RE: Shed of the Week | Saab 9-3 'Aero' cabriolet

RE: Shed of the Week | Saab 9-3 'Aero' cabriolet

Friday 5th July 2019

Shed of the Week | Saab 9-3 'Aero' cabriolet

What better Shed for a sunny summer's day than a swift Saab?



When Saab first started putting serious turbo boost into its motors, many a sage journo commented at the time that 200hp was without question the practical upper horsepower limit for front-wheel drive cars. End of.

Eeeh, how things have changed, as Shed's post-mistress commented on a very hot day recently when she accidentally stumbled upon the great man in his workshop, naked and bent spread-eagled over an A35 engine bay.

A bit of an old hippie, Shed's always been one for letting it all hang out. In the hope that it might generate some extra whizz in their love life, he once told Mrs Shed that he was a libertarian. Unfortunately for him, Mrs Shed is not the sharpest tool in the box. In a fit of misplaced jealousy she marched straight round to the local library and smacked the comely assistant upside the head with her wildebeeste handbag. Ever since then Shed has refrained from using words of more than three syllables in her company.


Anyway, if Shed could get away with it he'd happily use this week's Shed for a spot of in-the-buff naturist motoring. He's always been partial to a fast Swede, and particularly a topless one. This remapped 9-3 certainly ticks his box.

Nowadays you young drivers don't have to make sure both of your front wheels are on similar surfaces before you recklessly boot your FWD hot hatch into hyperdrive. If you did that in one of the first turbo Saabs with your right hand front tyre on a wet bit of tarmac and your left-hand front on a dry bit, arm-knotting amounts of torque steer were very much on the menu, alongside the pickled herring.

Those early journos didn't foresee the advances in traction control that, right now, mean a 320hp front-drive Civic is a production reality. Saab probably did foresee those advances, but even though they hadn't arrived by the time the first high-boost Turbos bombed onto the stage, it didn't stop them putting out cars that in poor or changeable conditions could only really be driven quickly and safely (at the same time) by Swedes, or of course Finns. You needed the other sort of ESP - extra-sensory perception - to anticipate and deal with the crude power step. Turbo really meant something back then.


The 9-3 was not warmly received when it went on sale in 1999. Whatever you think about the politics, the B/H slant four petrol motor that the 9-3 inherited from Saabs dating back to 1981 was not only strong enough to run right through to 2003 but also man enough to take big hits from the tuning stick. This car is claimed to be putting out 270hp. We won't bore you with the details of how it achieves that because the vendor is happy to do that in his ad, but a recently fitted recon turbo plus a Stage 3 hop-up from the highly respected German engine tuning and suspension firm Hirsch are bullet points worth highlighting.
Hirsch upgrades were/are expensive, but they were good. Shed seems to remember that they were an official part of the Saab offering and therefore didn't invalidate your warranty. Last of the line performance 9-3s like the Turbo X 9-3 effectively had Hirsch upgrades thrown in.

It's not so much about power with remapped Saabs as it is about lag reduction and torque curve en-fattening. A Stage 3 with the correct downpipe should deliver getting on for 380Nm, or around 280lb ft. That will get you down the road pretty smartly almost irrespective of which of the intermediate gears you're in, as long as the tacho has 2000rpm or more on it. The other good thing about even quite strong retunes on already fast Saabs is that they don't seem to have much effect on the fuel consumption.

It's also cheering to see that the vendor hasn't neglected the handling side of the equation. 270hp would be a bridge too far on a stock chassis, so the work done on this one might mean that the allegations of a handling character bypass that are normally levelled at this model can be set aside. The seller's reassurances about sludging, or the lack of it, make good reading too. The ad has a nice oily whiff of marque and model knowledge about it.


You might be the sort who wonders why this car's factory turbo failed. Shed on the other hand is the sort who likes to see a new(ish) turbo on the service history, paid for by somebody else. The 5-speed manual is presumably original, which is a pity in one way as it was never much cop to use, but at least the mileage is low so hopefully there's more life in it yet.

Generally speaking Shed reckons this car will get you about the place in a very pleasing manner. Shame about the cyclist hitting the front wing and screen, but there are plenty of other cyclists who haven't hit it. No, we don't know what's means by that, either.

The car was MOT'd last month, with the only advisory being a bit of edge wear on the offside front tyre, acceptable enough in such a poky car. You can never be 100 per cent sure but the history does seem to indicate a car that's had whatever it's needed, whenever it's needed it. Some structural corrosion in the nearside rear was picked up and addressed in September 2017. Shed doesn't want to tell you your business, but prospective buyers might want to check the offside rear area.


Don't go expecting old-school Saab quality on the inside, especially in this car which appears to have a cigar burn on the passenger seat, or shake-free driving on a bumpy road with the top down. If it's rigidity you're after, look elsewhere (but not between Shed's legs when he's bent naked over an A35).

Which takes us back to the opening anecdote, and a real headline about a drugs bust that Shed saw in a newspaper the other day. 'Dealer had crack in buttocks', it said. Well, it made Shed laugh anyway.

Here's the ad.





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Discussion

Tin Hat

Original Poster:

1,371 posts

209 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Styling still looks fresh, great shed!

Cambs_Stuart

2,847 posts

84 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Good advert and a really nice shed. Looks just the job for the summer.

nicfaz

430 posts

230 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Great shed. These things are quick in a straight line (think Renaultsport Megane), though corners might be more challenging!

Recon turbo is a worry because you’re at the mercy of whoever did the recon. Also polybushing is a worry because it will have ruined what little NVH prevention the car had in the first place. But for £1300? Great fun.

redroadster

1,735 posts

232 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Worst car I ever drove over an uneven bumpy rd ,then I bought the next version it was far better and I think has also aged v well .

mrpenks

368 posts

155 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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I had a non-turbo version for 6 months. It handled like a shopping trolley and torque steered everywhere. God only knows what this will handle like.
It also felt cheap and nasty inside - the GM cost cutting could be felt everywhere.
Not a car I remember fondly.

cookie1600

2,109 posts

161 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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I prefer the later 9-3SS convertibles, but this looks to have had all the main issues sorted and the subframe brace will almost eliminate the scuttle shake that these were known for. Certainly worth a punt for the Summer, for the little money being asked for it.

Marcodude

52 posts

126 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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I worked as an apprentice at Saab in 2002.

I remember the Dealer Principle admitting that the convertible was a terrible drive. I think he mentioned something about SAAB basically just chopped the roof and had not made the necessary structural changes.

I had few dealings with this version thankfully...the next version was a much better car.

Cupra Black

3,029 posts

218 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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I had a Coupe Aero HOT 4 speed Auto.

Understeered for England, great in a straight line and had lovely seats.

J4CKO

41,450 posts

200 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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I had an LPT hatch in the same colour and I really did like that car, the engine was fantastic and felt way stronger than 150 bhp, the chassis however was pretty dire, it did the job and on fairly balloon like tyres it was comfy but it was a bit wobbly.

I cant imagine firmer suspension, lopping the roof off and giving it another 100 plus bhp has helped a great deal in the handling department.

Best to think that they still look good, has a good turn of (straight line) speed and is bargain basement money. Its nice you can get something fairly interesting for that kind of money.

Get the little bits done, and dont get carried away with the cheques the engine writes as the rest wont cash them


Mike 83

50 posts

60 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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I had one of these in 2005 to 2007 I put tsw 18 sepangs on it a chrome grill and those moody looking eyebrows I thought it looked great but I was only 22

f1nn

2,692 posts

192 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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I ran a coupe version of the same car, same year and colour, in 2008 for a few months, I paid a grand for that then.

Dynamically the worst car I’ve ever driven, comically bad.

I can’t imagine cutting the roof off, giving it more power and less compliant suspension will have improved it.

Turbobanana

6,228 posts

201 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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As the long term owner of an original ("Classic") 900 Convertible, I should hate this.

But..., over time, these have grown on the purists and offer excellent value. Yes, you'll get scuttle shake but nothing like as bad as mine. Yes. you'll get turbo lag but that's just how they are, sir.

The worst thing is probably the torque steer, because these have transverse engines whereas the older ones had longitudinal, so equal length driveshafts - something not mentioned by Shed in the article.

For the money this is a fantastic summer smoke, in a good colour combination too.

John.Taylor

55 posts

180 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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I'm sure that I've read in the past that this generation of Saab 9-3 are basically a Vauxhall Cavalier convertible underneath, hence the comically bad handling.

KTF

9,802 posts

150 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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A shoe box with the lid off has more torsional rigidity than this over a bumpy road. Still, it looks nice and has aged well.

Turbobanana

6,228 posts

201 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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John.Taylor said:
I'm sure that I've read in the past that this generation of Saab 9-3 are basically a Vauxhall Cavalier convertible underneath, hence the comically bad handling.
Almost.

GM bought a majority stake in Saab in the early '90s and removed almost all of the "Saabness" that made the marque what it was. Engines sort of carried over (in that they didn't use anybody else's, except the diesels which were GM's own) but the chassis became far more generic and, yes, did share much with the Vectra.

Don't think of this as a hot-hatch baiting supercar: consider it a swift summer funmobile and enjoy while the sun shines.

Damien-dplui

2 posts

64 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Being a bit of a SAAB geek needed to point out this car is a SE not the HOT Aero model, seller refers to it being Aero spec.

Very similar just didnt get the sport seats, 205BHP engine as standard and had normal suspension (I think)

Should be a blast though with the engine and suspension upgrades


waftycranker

223 posts

60 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Perfect summer shed.

BricktopST205

894 posts

134 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Turbobanana said:
Almost.

GM bought a majority stake in Saab in the early '90s and removed almost all of the "Saabness" that made the marque what it was. Engines sort of carried over (in that they didn't use anybody else's, except the diesels which were GM's own) but the chassis became far more generic and, yes, did share much with the Vectra.

Don't think of this as a hot-hatch baiting supercar: consider it a swift summer funmobile and enjoy while the sun shines.
Saab have never been the best dynamically but as with everything can be made to handle with money chucked at them. There are plenty of braces and kits available to make them less floppy. With a remap these will do 250BHP and with some premium tyres will be more than adequate as a cheap family summer car. Saabs strength was always its ECU and engine. Saab did do a lot to try and rectify the chassis underpinnings it was given but when you start with a bad base there is only so much you can do.

Greg the Fish

1,410 posts

66 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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My mum had one and absolutely loved it. Looked superb in silver.

As echoed above, was a terrible steer though. Scuttle shake? Hell yeah!

For 4 up, cruising with the wind in your hair for £1300 what's not to like.

Shuthan_S5

256 posts

129 months

Friday 5th July 2019
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Had one a few years ago, was sort of a summer purchase and my first convertible. It was in the same blue and a 2001 model but not an Aero.

I did like the looks of the thing, very comfortable seats, and it was pretty quick. I didn’t like the chassis flex, it was worse when you went through a pot holed road which the UK pretty much is, needed some mechanical TLC as it made a Loud whirring noise on start up for a few minutes and taking it around a corner at some speed was interesting. Once summer was over, I looked to sell it and with the buyer coming along, trying the hood and that decided to give up on that particular moment. Anyone buying these, get a steering clamp as the bulkhead can crack, most probably have by now though for those who don’t know about the issue.

I tried to get the car serviced but at the time, only Saab specialists could do it and they charged insane prices, they probably thought how Saab owners would pay to keep those cars on the road they can charge what they like.

Would I have another? No but I do like SAAB in general, understated cars.



Edited by Shuthan_S5 on Friday 5th July 09:25