RE: Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997.2) | Rise

RE: Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997.2) | Rise

Sunday 11th August

Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997.2) | Rise & Drive

The GT3 dynasty is 20 years old. PH celebrates in the best way possible...



Communicative, emotive, engaging, exhilarating - there are many qualities claimed for the Porsche's 997.2 GT3 RS. From its minimalist cabin and relentless pursuit of weight saving to its perfect proportions and feelsome steering, Porsche enthusiasts have multiple reasons to consider the model to be the pinnacle of the RS lineage.

To find out exactly what all the fuss is about - and because the concept of a GT3 variant turns 20 this summer - we made Dan P set his alarm for some ungodly hour and sent him to Brecon Beacons aboard Porsche's heritage car. With perfect weather laid on, what better backdrop is there for discussing how exactly the 997 GT3's track prowess translates into a superlative roadgoing experience?

You can check out the full Rise & Drive video below and, if you like what you see, subscribe to the PH Youtube channel for more. Don't forget to let us know what you'd like to see Dan drive next in the comments...


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DT398

Original Poster:

1,580 posts

92 months

Saturday 10th August
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Great video of an epic machine. Nicely sums up the essence of the car imho.

Still, I don’t really think aircon and pcm delete makes that much difference in the weights stakes, it’s more about the principle than the actual impact of taking that bit of weight out.

Awesome cars and as good as it gets in the GT range, including the latest and greatest.

AndrewD

6,926 posts

228 months

Saturday 10th August
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DT398 said:
Great video of an epic machine. Nicely sums up the essence of the car imho.

Still, I don’t really think aircon and pcm delete makes that much difference in the weights stakes, it’s more about the principle than the actual impact of taking that bit of weight out.

Awesome cars and as good as it gets in the GT range, including the latest and greatest.
+1

The modern 911 GT car peaked here, for me. Thanks for the video, inspires me to get up early tomorrow.

Court_S

1,035 posts

121 months

Saturday 10th August
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Cracking video, I really enjoyed that. I love this generation GT3.

moonigan

1,371 posts

185 months

Saturday 10th August
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When I did the GT day at PEC the 997.2 GT3RS was the last car I drove and it was the best of the bunch. When Dan says the clutch has weight he isn't joking. Getting into my 997.2 immediately afterwards I thought someone had disconnected the clutch as the pedal went straight to the floor.

Porsche911R

17,175 posts

209 months

Saturday 10th August
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Iconic car and most people’s dream, but he still had trouble getting any revs out of it in that vid ! So a bit frustrating to drive really I would say even with those straights.

JPCGT

141 posts

89 months

Saturday 10th August
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Good summary of the 997.2 GT3RS. When asked what it’s like to drive, I used to summarise it by saying you had to ‘sing for your supper’ driving this car. It’s pretty raw (not as raw as 996GT3RS) and could literally give you a headache when driving down to the Alps. The 991GT3RS is much more refined and GT’esque in nature, but you loose some of the rawness and interaction of the 997.2. Always felt that the 997.2 could do with an extra 50hp and you do need to work the close ratio box to get the most out of the mezger engine, which is mega and probably one of the best engines of any car. Get the car on circuit and it’s nature changed, perfectly balanced and tons of grip and hunkers down and trail braking helped to pin down the front end. In that respect, you had to get in the groove to drive this car well, otherwise it could frustrate you.

Edited by JPCGT on Saturday 10th August 09:09

NoPDK

42 posts

50 months

Saturday 10th August
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My 997.2 GT3 RS is for sale at an OPC, 991.2 RS just landed so it needs to go I’m afraid... Message me if anyone is interested smile

I 8 a 4RE

113 posts

185 months

Saturday 10th August
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Hate to say this. But the host’s voice is just too annoying to listen to in a long video.

Voice, presentation, appearance matters unfortunately.

browngt3

728 posts

155 months

Saturday 10th August
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Nicely done video. Makes a nice change not to have constant tyre squealing around a track. Liked the piece about this particular cars history too.

The 997.2 GT3RS is perhaps the only GT car I would replace my 991.2 with. However, where I might gain in a few areas like feelsome steering and firmer control weights I might lose in others eg. torquier and even more epic engine and subjectively nicer cabin. All the RS's are more focused for the track too so if you're not going to track it a lot the cooking GT3 is the better compromise.

browngt3

728 posts

155 months

Saturday 10th August
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I 8 a 4RE said:
Hate to say this. But the host’s voice is just too annoying to listen to in a long video.

Voice, presentation, appearance matters unfortunately.
Would you prefer Shmee?

SFO

4,682 posts

127 months

Saturday 10th August
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browngt3 said:
Makes a nice change not to have constant tyre squealing around a track.
+1

seawise

1,495 posts

150 months

Saturday 10th August
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another enjoyable video, even for someone like myself who having owned a very similar spec example from new for a few years to that press car probably knows all there is to know about these cars. personally i prefer the 996 RS, but the 997.2 RS is of course the superior car and i do miss mine. can't have both though.

SRT Hellcat

6,165 posts

161 months

Saturday 10th August
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Thoroughly enjoyed that. Great video. I keep getting that I really want one feeling. Do you get the 3.8 or go for the much more expensive 4 litre. If you buy the 4 litre would I then be worried about using it and hurting its value. One question for those that know. Can you get a big guy in the passenger bucket seat. 6'4" 25 stone. Not fat just a big guy. His dream is a lap of Spa and at some point I want to make that happen for him.

Wills2

15,808 posts

119 months

Saturday 10th August
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Great review and what a machine, I've had a passenger ride in one at the PEC with an instructor and it's a stunning car even from the passenger seat.

The noise from that engine is just perfect, love the slight pause as the next gear is selected as well, none of your seamless farty upshifts.





PorkInsider

3,519 posts

85 months

Saturday 10th August
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browngt3 said:
I 8 a 4RE said:
Hate to say this. But the host’s voice is just too annoying to listen to in a long video.

Voice, presentation, appearance matters unfortunately.
Would you prefer Shmee?
Oh god, please, no!

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MDL111

3,672 posts

121 months

Saturday 10th August
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SRT Hellcat said:
Thoroughly enjoyed that. Great video. I keep getting that I really want one feeling. Do you get the 3.8 or go for the much more expensive 4 litre. If you buy the 4 litre would I then be worried about using it and hurting its value. One question for those that know. Can you get a big guy in the passenger bucket seat. 6'4" 25 stone. Not fat just a big guy. His dream is a lap of Spa and at some point I want to make that happen for him.
I’d hazard a guess that if you can afford it you go for the 4.0 as the ultimate version.

ghiblicup

496 posts

158 months

Saturday 10th August
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An OPC has a 4 for sale at the moment


https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/911-GT3-RS-40-...

unsprung

3,294 posts

68 months

Saturday 10th August
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I 8 a 4RE said:
Hate to say this. But the host’s voice is just too annoying to listen to in a long video.

Voice, presentation, appearance matters unfortunately.
Funny how preferences are.

To me, sat over here on the other side of the Atlantic, Dan P. is an exceptional extemporaneous speaker on the subject of cars.






unsprung

3,294 posts

68 months

Saturday 10th August
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Court_S said:
Cracking video, I really enjoyed that.
+1

The concept of "Rise" is a clever way to approach a review.

And the rolling green hills are simply gorgeous.

Requisite flask of tea!


323ti

112 posts

65 months

Saturday 10th August
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The whole RS thing never appealed to me. Foregoing aircon to shed a few lbs, paying thousands extra for a lighter battery.
Just go on a diet and get a regular GT3, all sorted. They look a lot less ridiculous as well.