RE: Cyan claims two 'ring records... with one car

RE: Cyan claims two 'ring records... with one car

Friday 23rd August 2019

Cyan claims two 'ring records... with one car

Lynk & Co 03 is the fastest FWD and four-door at the Nordschleife, lapping in 7:20



Remember the crazy Polestar concepts of a few years back? There was the 400hp C30 of 2010, followed up by the 2012 S60 Concept, with 508hp and a manual gearbox. Well, here's what that team is doing now: Polestar's motorsport people became Cyan Racing, Cyan Racing (as part of Geely) runs the Lynk & Co WTCR team, and the 03 Cyan Concept is the roadgoing version of its racer. It's also now a record-breaker, too, with a 7:20.143 lap time on the Nurburgring Nordschleife.

As always, there are some caveats. With the car very much still in development, it's hard to consider the 03 Cyan Concept a true production saloon in the same way that so many others can legitimately claim to be. In addition, this Lynk & Co has been pitched thus far very much as an adaptation of the touring car for the road, rather than a track day tool that's also suitable for the street. We don't know for certain yet, though it looks like being the kind of thing that'll make a GT3 RS feel like a Panamera hybrid.

Still, let's not take anything away from a remarkable achievement. For starters, this is a 528hp front-wheel drive car that actually works, which is something in itself. That it's then lapped perhaps the most challenging track on the planet three seconds faster than Jaguar Project 8 - the four-door car it has seized the record from - despite the FWD and less power is even more incredible still. That was on production tyres, too, the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 favoured by so many circuit specials.


With a whole Renault Sport Clio's worth of extra power over the Megane Trophy R - the incumbent front-wheel drive champ on the Nurburgring - the Cyan Racing's second record is perhaps less laudable. Still, taking 20 seconds out is substantial.

Henrik Fries is Cyan's Automotive R&D boss - he said: "While our main purpose for the many laps on the Nurburgring Nordschleife is development, the records that we broke are a true testament to the potential and capabilities of the Lynk & Co platform, as well as our engineering philosophy from more than two decades of motorsport and road car performance."

As for the feasibility of the 03 Cyan Concept, the release for the lap time also mentions development for the car in Sweden this winter, "as part of creating a performance car for all roads, all seasons and all conditions." That would imply something for full production, if probably in limited numbers, and not merely the flight of fancy that previous Polestar vehicles represented. It's certainly progress we'll keep a keen eye on, which is not a sentiment ever previously expressed on PH about a four-cylinder, four-door, front-wheel drive Chinese saloon. Let's see what happens next...





 


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sidesauce

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2,475 posts

218 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Impressive but not the best looking car... I wonder how well it'll sell in the West?

RacerMike

4,204 posts

211 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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I mean.....it's quick sure, but that's not surprising since it seems to be a TCR car with 528hp! Not exactly in the same sort of category as the Jag or any other actual production car. And that's got to be on slicks too? It peaks at 1,8g regularly and even a Cup2 R can 'only' manage about 1.6g.

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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RacerMike said:
I mean.....it's quick sure, but that's not surprising since it seems to be a TCR car with 528hp! Not exactly in the same sort of category as the Jag or any other actual production car. And that's got to be on slicks too? It peaks at 1,8g regularly and even a Cup2 R can 'only' manage about 1.6g.
i did wonder about that

dunnoreally

963 posts

108 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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I wonder if this won't put a lid on the fwd ring record contests for a bit - as has already been said, we're talking about a literal racing car in an increased state of tune here. It's unlikely anyone's beating that in anything road legal for a while.

I don't know how NGTC cars compare with TCRs, so I guess maaaaybe Honda could ship Matt Neal and his car over if they fancied another go. I expect they'd already have done that if they wanted to, though.

untakenname

4,969 posts

192 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Sounds like they are using a sequential dogbox which alone will offer quite a few seconds advantage per lap, isn't this just a caged racecar with some interior added?
imo there should be a rule where they're able to be bought by the public in the same trim and also be roadworthy.


Jon_S_Rally

3,403 posts

88 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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If you glance at this car, it's quite cool looking, with a bit of Dodge Charger in the front end. Then you look closely and see the weird bonnet line and silly lights. They should have just made the upper grill a touch taller and integrated the lights into it. The Lynk & Co naming business is just cringe-worthy too.

Anyway, that aside, there's no doubting that this is a quick car but, as the article suggests, it sounds like it might be a bit of a stretch to suggest the lap times are legit in production car terms.

I don't really understand the surprise at the fact that it is FWD and it works. Times have moved on a lot. Front wheel drive cars can handle a lot of power and, given that the Norschleife is a very fast circuit, traction isn't going to be an issue like it may be out of tight, slow speed corners.

J4CKO

41,543 posts

200 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Sort of Cayenne squashed onto a Camaro thing going on, with an old Audi A4 at the back.

Robmarriott

2,638 posts

158 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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528bhp, slicks, sequential 'box and it's only ~1.5s/mile quicker than something you could actually buy...

Give the Megane the same and see what it'd do.

Al U

2,312 posts

131 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Lights have a whiff of Nissan Juke about them, particularly the upper clusters.

Maldini35

2,913 posts

188 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Robmarriott said:
528bhp, slicks, sequential 'box and it's only ~1.5s/mile quicker than something you could actually buy...

Give the Megane the same and see what it'd do.
good point

CedricN

820 posts

145 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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It was on road legal tyres as I understand it, and it looks like it on the pics. Which makes it a bit weirder, a racing car on street tyres? Since it cant compete with the production cars anyway it could have had slicks aswell, just to see how fast an FWD could go. (though as others have pointed out, on the ring its not a big issue)

I like that in this day and age its still possible to get money for fun projects just like this, well done !

Snails

915 posts

166 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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J4CKO said:
Sort of Cayenne squashed onto a Camaro thing going on, with an old Audi A4 at the back.
With a hint of Alpine A110 from the rear quarter view.

WCZ

10,523 posts

194 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Robmarriott said:
528bhp, slicks, sequential 'box and it's only ~1.5s/mile quicker than something you could actually buy...

Give the Megane the same and see what it'd do.
yeah it's not that impressive imo

Tuvra

7,921 posts

225 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Article states:-

"Jaguar Project 8 - the four-door car it has seized the record from - despite the FWD and less power is even more incredible still. That was on production tyres, too, the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 favoured by so many circuit specials.

So which car was on Michelin PSC2's? The Cyan or the Jaguar? It doesn't read very well/clearly? confused

M4SER

295 posts

126 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Car looks extremely quick 100-200km/h, I wonder what the kerb weight is? I too can't believe it's running on regular road tyres and hitting those sort of peak G numbers through the corners.

It should also be pointed out the Jaguar Project 8 recently went back to the 'Ring in production form and posted a 7:18 lap, video here; https://youtu.be/8fDwCaAgb3Q

RazerSauber

2,277 posts

60 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Impressive certainly but it looks like a modern Dodge Charger has mated with a Nissan Juke..

Condi

17,188 posts

171 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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M4SER said:
It should also be pointed out the Jaguar Project 8 recently went back to the 'Ring in production form and posted a 7:18 lap, video here; https://youtu.be/8fDwCaAgb3Q
So the Polestar's time either wasn't a record, or wasn't a record for very long then!

CedricN

820 posts

145 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Other sites says Cup2 285/30R20, and it looks lite it on the high res pics (you wont find those here though biggrin)

M4SER

295 posts

126 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Condi said:
So the Polestar's time either wasn't a record, or wasn't a record for very long then!
Pistonheads ran the story of the Jaguar Project 8 achieving a 7:18 lap on 24th July, so I can't see how this new time can be a new 4-door record?
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-britishcars/pr...

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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What an odd looking thing.