Michelin Cross Climate+ or Goodyear Vector 4Seasons

[RutlandWebster]

Hi.
Trying to make a decision on Winter rated All Season tyres. Had a shopping list but my firm's supplier only has access to the Michelin Cross Climate+ or Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons.

Have to be Winter rated (with snowflake and ice capped mountain peak logos on them) due to trips to Germany and back during the Winter months.

Anyone any experience of both?

I've read the usual review sites. Michelin appears slightly stronger in all categories (especially Summer use) except road noise where it comes 6th out of 10 tyres on test in one report.

[otolith]

Not used them in cold weather yet, but I have a pair of CC+ on the back of my Mercedes. Subjectively, I'd say that they have a bit less grip than the Continental summers that were on before, it's a bit easier to break traction, but that they're fine. I need to swap them round really, and then kill the other pair of Contis before winter

[podwin]

I used to have Continentals.

Tried Cross Climates, and thought my power steering had been fixed or boosted, it felt weird!

But no problems with grip!

Just got Goodyears, and they are so noisy so I would not get them again, I have to turn the radio up on the motorway now.

Out of these three, I would go back to Continental from my own experience.

[mmm-five]

The reviews ( Autobild & Auto Motor & Sport) put them in this ranking (based on lots of criteria):

1) Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons Gen 2 (only negative seemed to be the price)
2) Continental AllSeasonContact (let down a bit by dry handling)
3) Michelin CrossClimate+ (let down by snow grip and curved aquaplaning scores)

Runners up were Nokian Weatherproof (good winter performance, but high wear rate), Falken Euroall Season AS210 (good winter performance, but poor wet performance), and Bridgestone WeatherControl (good in wet & dry, but poor in winter conditions).

[Pica-Pica]

I have plumped for Vredestein Quatrac 5 for my wife’s car. They also have the benefit of being asymmetric rather than directional. So once fitted on a wheel, they can fit any corner.

[nobrakes]

Pica-Pica said:

I have plumped for Vredestein Quatrac 5 for my wife’s car. They also have the benefit of being asymmetric rather than directional. So once fitted on a wheel, they can fit any corner.

I’ve put them on Mrs Nobrakes car. All these all weathers wear quickly compared to normal tyres.

[adsk]

podwin said:

I used to have Continentals.


Just got Goodyears, and they are so noisy so I would not get them again, I have to turn the radio up on the motorway now.

I also find the Goodyears noisy. They have got slightly better 6 months in but any imperfections in the road surface seem to reverberate acoustically through the tyre carcass into the car. Their external noise rating is one of the lowest you can get but the interior noise is very poor. Prior to buying them I had Goodyear Efficient grip summer/Dunlop Wintersports 4 and both were much quieter - I got both of these tyres because they were very good for interior noise. Reviews of the Vector4seasons didn't flag up interior noise as an issue, but it is.

[MDMA .]

Got a set of Cross Climate + on the daily. Problem I find is that they are prone to picking up stones and then staying within the tread. You then get a constant clicking noise every time the wheel rotates unless you keep picking them out.

[Honeywell]

22,000 miles out of crossclimates on a F10:535d and on second pair running all year round.

Brilliant tyre. I no longer buy winter/summer tyres. These just work.

[mcdjl]

I've just got about 20k miles or of a set of Goodyear's on runflat. They didn't do the others on my size and run flat so my choice was limited but they seem fine.

[Lotus Notes]

I've just bought an FN2 Civic with Cross climates and have replaced them with Dunlop Sport 5 Winter tyres and they are quieter with no-compromise for the odd Ski trip.

In a downpour today with 5cm of standing water they were excellent.

[Chris32345]

Got two Goodyear's on the rear other dayno issues only done 100 miles or so however kwickfit had a deal on (I know terrible place but great deal £20 cheeper then any other all season tyre I could find anywhere)

[rallycross]

I've used both of these on Volvo and 3 series,

The Michelin cross climate is a great all year round tyre that works well in the winter, good in heavy rain, frost, light snow (ie UK snow), Goodyear Vector 4 season never felt as good in normal dry use, and oddly seemed to get a lot of punctures,also wore quite quickly would not buy again, may have just been bad luck don't know.

[Salted_Peanut]

I've resurrected this thread to add Hankook Kinergy 4S2 tyres to the question. I've resuscitated this thread to add Hankook Kinergy 4S2 tyres into the question. This year's Auto Express all-season tyres test placed Hankook Kinergy 4S2 first, ahead of the CrossClimate 2.

I have tried several tyre brands over the years but not Hankook. What are they like?

[Kawasicki]

Done 20k miles on CrossClimates

Great tyres, but don’t expect a lot of wet or dry grip.

[braddo]

I have a set of the Goodyear vector 4seasons on a car and I've never noticed additional tyre noise. They feel sharper in the summer than the factory original Michelins that the car came with.

[roscopervis]

Salted_Peanut said:

I've resurrected this thread to add Hankook Kinergy 4S2 tyres to the question. I've resuscitated this thread to add Hankook Kinergy 4S2 tyres into the question. This year's Auto Express all-season tyres test placed Hankook Kinergy 4S2 first, ahead of the CrossClimate 2.

I have tried several tyre brands over the years but not Hankook. What are they like?

They are very good. I have a pair on the front of my Panda 4x4 Twin Air and they work great. Bought on the recommendation of Tyre Reviews YouTube channel. Apparently not quite as good as the Cross Climates 2 in the snow but better in the rain. I’ve only had them on a month and not experienced snow, or wear but they are good tyres.

[blueST]

Goodyear and Michelin are both good, so you probably won’t be disappointed with either. Have you looked at the detailed tests on TyreReviews.com? You might find one or other is stronger in the conditions that matter to you. Incidentally the CC+ has been superseded by the CC2 now. I went with Cross Climate 2 because snow traction was stronger which is what I was looking for, but it is not as strong in other areas like aquaplaning.

[fiesta_STage3]

Kawasicki said:

Done 20k miles on CrossClimates
Great tyres, but don’t expect a lot of wet or dry grip.

i’m trying to understand this answer - well then what about them is great?

for example, do you mean that if there’s standing water they’re not great, nor in hot summer, but they’re more predictable for single digit temperature/frosty roads?…or?

[ChocolateFrog]

fiesta_STage3 said:

Kawasicki said:

Done 20k miles on CrossClimates
Great tyres, but don’t expect a lot of wet or dry grip.

i’m trying to understand this answer - well then what about them is great?

for example, do you mean that if there’s standing water they’re not great, nor in hot summer, but they’re more predictable for single digit temperature/frosty roads?…or?

They're great because they're as good (and better than some) pure winter tyres. The trade off is that they're not quite as good at the summer end of the All Season spectrum. That said I think they're up with the best in dry stopping distance.

If you want a winter biased All Season tyre I don't think you can beat them.