RE: Volvo launches 390hp S60 T8 Twin Engine

RE: Volvo launches 390hp S60 T8 Twin Engine

Wednesday 21st August 2019

Volvo launches 390hp S60 T8 Twin Engine

New plug-in hybrid model will hit 62mph in 4.6 seconds - with a Polestar Engineered version to come



Secretly liking fast Volvos is something of a thing in the PH office. Age is apparently no barrier; recalling Rickard Rydell's glory days or the launch of the 850 T-5R is not necessary. Which is odd, because Volvo hasn't built a legitimately good performance car since forever. And that's coming from someone lucky enough to have driven the 508hp S60 Polestar concept that the (then independent) tuner rolled out in 2012...

That fact is unlikely to change with the introduction of a T8 Twin Engine variant of the current S60 - although news that it outputs fully 390hp is at least cause for celebration among those who prefer their Swedish saloons to come with a bit of genuine pep. Needless to say, that overall figure accounts for the 87hp being delivered by an electric motor, but there's still an uprated 303hp petrol motor to get mildly excited about - plus Volvo says there will be a 405hp S60 T8 Polestar Engineered version to follow.


Even without additional fettling, the T8 puts up pleasing numbers: being all-wheel drive it will reportedly get to 62mph in 4.6 seconds, and its maker excitedly quotes a 295lb ft + 177lb ft in the available torque column - which suggests you'll be getting something like quite a lot when both power sources are correctly aligned. Naturally you can disregard the claimed 176.5mpg economy out of hand, but the electric-only range of up to 36 miles enabled by a 11.8kWh battery is likely to suit some Volvo buyers down to the ground.

Of course it's very likely that the weight of said battery is the reason why the manufacturer will not sell you a T8 model with the more rigorous T5 chassis (which in R-Design Plus format gets stiffer springs, faster-responding monotube dampers, thicker anti-roll bars and a 12mm lower ride height) but at £49,805, Volvo has probably pinned its target sales volume on urban-based execs anyway.

That makes the T8 a sort-of rival to the new Audi S4, a model which now combines a 3.0-litre V6 diesel with a 48v mild hybrid system to deliver 347hp to all four wheels. It won't do 36 miles without burning oil - but it doesn't need plugging in either and will deliver 516lb ft of torque without the need for a disclaimer. Obviously low rate of company car tax will be to the T8's advantage in any like-for-like match-up. Alongside public affection for the brand, which is apparently built-in.


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Sion111R

Original Poster:

312 posts

92 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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I had an S60 T5 “high pressure turbo” I think was the description Volvo used at the time.
The salesman told me it “ was so unnecessary” despite my being adamant it was the engine I wanted in the car.
The car was quickly named “the flying sofa” by my family - which was apt.
It had a hunger for front tyres and tended to go straight on irrespective of steering angle whenever it rained.
But still fondly remembered today and remains the baseline for a wafty milemuncher in our household.

Frimley111R

15,653 posts

234 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Lovely looking car but i just can't get over those rear lights

Turbobanana

6,266 posts

201 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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I want to comment, but feel I have to change my user name to Turbobanana111R to qualify smile

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

130 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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I don’t know why you have to be old to like a Volvo or like it secretly, the new generation are easily the best looking cars in all their classes

The new S60 especially is miles ahead of the new 3 series and with this engine god knows why you would buy anything else

scottygib553

530 posts

95 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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The estate looks so much better. The Twin Engine looks an exciting proposition but they are pricey.

XRMike

213 posts

126 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Awesome looking machine with a cracking drive unit underneath. Little bit too pricey but I'm sure they won't have any problems selling them .

loudlashadjuster

5,123 posts

184 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Turbobanana111R said:
I want to comment, but feel I have to change my user name to Turbobanana111R to qualify smile
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aarondbs

845 posts

146 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Just ordered a V90 T8 to replace the X5 Hybrid and I can’t wait..... although I’ll have to. A real joy to drive, a little stolid but sounds, handled, stops and goes better than my current. Volvos look really smart right now and the estates look fab imho of course

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Nickbrapp said:
I don’t know why you have to be old to like a Volvo or like it secretly, the new generation are easily the best looking cars in all their classes

The new S60 especially is miles ahead of the new 3 series and with this engine god knows why you would buy anything else
byebye I’m 23 and it’s no secret that I’m a huge Volvo fan!

The Polestar Engineered S60 T8 is probably my dream daily driver at the moment. Shame I cannot afford one and have to live with my oil burning V70 frown

Sion111R

Original Poster:

312 posts

92 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Dear Turbobanana 111R, welcome to the club. smile

spikyone

1,451 posts

100 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Nickbrapp said:
I don’t know why you have to be old to like a Volvo or like it secretly, the new generation are easily the best looking cars in all their classes
Amen. Absolutely lovely looking things that make Mercs and BMWs look last-generation, and Audis look fussy. Last time I drove one - a V40, admittedly - it was easily the equal of anything German for comfort and refinement. If I were in the market for an exec saloon, a Volvo would be very high on the list.

Arsecati

2,309 posts

117 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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I may well be wrong here (considering it appears I'm now regarded as 'old' at the age of 47, and absolutely remember the mad days of the BTCC Estate Cars!), but would I be wrong in thinking that out of all the 'premium' brands out there, current Volvos would definitely be regarded as one of the 'hippest' considering it's design language? Understated, Scandinavian cool?

Does me saying 'hippest' and 'cool' just reinforce the fact that I'm a dinosaur, out of touch with 'yoof speak'?

I'll just get back to me Anusol and Werthers then....... Ooohhh........... me grapes!!!!

leglessAlex

5,448 posts

141 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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I love this, and I think the S90/V90 are fantastically handsome cars, in the way the E39 generation 5-Series were. Just good proportions, not overdesigned at all.

Interiors are really, really nice too. I'll have to have an estate one day, always wanted a fast Volvo again.

Amanitin

421 posts

137 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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how reliable are these powertrains? it sure sounds very complex. The last time somebody tried a low capacity super and turbocharged engine it did not go down particularly well.

Jon_S_Rally

3,403 posts

88 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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Volvos do look nice at the moment, but I do miss the (relatively) lairy 850R. One of these in estate form, a bit lower, with a bit of spoilerage could be a deeply cool car.

steve S owner

82 posts

223 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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I have fond memories of tearing around the Council estates after stolen Calibras in early 850 T5s! Nothing to touch them at the time. Loved Volvos ever since.

cossey

149 posts

189 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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I still think these do not seem to fit it with the way Volvo are trying to go. The performance cannot really be used in the effortless quick but bit really trying way that most if the competition can.

Ultimately 300+BHP through the front wheels is quite possible in the latest hot hatches but requires compromises on the chassis side to take advantage that are less acceptable in a big saloon/estate. The extra drive from the rear end will mask this at part load but then the extra power is a bit pointless.

I am still not sure I would want this over the more conventional powertrains from the Germans (340i or c43) even if the car itself has a lot going for it.

scottygib553

530 posts

95 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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cossey said:
I still think these do not seem to fit it with the way Volvo are trying to go. The performance cannot really be used in the effortless quick but bit really trying way that most if the competition can.

Ultimately 300+BHP through the front wheels is quite possible in the latest hot hatches but requires compromises on the chassis side to take advantage that are less acceptable in a big saloon/estate. The extra drive from the rear end will mask this at part load but then the extra power is a bit pointless.

I am still not sure I would want this over the more conventional powertrains from the Germans (340i or c43) even if the car itself has a lot going for it.
I'm not sure if it is exactly the same setup but I've read that the XC60 Twin Power doesn't feel anywhere as fast as the numbers suggest. Hope it is not the same in this instance.

cookington

103 posts

142 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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I was seriously considering the T6 version (300ish bhp 4wd) as a replacement for my S3 saloon. I love the looks inside and out and was hoping for similar performance with a more comfortable ride. (Even if this means dynamics are compromised slightly.)

I test drove the T5 at the launch event (250ish bhp fwd) it was everything I expected but the steering was so disconnected that I fear it would border on dangerous when pushing on. I took a mini roundabout carrying a bit of speed, I knew the premium tyres were more than up to the job but there was absolutely no feedback through the steering wheel.

This is a bold statement coming from an Audi driver given their alleged lack of steering feel.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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I'm only a few weeks into Volvo ownership and I'm loving it so far - with the previous generation T6 so a proper 300bhp car that didn't cost me much to buy, buy costs me a crap load in fuel (compared to my old diesel Skoda)