RE: Seat Leon Cupra R ST ABT | Driven

RE: Seat Leon Cupra R ST ABT | Driven

Monday 29th July 2019

2020 Seat Leon Cupra R ST ABT | UK Review

ABT's attentions have delivered a 350hp all-wheel-drive wagon. Is it as good as it sounds?



You may recall that we drove the limited-edition Cupra R ST back in the spring. Brisk, talented and likeable was the verdict, even if we baulked at the £37,975 asking price. That car didn't feature the ABT tuning pack though, a modestly priced upgrade of the ECU and exhaust system which brings about 350hp and 325lb ft of torque. This one does, and it's safe to say that the warrantied extraction of an additional 50hp and 30lb ft qualifies as a virtual no-brainer tick.

That's despite the fact that (as is standard with these things) the ABT badge on the boot lid comes with another sticker, this one applied to the inside of the fuel filler cap which makes it clear that 98 and not 95 RON is now the ST's drink of choice. You'll have to make your peace with that, obviously - although we're willing to bet that anyone already minded to shell out for the most expensive Leon available is probably not the sort to fill it with lesser grade petrol in the first place.

Either way you can expect - in the daily grind we optimistically term 'everyday driving' - very little difference in actual fuel consumption. By and large that's because the software tweak seems to have mostly left the throttle map alone, certainly in the 'Comfort' drive setting at any rate, which means that middling inputs are still met with the sort of unexceptional response that clearly has one eye fixed on halfway respectable gas mileage.


In the long run the compromise is understandable; probably welcome. But it does mean that ABT's fettling is not the sort to grab you by the lapels the second you turn the key. What you get instead, somewhat predictably given the amount of work actually done, is a moderate enhancement of the Cupra's familiar strengths. Which means that once you've prodded past the throttle's are-you-sure phase (or slotted the gear lever into its slightly hyperactive S mode) there's a perceptible uplift in the EA888's already generous mid-range - delivering the sort of turbo-induced, wind-in-the-sails pay-off that makes going faster in the real-world so much easier.

This has the likeable effect of making the Cupra R seem livelier when you're only partway invested in what's actually happening. Step up your involvement - typically by selecting the gear ratios yourself with the engine in 'Cupra' mode - and the wagon doubles down on its first impression. Third and fourth, hardly slouches in standard format, now feel like they possess fairly senior B-road clout. Naturally it all gets a bit subjective with no baseline on hand, but the additional yield at higher engine speeds seems fairly unequivocal - ditto the enthusiasm for getting there. In its element, the breathed-on Leon feels properly quick.

More importantly, it feels better, too. Matt addressed the R's chassis overhaul the last time around (essentially new uprights in the front suspension assembly, wider tracks and additional camber all round, and recalibrated adaptive dampers) and the result is no less impressive in the UK. In its previous incarnation the Cupra-badged estate ranked as competent in an uptight sort of way, but not much else. Now there is a genuine sense of Golf R-style poise to its broader stance, armed as it is with a leaner turn-in and a chassis better able to manage deflections under load.


Granted, you don't sit back and wonder at the cohesiveness of it all as you do in the current Honda Civic Type R - the Leon's steering is still a little on the detached side and ultimately there's a limit to how much infantile fun you can have - but generally speaking it corners neutrally and well, enjoys a surfeit of grip and feels entirely suited to its uprated output.

In short, it's the best Leon you can buy. Which is as it should be because with the £500 ABT pack fitted the Cupra R costs £38,475 in the UK. But look at it this way, you can't configure a Golf R wagon anymore - and the Octavia vRS Estate or new Ford Focus ST are lesser powered kettles of fish. It would be an overstatement to suggest that Seat has delivered a cut-price alternative to the Audi RS3 Sportback or Mercedes-AMG A45 because they remain comfortably in the league above, and the Megane Trophy or Type R are more interesting to drive.

But somewhere in between all that lot the 350hp ST offers a usability bandwidth not really found anywhere else. Which means that arguably its pricing isn't too far wide of the mark, not for something limited in number anyway. Also, leaving aside the mildly silly wheels and copper-coloured 'R' extras, it's an unimpeachably good fast estate at heart. And who doesn't love them?


SPECIFICATION - SEAT LEON CUPRA R ST ABT

Engine: 1,984cc, four-cyl turbo
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch automatic, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 350@5,500-6,400rpm
Torque (lb ft): 325@2,000-5,200rpm
0-62mph: 4.7 seconds
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: 1,545kg ('in running condition with driver')
MPG: 39.2 (NEDC)
CO2: 164g/km
Price: £38,475









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pb8g09

Original Poster:

2,327 posts

69 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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Keep the gold wheels, other than that, I like

ZX10R NIN

27,574 posts

125 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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I like it & wouldn't change a thing but it wouldn't be seeing 38k of my money.

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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Why can’t you configure a Golf R wagon anymore? It’s still on the VW website...

rix

2,780 posts

190 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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I assume this is more than a £500 addition aftermarket? Anyone know if the ‘280’ remaps to the same output as the 300 or are there hardware changes? I have a 280 fwd manual ST and I find it a whole lot of fun and although even that can struggle to put the power down, more is still tempting!

glasso

23 posts

82 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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one of the better looking fast estates currently out there

ahenners

597 posts

126 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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These look like a great daily all rounder. That price is a bit of a problem though.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Looks decent enough but why spoil it with all the gold everywhere? Is it specifically targetted to Middle Eastern customers? Gold on grey looks naff.

AJB88

12,384 posts

171 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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rix said:
I assume this is more than a £500 addition aftermarket? Anyone know if the ‘280’ remaps to the same output as the 300 or are there hardware changes? I have a 280 fwd manual ST and I find it a whole lot of fun and although even that can struggle to put the power down, more is still tempting!
You can't get the ABT module covered by warranty for any other model just the Cupra R ST and it has to be ordered at the start, ABT on its own is about £1200.

The 280/290/300 all map up the same, with the exception of the new GPF equipped cars.

I ran 420 through the front wheels (Michelin Pilot Sport 4S) on when you learnt to moderate it, it worked quite well.

Nexus Icon

560 posts

61 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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I'm getting very confused by the use of Cupra as a brand and also as a model designation for SEAT. It's even got the coppery-coloured accents that Cupra uses on its branded cars.

HumanSteamroller

114 posts

77 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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I like it a lot. I don't even mind the copper wheels. Probably the best fast estate in this price point at the moment.

2smoke

216 posts

111 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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I was nosing around one of these over the weekend and think it looks even better in the metal. It was a delivery mileage car for £32k. I would imagine there are some deals to be found through some of the brokers too that might even beat that.

sideways man

1,313 posts

137 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Who’s the girl in the driving seat? She looks very much like my friend Katy laugh

Wardy5

136 posts

206 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Is it configurable without all the gold/bronze chintz?

And was it this 'gas mileage' you speak of? Are we turning American?

Sturminator911

49 posts

152 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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You could save yourself a lot of ching & buy a heavily discounted standard Cupra ST from a broker & live with the 300PS & standard set up. As a daily wagon pretty quick enough for every day use. I did investigate the ABT engine upgrade as an aftermarket with limited warranty but it comes in at 2k, so the £500 option on this R ST I agree is an absolute no brainer.
Seat Leon ST is way better looking than Golf R estate IMHO. Only issue for me now post recent emission regs changes is the standard ST exhaust is now way too quiet.

AJB88

12,384 posts

171 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Nexus Icon said:
I'm getting very confused by the use of Cupra as a brand and also as a model designation for SEAT. It's even got the coppery-coloured accents that Cupra uses on its branded cars.
This is a MK3 Leon so is still a "SEAT" , the next generation Leon will come as a SEAT Leon FR and a CUPRA Leon.

Scottie - NW

1,288 posts

233 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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rix said:
I assume this is more than a £500 addition aftermarket? Anyone know if the ‘280’ remaps to the same output as the 300 or are there hardware changes? I have a 280 fwd manual ST and I find it a whole lot of fun and although even that can struggle to put the power down, more is still tempting!
I'm no expert, but if it's the same manual box and clutch as in the Golf R I'd heard these can cause problems with even a Stage 1 remap, so maybe factor in cost for upgraded clutch/flywheel and check the longevity implications on the manual gearbox.

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Wardy5 said:
Is it configurable without all the gold/bronze chintz?
Don't think so, it's kind of the R style. I can imagine it puts lots of people off.

Where would you go if you wanted to buy one of these? It's not a Cupra is it, so you'd go to a Seat dealer? Do Seat also sell Cupra cars?


HumanSteamroller

114 posts

77 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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andrewparker said:
Wardy5 said:
Is it configurable without all the gold/bronze chintz?
Don't think so, it's kind of the R style. I can imagine it puts lots of people off.

Where would you go if you wanted to buy one of these? It's not a Cupra is it, so you'd go to a Seat dealer? Do Seat also sell Cupra cars?
Yep.

jimbim

67 posts

130 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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This just looks like a great package, including those wheels... I'd have one, yes, please.

I've had an S3 Sportback, loved it but the boot was tiny. Now, with a family of 4, small dog and larger house, finances dictate a used Leon ST 1.8T, and its a pleasing, decent thing. Lower quality inside by a mile and a bit less refined maybe, but you get what you pay for.

And that's what I don't get about the value argument with this ST R.

£38k may seem steep even for the 300ps car, but what else can you get..? It's full equipped at that price, I'm not aware it has an option list.
Unless you want a boggo Golf R, £37,350 buys solid paint and nasty wheels, so it'll cost you a load more.
Configure an equivalent Golf - yes, you still can:
Add Metallic, Performance Pack (bigger brakes and 19" alloys), Leather, Dynamic Chassis Control and you're looking at £43,000...
And that's without the carbon splitter and diffuser or the rarity of the ST R.

Oh, and as it's over £40k new, sir, that'll be an extra £320 pa RFL for up to 5 years... £1,600!!!

So that's £44,600 for the 300ps Golf - £6,600 more, or £6,100 more than the Abt car!

The RS3 and A45 don't compete here, they're too small and roughly £50k cars anyway.
The (now old) S4 Avant 3.0t petrol was 350ps too, but around £50k new with no more luggage space (or fun...) and much higher running costs.

Please don't tell us this is too expensive, get objective here and open your eyes to great value.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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With the run out 245 Octavia Vrs estates being flogged off under £22k the pricing on this looks ambitious.