mm at the front and 245mm at the back. A new compound of Michelin Pilot Sport 4 rubber has also been deployed to maximise the S model's mechanical grip, with the electronic stability control system recalibrated for the higher bandwidth. Alpine insists that while the changes are fully intended to deliver a more focused driving character, the car remains a comfortable and usable everyday prospect.

That remains to be seen, of course, but the third new element of the A110S - the styling - we can pass judgement on now. Alpine has made the job easy because remarkably little has changed: most notable are the 'GT Race' alloys and that lower ride height. Otherwise it's a case of flag details on the rearmost pillars in carbon fibre and orange, black Alpine script across the rear, and orange brake calipers - so if you were already a fan of the Alpine's sports car, you're unlikely to baulk at the updated version.


Unless you don't like orange in the cabin that is, because that's what the firm has replaced the blue stitching with. Elsewhere you get Dinamica upholstery for the roof lining, sun visors and door panels - as well as the seats, which are Sabelt products that apparently weigh just 13.1kg apiece. There's a smattering of other trim material changes - some orange - although if you want a carbon fibre finish on the seats or lightweight Fuchs forged alloys or a gloss-finished carbon fibre roof, you'll need to refer to the option list.

Obviously that'll mean piling more onto the list price, which is £58,700. That's a significant hike compared to the (now mid-range) £50,810 Legende trim level and makes the A110S more expensive than the BMW M2 Competition, Audi TT RS and Porsche 718 Cayman S - all of which are more powerful (although not necessarily quicker, thanks to the A110S's elfin 1114kg kerb weight). That's a marginal gain over the standard model, but the manufacturer clearly feels the all-round added value is worth the increase. If that's true, the new version ought to be something special.









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C.MW

Original Poster:

473 posts

69 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Is it a sign that Alpine may follow in the footsteps of Porsche and add S, GTS, GT3, etc variants? That's fine with me but I hope they don't play with options like the Germans do...

Edited by C.MW on Friday 14th June 01:33

blue al

937 posts

159 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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4mm Drop in ride height & coincidentally it weighs more ?
Is this a real engineering achievement, or just marketing speak....for we spent most of the budget on a nice lunch.
Having recently discovered the French are 20% more productive than the brits I'm intrigued to
See how they managed to clock all those long lunch hours up on this ;0)

"On paper, this is where the bulk of the work has been done. High-speed stability and handling precision are said to be the main objectives, and to that end Alpine has lowered the A110's ride height by 4mm"

Or alternatively buy a well used one, with half worn tyres and spend 8k with a well known and respected Nissan tuner instead...
1st world problems

Edited by blue al on Friday 14th June 01:35

Felix79

121 posts

65 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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It's a shame that this small, lightweight car, has no 6-speed manual option, but I would hazard to guess that they will keep it with it's auto (not sure if it's a dual clutch system) as it gives a better 0-60mph and MPG/emission figures.

kett

128 posts

195 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Seems like a lot of dosh for what is tantamount to a re-map. I guess we wait to see whether those suspension revisions deliver on promise, but I think this new package lacks credibility...

CastroSays

182 posts

76 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Still looks like dog 5h1t from the front.

GTEYE

2,094 posts

210 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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That grey colour doesn’t work for me, needs to be French racing blue.

But, the Alpine has real presence on the road, it’s quite different from everything else, and all the better for it.

Would I buy one? Hell no, but hats off to anyone that does.

mooseracer

1,880 posts

170 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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blue al said:
4mm Drop in ride height & coincidentally it weighs more ?
Is this a real engineering achievement, or just marketing speak....for we spent most of the budget on a nice lunch.
Having recently discovered the French are 20% more productive than the brits I'm intrigued to
See how they managed to clock all those long lunch hours up on this ;0)

"On paper, this is where the bulk of the work has been done. High-speed stability and handling precision are said to be the main objectives, and to that end Alpine has lowered the A110's ride height by 4mm"

Or alternatively buy a well used one, with half worn tyres and spend 8k with a well known and respected Nissan tuner instead...
1st world problems

Edited by blue al on Friday 14th June 01:35
Read the sentences after the one you've quoted?

Miserablegit

4,021 posts

109 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Felix79 said:
It's a shame that this small, lightweight car, has no 6-speed manual option, but I would hazard to guess that they will keep it with it's auto (not sure if it's a dual clutch system) as it gives a better 0-60mph and MPG/emission figures.
Today’s reality is that manuals are an increasingly rare choice, for performance and emissions as you say.
It is a dual clutch system and is excellent. The German competitors with a manual option are all too long-geared in order to give economy and performance gains. A manual geared to 84 in second avoids an extra gear change when getting to 60...I’d rather have a seven speed dct in a modern performance car rather than a very long geared manual.
It’s a useful addition to the range but there’s nothing there to tempt current owners to upgrade I would say. I presume the power increase will become available via the dealers and if not there is always Litchfield.
The next version should be interesting


soad

32,882 posts

176 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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CastroSays said:
Still looks like dog 5h1t from the front.
Quite smart, I’d say. Perhaps not in a white.

kultsch88

123 posts

166 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Looks great! Colour and wheels suit it well. I'm sure it will drive very nicely too, but we'll see when the first drives come out. Rather this over German equivalent, although a standard used premier probably better value.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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blue al said:
4mm Drop in ride height & coincidentally it weighs more ?
Is this a real engineering achievement, or just marketing speak....for we spent most of the budget on a nice lunch.
Having recently discovered the French are 20% more productive than the brits I'm intrigued to
See how they managed to clock all those long lunch hours up on this ;0)

"On paper, this is where the bulk of the work has been done. High-speed stability and handling precision are said to be the main objectives, and to that end Alpine has lowered the A110's ride height by 4mm"

Or alternatively buy a well used one, with half worn tyres and spend 8k with a well known and respected Nissan tuner instead...
1st world problems

Edited by blue al on Friday 14th June 01:35
Quite pathetic. If the French are more productive, the British only have themselves to blame.

I think these Alpines are brilliant as has been proved by the press reviews.

can't remember

1,078 posts

128 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Bringing out an upgrade whilst you still have people sat on a waiting/build list for the launch model is a bit ttty in my book, unless you offer to upgrade at cost the early adopters.

Trickytimes

32 posts

188 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Surprised to see they insist on sticking with the seats. I have had mine since August and the seats are incredibly uncomfortable after 30 mins. A friend of mine who also has one reports the same thing as does Autocar. A shame as I really do think it would be entirely useable every day otherwise.

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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While it's no bad thing that they haven't messed with the styling overall something relatively simple like a redesigned exhaust exit would have looked cool and helped to distinguish the higher model. A twin exit affair along the lines of many a Porsche would look ace. On paper it certainly sound like a significant overhaul of the suspension settings, it'll be interesting to see how performs.

Mafffew

2,149 posts

111 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Love the Alpine, but that is quite a steep premium over the previous model. I suppose time will tell if it is all worth it, however I am not convinced.

Miserablegit

4,021 posts

109 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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can't remember said:
Bringing out an upgrade whilst you still have people sat on a waiting/build list for the launch model is a bit ttty in my book, unless you offer to upgrade at cost the early adopters.
This is not the case, however. All Premier Editions have been delivered. People waiting now put orders in for Pure/Legende models which were not the launch model.


Harry_523

351 posts

99 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Definitely not enough change to justify the price hike. Was expecting the Megan trophy engine at least, as someone above says, probably going to launch an RS, RSS, RRSS+ to copy porsche.

Id have a 4c with alfaworks upgrades anyway...

Edited by Harry_523 on Friday 14th June 08:17

springfan62

836 posts

76 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Trickytimes said:
Surprised to see they insist on sticking with the seats. I have had mine since August and the seats are incredibly uncomfortable after 30 mins. A friend of mine who also has one reports the same thing as does Autocar. A shame as I really do think it would be entirely useable every day otherwise.
I am 6' 6" and I find them very comfortable for a 2 hour drive, they are quite narrow though. The Legende seats are intended to be more comfortable for longer journeys.


cerb4.5lee

30,491 posts

180 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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kett said:
Seems like a lot of dosh for what is tantamount to a re-map. I guess we wait to see whether those suspension revisions deliver on promise,
I also think that it seems expensive for what it is over the standard model. I do really like the lighter weight philosophy of these cars a lot though.

nickfrog

21,094 posts

217 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
I think these Alpines are brilliant as has been proved by the press reviews.
Some of the UK and French reviews I have read seem to point towards that consensus indeed. They seem very special to drive what with the low weight and the soft but well controlled suspension that give very detailed feedback through its entire travel. Some of the reviews actually point towards the "exceptional" side of thing so the pricing seems to reflect that.