RE: The Brave Pill | Mercedes SL500 (R230)

RE: The Brave Pill | Mercedes SL500 (R230)

Saturday 22nd June 2019

The Brave Pill | Mercedes SL500 (R230)

The sun's out so let's get the big guns out...



Don't blink for too long or you'll miss the British summer. But it's long overdue arrival gives all of the modest excuse necessary for another Pill debut in the stylish form of this V8-fired Mercedes SL, the first of our offerings to come with a folding hardtop.

While the budget-based choice of an SL500 over the more borkable SL55 AMG might be regarded as lacking some commitment to the cause of automotive risk that Pill celebrates, the SL's magic folding roof still represents a high level of wallet roulette. One capable of throwing up scary-impressive bills when one or more of its many actuators or sensors checks out. Fortunately the vendor of this car has been sure to supply pictures with the hood both raised and lowered, something you'll soon notice that not all putative SL sellers are able to do.

There's plenty else to go wrong, too. The R230 was launched in 2001 as a tech-heavy range topper, but came from an era when Mercedes was keener on debuting snazzy new tech than it was on making sure this delivered the sort of reliability that had previously defined the brand's reputation. By the early 'noughties Merc's build quality was more plastic piggy bank than bank vault.


Our Pill has almost a full set of this tour de farce componentry with the failure prone ABC air suspension - well known for expensive pump check-outs - as well as the electro-hydraulic Sensotronic brakes which were actually lifed to a certain number of cycles and basically commit suicide after this number is exceeded. Other snakes on the board include rust-prone rear arches, most of the electrical system and leaking seals which can flood the boot and lead to the sort of deeper issues that get mechanics sucking through their teeth and thinking of Caribbean holidays. In short, this is definitely not a car to be run on a shoestring. Fortunately, this one doesn't seem to have been.

The R230 also looks like conspicuously good value at the moment, the current bargain of the SL clan. Values of the R107 that was produced between 1971 and 1989 have been accelerating strongly in recent years with genuinely nice ones now well north of £20K. The '89 - '02 R129 has also enjoyed a modest renaissance and prices are now higher than those of comparable R230s. While the R129 is certainly a handsome beast - for my money some of former Merc design boss Bruno Sacco's best work - and is certainly better built, it's nothing like as nice to drive as the R230. An R129 feels bigger and fatter than it actually is, and suffers from noticeable structural wobble. Despite being heavier the R230 feels lighter on its feet, more agile and - oo-er missus - much more rigid over rougher surfaces and in corners.


Not that the R230 is a sportscar; rather a comfortable two-seat tourer with the ability to combine most of the virtues of a coupe with those of a roadster. When it was launched Mercedes admitted that one of the main reasons for the folding roof was the realisation of the number of R129s that were given heavy and cumbersome hardtops for winter use. With the roof raised a R230 is snug and comfortable at proper GT speeds, presuming tired seals aren't starting to whistle too badly. Lowering the top transforms the car's character to that of a relaxed schlepper, a brilliant way to work on a tan while the rest of the world zips past - and our Pill comes with the original clip-in wind deflector that works well to minimise buffeting.

The 500's 'M113' V8 was carried over from the R129 and suits the car's relaxed demeanour, much better than the anaemic V6 of the lesser SL350. While most of the 'eight's simple charm comes from the relatively abundance of low-down torque and the burbling soundtrack when wafting, the V8 can be easily persuaded to turn snarly and serious. A 6.3-second 0-62mph time is hardly a disgrace by modern standards, even if it was nearly two seconds adrift of the one managed by the rocketship SL55. The R230 also got Merc's seven-speed autobox, which is far quicker-reacting and more intuitive than the late R230's five-speeder; a good one should still feel impressively crisp and responsive.


One area this SL will feel old is in its cabin. I drove a similar vintage SL55 for a PH Heroes feature back in 2016 and was surprised to find how low-rent the interior plastics felt by modern standards, but also how worn and creaky the years had turned them. The COMAND satnav system was also seen as a must-have in period, but delivers what is almost certainly heavily outdated guidance with the graphical dexterity of playing Tetris on a black and white Gameboy.

The pertinent question is whether our Pill is the SL to swallow. Summer has brought a flock of R129s to the classifieds and - in what might seem like a break from BP etiquette - this one is not actually the cheapest. But there are several of compelling reasons for its presence here. Firstly what might be the most unblemished MOT history in Pill history, with no advisories for anything other than a predictable appetite for rear tyre wear since 2012 - when the airbag light made a solitary appearance. Secondly the promise of fresh Pirellis, a full service history and recent expenditure including new engine and gearbox mounts. Third, and perhaps most importantly, pictures that suggest the private seller owns both a Hummer H2 and a Range Rover, suggesting they also possess copious experience of more expensive and riskier motoring. Oh, and there's also a gravel drive, which is always guaranteed to get the forum banter flowing.

There is a geographic downside to our Pill's Aberdeenshire location, certainly for PHers who don't live in the north east of Scotland, although it also means ownership could start with the sort of memorable journey the SL should be perfectly suited to. This is the sort of car that puts the 'fun' into 'contingency fund.'


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sidesauce

Original Poster:

2,475 posts

218 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Many on here will disagree but I prefer the looks of the R230 to the R129. Owned a 350 for a while and I agree with the article stating that engine is indeed anemic!

AJDMoss

12 posts

114 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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It is worth mentioning that the 2005 onward cars have the roof seals and fuel tanks issues resolved.

As an SL55 owner with a gooden the bills haven't been horrendous for us.

SFO

5,169 posts

183 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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better to get a later car with the issues sorted or improved .. these had the satnav units without the trim (aluminium or wood) surrounding the left and right of the plastic face of the satnav unit

redroadster

1,738 posts

232 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Think it's one of the best styled modern cars around looks timeless to me ,updated versions never matched it's styling ,I'm interested in buying one but heard horror stories on suspension costs for V8 model but V6 does not sound too good even though it has normal springs ? .

Mat-vhi1h

115 posts

96 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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I own a 350, the ABC suspension was an option on these (inc mine) so they aren’t all springs. I love mine even though you could argue it’s slower but the handling is a lot better than the 500. I’ve had ABC probs and of course if you just throw it at a garage it’ll bite you but if you do your research there are some cheaper repair options for most of the common probs. Also look out for one that’s had the AMG styling kit fitted from factory, to my eyes they look a little better

Edited by Mat-vhi1h on Saturday 22 June 10:40

MrC986

3,491 posts

191 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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My folks have an 02 SL500 that they’ve had for about 14 yrs now (only done 38k miles). It’s a great car though I’m always surprised by how small the interior is given the size of the car. It does sound nice with the V8 “woofle” from the exhaust though they have a trusted specialist service it & the only significant expense has been an ECU locates in the boot that got wet due to a poorly fitted tracker.

howardhughes

1,005 posts

204 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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By the editor ' I drove a similar vintage SL55 for a PH Heroes feature back in 2016 and was surprised to find how low-rent the interior plastics felt by modern standards,'

Completely irrelevant point. Injection moulding and plastics have come a long way since 2002...unfair to compare anything about this car to it's modern equivalent inc. performance.

cerb4.5lee

30,538 posts

180 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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I've just seen one of these about 10 minutes ago with the roof down, it sounded lovely as he pulled away. I've always been a fan of the SL500 for sure.

MickyveloceClassic

372 posts

59 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Great car.

However ageing technology (ABC, SBC) and inherent design flaws (water ingress, exhaust baffles etc) will put them in the shade of earlier and later incarnations.

The 230 chassis marked a dynamic improvement over the 129, which had then been in production for 12 years.

Cheap style though, nonetheless

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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The following will probably be old hat to most readers, but...

Assuming that the audio / nav unit is a standard size, there are useful replacements. Some people might be astonished at the array of modern features these provide (phone integration, Waze, etc.).

Bencolem

1,016 posts

239 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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I have an ‘08 (one of the last with the 5.5ltr V8). I think it’s superb. Only things I’ve had to do is replace the consumers battery and a low beam bulb. I do think the real value is in the ‘07 onwards cars. Greatly improved quality, interior and drivetrain, a lot of car for the money and a lovely drive.

BigBen

11,639 posts

230 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Why is the SL55 more 'borktastic' ? The bits that go wrong are the same as on the 500.

I had a 55 for a good few years and no major problems save a headlight ballast. As others have said there are loads of third party options for the suspension so nothing to be scared of especially as the price the cars are now leaves lots of spare budget for repairs.

I really miss my 55 and would have another apart from it wouldn't pass my never go back rule.

Ben

Plate spinner

17,696 posts

200 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Lovely looking cars.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Another £6k puts you in the much improved facelifted car and that’s where my money would go.

Monkeylegend

26,377 posts

231 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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I love mine and am still waiting for the bork factor to kick in. Mine is only the lowly 350 with standard suspension though.

pwd95

8,383 posts

238 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Monkeylegend said:
I love mine and am still waiting for the bork factor to kick in. Mine is only the lowly 350 with standard suspension though.
Ditto.

Just bought my 3.7 absolutely love it. No balancer shaft issues (later 350) & no hydraulic suspension issues......







clarkmagpie

3,559 posts

195 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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Well my 500 has thrown some whopping bills!
Roof pump and suspension mainly.
Still love it though smile

Great comfy cruiser.
A half decent hot hatch would give it a run at the lights though.
Fast A road overtakes are a breeze though.

I took out a R129 before and it felt old.
Everything about it. Looks, finish, performance.

Gouki

352 posts

184 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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Big annual bills aside (tandem pump x2) my SL55 R230 is my favourite do it all car. When contemplating a long trip, it's always the first choice, hence the starship enterprise mileage and I cannot imagine parting with it.

1. Luggage for two and 10 days around Europe, including a space saver wheel.
2. 400+ mile range from a tank.
3. Ability to raise the car up significantly for road obstacles.
4. Drive 10 hours + in a day and not get tired.
5. Leave lights on by accident, don't worry second battery ensures car starts.
6. Surprisingly good stereo (Bose).
7. Roof down action, with electric wind breaker.
8. Laps Nurburgring slowly but can do a 12.8 at santa pod.
9. Anyone can drive it with ease.
10. The TORQUE!

Other petrolheads friends of mine concur and borrow when possible!

twizellb

2,774 posts

212 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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Great cars.
Just back from a Euro trip in my SL500, 3500mls in 2weeks and can concur that they are terrific cruisers, 70mph feels like 50, 100mph feels like 70, 100mph is between 2500 and 2600rpm so very relaxed and still returning 27-28 to the gallon at 100mph.
Suspension wise the ABC can be fettled at a resonable cost these days, i rebuilt both valve blocks last year and seal kits are on E-bay for less than £60 a block.
Pumps can be rebuilt at a massive saving over the Mercedes replacement.
It was a pleasure to drive the Alps and Garda top down went down to Rimini[avoid] and to Tavulia to visit the Rossi fan club.
Got out of the car last night with the computer showing 30.2mpg for the last run up from Northern France to home.
The command system is old and not really workable, Bose is nice, they have some lovely features to like the Boot case assist, keyless entry and start and mine has the pano roof.
Roof down lovely, Roof up aircon on for the big miles.


Edited by twizellb on Sunday 23 June 04:46

A1VDY

3,575 posts

127 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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Gouki said:
Big annual bills aside (tandem pump x2) my SL55 R230 is my favourite do it all car. When contemplating a long trip, it's always the first choice, hence the starship enterprise mileage and I cannot imagine parting with it.

1. Luggage for two and 10 days around Europe, including a space saver wheel.
2. 400+ mile range from a tank.
3. Ability to raise the car up significantly for road obstacles.
4. Drive 10 hours + in a day and not get tired.
5. Leave lights on by accident, don't worry second battery ensures car starts.
6. Surprisingly good stereo (Bose).
7. Roof down action, with electric wind breaker.
8. Laps Nurburgring slowly but can do a 12.8 at santa pod.
9. Anyone can drive it with ease.
10. The TORQUE!

Other petrolheads friends of mine concur and borrow when possible!
You really don't need a 5litre merc to drive across Europe in. I've just driven to the czech Republic, across to Poland and back to the UK in a new transit and got out of that with no aches or pains. Return journey was done in one hit back to the UK, a fair bit longer than 10hrs at an average of 39mpg.
On many other threads having the 'need' for big power cars to do Europe iis ridiculous..