RE: Adrian Newey establishes Extreme E off-road team

RE: Adrian Newey establishes Extreme E off-road team

Friday 31st January 2020

Ken Block tests Extreme E car at Dakar | Update

Adrian Newey-headed series will kick-off next year; Block clocked third quickest stage time in 550hp EV



Ken Block has posted new video footage from his recent stint in Extreme E’s 550hp rally car, showing how development is going with little more than one year before the inaugural round of Adrian Newey’s championship takes place. The American Gymkhana star had his first stint in the all-electric Odyssey 21 during the last stage of the Dakar Rally earlier this month, where he clocked an impressive third quickest time overall – albeit in a car not bruised and battered by 11 days of rallying and carrying spares, tools, or conforming to Dakar regulations. But while direct time comparison is irrelevant, it does illustrate the pace of Extreme E’s 750lb ft of torque-producing machine.

In the new video, Block says the drive was “fun” but that it also required a “reset” of his techniques, thanks to the instant arrival of that torque. As we know from his usual content, Block's more used to boost than dual electric motors. The Odyssey 21’s use at Dakar was, of course, driven as much by the potential for exposure as it was testing mileage. The cars fielded in the Extreme E series, which Newey will run alongside two-time Formula E champ Jean-Eric Vergne, will compete only with identical machinery in some of the world’s most hard to reach areas, including on an Asian glacier of the Arctic and next to the Amazon rainforest.


That has, unsurprisingly, left many puzzled as to how Extreme E can proclaim to be emphasising the vulnerability of these global environments, given that it'll bring a series-worth of people and equipment to those very places. But the championship believes the attention it provides them and their problems will far outweigh its use of nearby land. The series will be filmed using drones and there'll be no spectator grandstands, minimising the amount of space needed to run each event. Oh, and the cars, drivers and everything else will be carried from place to place on an efficiency-adapted ex-Royal Mail ship rather than planes, in a bid to further reduce the global impact.

While that might still leave some unconvinced, at least now we’ve something tangible to go on to illustrate progress on the actual car. Over to you, Ken...


Original story: 19.09.2019

Fresh from a drive at the Goodwood Revival, Adrian Newey has just established a new Extreme E team alongside two-time Formula E champ Jean-Eric Vergne. The pairing’s new squad, Veloce Racing, will compete in the electric rally racing championship from its opener in February 2021 with Venturi, ABT and HWA also confirmed – and Sebastien Ogier and Jamie Chadwick amongst the driver line-up.

Veloce is a name only previously known in E-sport racing, so this marks its first entry into traditional (aka real) motorsport. Although Extreme E is not conventional either, because it uses a purpose-built, 550hp all-electric racer called Odyssey 21 and will be hosted in some of the world’s most vulnerable places – all in a bid to highlight the damage humanity is doing to them.


In fact, Veloce said it’s this highlighting of global destruction that has drawn it to the championship, with the firm announcing that it is eager to “support Extreme E’s goal of implementing positive legacy projects in each race location and not only raising awareness of the challenges faced but actively aiming to improve those environments”. Newey added that “everyone involved in Veloce Racing is extremely passionate about racing, competition and cutting-edge technology, as well as tackling environmental issues that face the world today”. Touching, no?

Rounds are due to take place in the Arctic, on an Asian glacier, next to the Amazon rainforest, on the Sahara Desert and on a Pacific Ocean island. If that all sounds bizarre, in order to the reduce the impact of this global motorsport series, Extreme E has purchased ex-Royal Mail ship RMS St Helena for £32 million to be its floating base, reducing the demand for air travel.


RMS St Helena, which is currently being modernised to lower its emissions, will carry the cars, operations equipment and pretty much everything else (barring the drivers and team staff, we assume) needed to host a championship at the five planned venues. The racing itself will run using a knockout format, while drones handle the filming duties - presumably to reduce the infrastructure that needs to be put into place.

There’s no mention of spectator grandstands or viewing spots on Extreme E’s website, which comes as little surprise given the intended locations, but it may hamper the appeal a bit. Still, with Newey, Verge and Ogier amongst Extreme E’s ranks, the series appears to have legs. Not that most of us lot will fall into the target market; we suspect this is a series very much looking to motivate Generation Z. We wish it luck!


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Turbobanana

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6,265 posts

201 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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PH said:
tackling environmental issues that face the world today”. Touching, no?
I'll don my hard hat, but no: I love the fact that he's involved in this, but from a sporting perspective. Don't try to make it he's saving the planet after decades of very successfully designing cars with the environment resolutely at the back of his mind.

Also, can you please proof-read and explain what this means:

PH said:
Extreme E has purchased ex-Royal Mail for £32 million to be its floating base

Dynamic Space Wizard

928 posts

104 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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Having seen some of the Tesla fire videos on YouTube, I wouldn't want to be bobbing about in the middle of the ocean in a boat full of these things.

sinbaddio

2,371 posts

176 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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Turbobanana said:
PH said:
tackling environmental issues that face the world today”. Touching, no?
I'll don my hard hat, but no: I love the fact that he's involved in this, but from a sporting perspective. Don't try to make it he's saving the planet after decades of very successfully designing cars with the environment resolutely at the back of his mind.

Also, can you please proof-read and explain what this means:

PH said:
Extreme E has purchased ex-Royal Mail for £32 million to be its floating base
Agree completely.

cookie1600

2,114 posts

161 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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Dynamic Space Wizard said:
Having seen some of the Tesla fire videos on YouTube, I wouldn't want to be bobbing about in the middle of the ocean in a boat full of these things.
Or presumably beside the Amazon forest - although the locals seem to be burning that down with a vengeance.

Mr-B

3,780 posts

194 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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Let's go to the Arctic with a few hundred race personnel in tow and race some oversized Tamiya's to draw attention to the fact that the environment is being damaged by human activity, really? How much weed had they smoked when they came up with that one?

Motor racing is not friendly to the environment, just accept it and don't try and justify it with this cobblers. Slightly OT but F1 downsized to (awful sounding) V6 turbos to be "more efficient", well done, good effort, and now they add another 3 races to the calendar from next year with the associated carbon footprint of 100,000+ people attending each of those events and the jumbo jets needed to cart the F1 circus to those additional circuits, those V6's must be very efficient to offset all that CO2. Just give us back the V8's FFS!

ducnick

1,783 posts

243 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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If filming is by drone in the middle of nowhere with zero actual spectators, would it not be far cheaper to use 1/10th scale radio controlled buggies and slow the footage down to look more boring? Cheaper on boating expenses too

oilit

2,625 posts

178 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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i am lost for words - he is obviously so out of touch with the modern world.

The fact that even on pistonheads every comment has been questioning why you would take anything into a delicate and perilously close to 'damaged beyond repair' environment with anything man made in the name of entertainment highlights how far this is beyond belief.

He should hold his head in shame


Cold

15,246 posts

90 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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They're transporting the teams on Greta's boat so will be carbon neutral - if not a little late for each race meet.

eliot

11,426 posts

254 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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promo video trying its hardest with loud music and slow mo to make the car look exciting

Sandpit Steve

10,035 posts

74 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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eliot said:
promo video trying its hardest with loud music and slow mo to make the car look exciting
I’m sure the car itself is quite exciting, with 550bhp and big suspension that looks like it came from a stadium truck. Everything else about the project, not so much.

Oldwolf

932 posts

193 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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And when they arrive at these places in the middle of nowhere how will they charge the electric vehicles? Diesel generator?

deadtom

2,557 posts

165 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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Oldwolf said:
And when they arrive at these places in the middle of nowhere how will they charge the electric vehicles? Diesel generator?
That was my first thought too.

I expect they will be charging the battery packs on board their big ship, but assuming it runs on the same kind of little better than crude oil as a lot of other big ships, that's still not particularly environmentally friendly.

I wonder if they will hold a stage at on of those enormous mines that produce the metals used in construction of BEV battery packs (and conventional vehicles too of course, but more so for BEVs)?

The vehicles themselves look pretty cool though, life size RC car stadium trucks cool

Charybdis

73 posts

284 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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oilit said:
The fact that even on pistonheads every comment has been questioning why you would take anything into a delicate and perilously close to 'damaged beyond repair' environment with anything man made in the name of entertainment highlights how far this is beyond belief.
Exactly this.

Turbobanana

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6,265 posts

201 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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Just about Everybody said:
All the right things
To save everyone else the trouble I checked the calendar - nope, not April 1st.

Dinoboy

2,499 posts

217 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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Sounds about as misguided as filming an episode of man vs Food in a famine struck African village.

GhellopeSir

70 posts

80 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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Used to like and even admire Adrian Newey in some repects.

Now...not so much...

What an ill-conceived, moronic endeavour this is.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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cookie1600 said:
Or presumably beside the Amazon forest - although the locals seem to be burning that down with a vengeance.
Who do think burned down the forests that covered the UK and central Europe?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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More importantly, without beam axles these vehicles will never actually work........ ;-)

cliveju

32 posts

90 months

Saturday 1st February 2020
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As I see it, electric cars need a more sporty image to become popular and this series certainly delivers that.