RE: Renaultsport Clio 182 | PH Fleet

RE: Renaultsport Clio 182 | PH Fleet

Friday 19th July 2019

Renaultsport Clio 182 | PH Fleet

A dented bonnet prompts Sam's search for a lighter replacement



It was all going so well, until last week. While a lack of reports might have suggested otherwise, in the four months that have passed since the last PH Fleet update, life for our resident 182 had been rather good. The Clio was living the life of a weekend toy, being started up regularly on sunny Sundays for a blast into the Kent countryside, acting as a welcome naturally aspirated palate cleanser to all the turbocharged new stuff. But last week, someone with a tow bar-wearing SUV or van decided that the Racing Blue Clio waiting patiently on a south London street for its next jaunt was too straight. A golf ball-sized dent and accompanying crease were promptly pressed into its bonnet to put matters right. Great.

Now that the anger and frustration of this anonymous gift has subsided - following a long drive to remind myself why I love this thing so much, I should add - thoughts have turned to fixing it. It seems that unless I can track down a wizard to repair this dent properly, it's a replacement bonnet job. Prices for used bonnets are not too bad (£50-70 seems the average), as there are plenty around because the part is identical on all Mk2 Clios. But I must admit that I'm sad a 15-year-old car with a life lived partially on track will no longer be wearing all of its original Dieppe-finished panels.


In fact, for that very reason, I've decided not to simply replace the part but instead upgrade; that way the unoriginalness of the bonnet will feel less criminal. The dream upgrade bonnet is, unsurprisingly, a carbon fibre one. Since 182s have long been used in competition the world over, there are several manufacturers of carbon parts, which offer about a 75 per cent weight saving over the standard circa 12kg bonnet and should help to edge weight distribution rearwards to improve the balance. Heck, with such a shift I'd consider relocating the battery to the boot as well, to pull more mass off the nose.

However, spending £800 on a bonnet for a car worth less than three times that seems a little far-fetched, particularly when it's not exactly a featherweight track machine in the first place, what with its original air-con hardware and panel soundproofing still on board. Thankfully, there does exist a slightly less exotic but barely less effective method of lightweighting: a fibreglass bonnet. One of the most renowned FG panel makers for Renaults is APM Motorsport, which produces the part to order for £215, which seems like a fair deal given the 4.5kg claimed weight for the part, equating to a not insignificant 60 per cent reduction on standard.


The quality of the part is supposed to be excellent according to the internet, requiring only paint because APM supplies the inner bracing and threaded inserts for the hinge, as well as the bonnet catch fixings and a coat of primer too. So to say I'm tempted would be an understatement; I'm waiting until payday before I decide whether to go ahead with it but am fully expecting the Clio to be lighter on its nose come mid-August. Thing is, my newfound weight saving addiction might extend further back into its body because while perusing the APM website I realised the company also makes fibre glass doors - and they offer an even more substantial reduction.

Each fibreglass door weighs 4.3kg. Four point three. That's a saving of about 25kg per side, meaning you're effectively removing the weight of a small person from the body - and in the case of my car, very possibly pulling the total mass below the one tonne mark. Don't believe me? The 182 weighs 1,090kg as standard, but this one has considerably lighter bucket seats up front (they've saved around 35kg alone), a deleted rear bench and slightly lighter Speedline Turini wheels, not to mention the considerably slimmer stainless steel Yozzasport exhaust and much simpler K-Tec intake system under the bonnet. The prospect of a sub-tonne 182 is tantalising to say the least, because with a rolling road verified 186hp, small changes in weight do honestly make noticeable differences to the way this 182 pulls and stops.


But, let's be honest, fibreglass doors on a road car without a roll cage is probably (or most definitely) silly. I daren't even consider what would happen should they take a direct impact; they're clearly not designed with Euro NCAP in mind but rather for cars that feature a full, FIA-certified cage. As much as I occasionally dream of one day turning this car into a 182 Clio Cup racer-inspired track machine, in reality, I think it would be far smarter to keep it in this state of part-road, part-track usability; that way I would continue to use it regularly, which is the most important thing. So, the doors will remain standard and the Clio will not edge below a tonne. But it will, if all goes to plan, have a nose job in the coming weeks - all thanks to one clumsy driver.


FACT SHEET
Car:
2004 Renault Clio Renaultsport 182
Run by: Sam Sheehan
Bought: May 2011
Mileage at purchase: 74,457
Mileage now: 127,300
Last month at a glance: A dented bonnet inspires further weight saving for our Clio

Previous reports:
A Clio joins the fleet
The wheel refurb
Back on track
PH Sporting Tour
A sort-of breakdown
Donington dreaming



Author
Discussion

V8 FOU

Original Poster:

2,973 posts

147 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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Save c10kg by fitting a lithium battery. Cheap way of doing it and no need for relocation.

thelostboy

4,569 posts

225 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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My Trophy has a dent in the bonnet. Well, on every panel really.

Sounds good on paper but can't believe you get OEM fit, especially as the parts you mention are clearly for competition use where decent fit is absolute last on the priority list.

Sam Sheehan

71 posts

137 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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V8 FOU said:
Save c10kg by fitting a lithium battery. Cheap way of doing it and no need for relocation.
That's a good idea, I'm expecting the current battery to give up soon so that would be a smart replacement

thelostboy said:
My Trophy has a dent in the bonnet. Well, on every panel really.

Sounds good on paper but can't believe you get OEM fit, especially as the parts you mention are clearly for competition use where decent fit is absolute last on the priority list.
I thought the same, but it seems to have great reviews - admittedly from people with track cars. The other option is to get a standard bonnet's inner skin removed, but I'd be surprised if that takes off much weight.

A dented Trophy is better than no Trophy. Very jealous!

LordHaveMurci

12,042 posts

169 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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Despite having my 172 Cup for over 9yrs I'd forgotton just how light they are!

Amazed the bonnet is that heavy, does the 182 have the same alloy bonnet as the 172 Cup?

Maldini35

2,913 posts

188 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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The bonnet is surprisingly heavy on my 172 Cup.
I swapped it on my race car for a fibreglass job which is much lighter but the fit is pretty poor. OEM definitely looks better for a road car I reckon.

jayxx83

504 posts

196 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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I remember fitting a carbon bonnet to my black gold 182 back in 2006. Made a noticeable difference to left right transitions. The Thing was driven so hard and to this day after driving various Ferrari’s, Porsche’s and other sports cars to their limits, the 182 will remain In my memory as one of the best cars ever.

MiseryStreak

2,929 posts

207 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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This is interesting, my 172 Cup has a dented bonnet and a creased driver’s door. Rather than paying to have these filled and sanded prior to a respray, replacing with GRP items would work nicely. It’s 1,021 kg as standard so this would make it around 960 kg quite economically. That’s not much more than a 205 GTi and less than a Williams.

I also need to get some decent seats in there. The Cup ones are rubbish and probably fairly heavy.

Robmarriott

2,638 posts

158 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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When I got it my current 182 was covered in dents and a PDR guy did the whole car but wouldn’t touch the bonnet because it would have meant separating the inner skin from the outer. Frustrates the hell out of me!

Regarding weight, bear in mind relocating the battery means more (thick) cable, so the weight loss is less the further back you go, mine is behind the passenger seat.

Are you aiming for 1000kg with driver or without?