RE: Abt delivers 240hp Audi A1

RE: Abt delivers 240hp Audi A1

Thursday 29th August 2019

Abt delivers 240hp Audi A1

There isn't going to be another Audi S1 - so an Abt-tuned A1 might be the next best thing...



Believe it or not, the last Audi S1 was an immensely likeable little car. Of course the style and speed (courtesy of a 231hp, 2.0-litre turbo) were givens, but the Audi impressed with agile handling that defied its weight, well sorted ride and manual-only curio appeal. It was desirable beyond the usual Audi parameters, and therefore quite cool. Its cost counted against it, but the S1's strong residuals - you'll still pay £16k for one - are a reflection of its status.

Given how funky the new A1 looks, then, it's a shame that Audi will not make another S1. It's even more of a shame, actually, given its de facto replacement is the SQ2, a car described by Top Gear magazine as devoid of "any hint of driving zing or sparkle". Damn crossovers.


Anyway, for those keen on a sporty new Audi A1, ABT is at hand. Its ECU work has yielded 20 per cent more power for a 40 TFSI, meaning 240hp - more than the old S1, or a Mini Cooper S JCW, or even a Mountune'd Fiesta ST. With torque at 266lb ft, expect an improvement on the standard car's 6.5 seconds to 62mph, especially with the standard dual-clutch gearbox.

That should be enough for most, though for those not content there are a range of other Abt upgrades available. Lowering springs reduce the ride height by 25mm, and are compatible with both the passive and adaptive dampers, while the Abt Sport GR wheels are unique to this A1. Dare it be said, this looks pretty good...

Abt currently only lists a €3,790 price for the springs and wheels as a package, with the power upgrade cost as yet unconfirmed. Finally, fear not those buyers in the UK worried it might be Germany only - Richter Sport in Bletchley is an official distributor over here for Abt. Might be worth giving them a call...


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ogrodz

Original Poster:

179 posts

120 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Took the old S1 for a test drive once - despite an enjoyable and spirited experience, three issues prevailed:
1. Torque steer - very noticeable particularly around roundabouts engaged at pace
2. Cramped rear - rear seat and boot space very small indeed, might be Ok for some but we were looking for a Polo replacement
3. Price - typical Audi pricing

Was looking forward to a resolution of the first two issues with the new model and the promise of a future classic - a missed opportunity I think Audi...

AJB88

12,386 posts

171 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Are AUDI UK going to warranty it like SEAT UK are on the Leon Cupra R ST ABT? (£500 upgrade thats covered by warranty)

pb8g09

2,331 posts

69 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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I bought an S1 a year ago and sold it 4 months later. Just so darn boring to drive.

ZX10R NIN

27,577 posts

125 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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That looks great in that colour.

Slippydiff

14,814 posts

223 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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pb8g09 said:
I bought an S1 a year ago and sold it 4 months later. Just so darn boring to drive.
Dull, inert steering, dull sounding engine, hopeless gearchange, uninspiring handling. All pretty standard “hot” Audi stuff really ...

What took its place ?

VeeFource

1,076 posts

177 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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pb8g09 said:
I bought an S1 a year ago and sold it 4 months later. Just so darn boring to drive.
Not sure how you can say it's boring. It's not a pure weekend toy by any stretch but like the Golf R it has great refinement for long distance work and then turns into a ferocious little bee of a car when you put it into dynamic mode down some decent b roads. Did you discover it's quirk of not actually resuming dynamic mode when starting it up even though it says so? A common Audi issue apparently so you have select it again and then the car totally changes character. Way more feel comes through the steering and the exhaust gets almost offensively loud. I've never experienced torque steer in mine as commented by the first poster either but then you have to keep on top of haldex pump gauze maintenance or it will stop sending power to the rear without a warning which could explain it. I bl##dy love mine anyway and I'm glad it's something of a hidden gem.

Edited by VeeFource on Thursday 29th August 22:09

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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S1 innit

Terminator X

15,041 posts

204 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Shame that Audi never built a RS1 but perhaps it would have stepped on toes of S3?

TX.

EpsomJames

790 posts

246 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Had my S1 nearly 3 years from new as my daily commuter car. Absolutely love it and no plans to sell especially as Audi told me there wouldn’t be another.

Certainly doesn’t have torque steer, at least no where near as bad as it’s sister Polo GTI.

Yes it’s cramped in the rear, especially when you spec the buckets, and the boot is almost comical, but as a commuter to get me to work when half my journey is stop-start in large town and the rest is very narrow and slippery (in the winter) country lanes I can’t think of a better (or quicker) car.

GTEYE

2,094 posts

210 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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The new one definitely has a few shades of A-Class in there - not a bad looker.

To those that bought and didn’t like the previous S1 - didn’t you try one first? From experience, fast Audis don’t disguise their poor dynamics very well, it normally comes out after a few hundred yards. I guess a test is not always possible, which is why I never buy a car I haven’t driven first however positive the magazine reviews might be - knowing how low the standard of journalism is these days....

If that means I can’t be an early adopter, so be it....

spikyone

1,451 posts

100 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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GTEYE said:
The new one definitely has a few shades of A-Class in there - not a bad looker.
Not content with making all of their own cars look identical, German manufacturers are now making their cars look like each other's...

I'm not a fan, those nostrils are unnecessarily fussy (and plain weird on the cooking versions), and it looks absolutely huge - it must be the size of a MK1 A3? The reputation and price mean I'm unlikely to ever find out whether it drives better than it looks.

pb8g09

2,331 posts

69 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Slippydiff said:
Dull, inert steering, dull sounding engine, hopeless gearchange, uninspiring handling. All pretty standard “hot” Audi stuff really ...

What took its place ?
I replaced it with a 6 cylinder manual Z4.

I thought the gear change was too light- I thought I was going to rip the gear stick off every time I changed from 2nd to 3rd whilst giving it the beans. I also found that where I live (South Dorset), I was always getting baited into racing. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a very fast and capable car, but it’s when you look at what you could have got for the same money... (I.e. £20k used).

pb8g09

2,331 posts

69 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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VeeFource said:
Not sure how you can say it's boring. It's not a pure weekend toy by any stretch but like the Golf R it has great refinement for long distance work and then turns into a ferocious little bee of a car when you put it into dynamic mode down some decent b roads. Did you discover it's quirk of not actually resuming dynamic mode when starting it up even though it says so? A common Audi issue apparently so you have select it again and then the car totally changes character. Way more feel comes through the steering and the exhaust gets almost offensively loud. I've never experienced torque steer in mine as commented by the first poster either but then you have to keep on top of haldex pump gauze maintenance or it will stop sending power to the rear without a warning which could explain it. I bl##dy love mine anyway and I'm glad it's something of a hidden gem.

Edited by VeeFource on Thursday 29th August 22:09
I did notice it a couple of times but thought it was just mine!

I couldn’t stand the gearbox, too light, and the constant stories of people’s clutches going on the S1- Audi forum meant I was very conscious of it when driving.

It was fast though....



epom

11,491 posts

161 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Looks dare I say it, Delta-esque from the side on view. Though that might just be the colour.

Mike1990

964 posts

131 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Looks pretty good in the pictures, quite purposeful.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Handsome little car.

VeeFource

1,076 posts

177 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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pb8g09 said:
VeeFource said:
Not sure how you can say it's boring. It's not a pure weekend toy by any stretch but like the Golf R it has great refinement for long distance work and then turns into a ferocious little bee of a car when you put it into dynamic mode down some decent b roads. Did you discover it's quirk of not actually resuming dynamic mode when starting it up even though it says so? A common Audi issue apparently so you have select it again and then the car totally changes character. Way more feel comes through the steering and the exhaust gets almost offensively loud. I've never experienced torque steer in mine as commented by the first poster either but then you have to keep on top of haldex pump gauze maintenance or it will stop sending power to the rear without a warning which could explain it. I bl##dy love mine anyway and I'm glad it's something of a hidden gem.

Edited by VeeFource on Thursday 29th August 22:09
I did notice it a couple of times but thought it was just mine!

I couldn’t stand the gearbox, too light, and the constant stories of people’s clutches going on the S1- Audi forum meant I was very conscious of it when driving.

It was fast though....
The gearbox is by far the weakest link of the driving experience, mainly because of the generous amount of slop. But it's easily fixed by shimming the gearbox linkage with some metal tape and a there's always a quickshift for sub £200 if it being too light is an issue. In its defence it is a very agreeable box compared with a lot if Japanese performance cars which have to be fully warm before playing ball.

okenemem

1,358 posts

194 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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looks ok

Harryturbs

46 posts

127 months

Saturday 7th September 2019
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I'm currently driving a new shape 2.0L tfsi A1 and its really good. Doesn't feel much slower than the previous S1, being down on power but 2wd!