RE: BMW 8 Series Gran Coupe | Driven

RE: BMW 8 Series Gran Coupe | Driven

Thursday 26th September 2019

2020 BMW 8 Series Gran Coupe | PH Review

The hateful 8? The 8th wonder of the world? A right two and 8? PH takes on BMW's flagship coupe



Can there be any discussion, debate or assessment of a contemporary BMW without making reference to how it looks? Nope, thought not; no better place, therefore, to begin contemplation of the 8 Series Gran Coupe.

Handily, this large, swooping, handsome coupe can be resoundingly classified as one of the firm's successes. Let's be honest, there aren't many unequivocal ones in the current line-up: the 3 Series is very nicely done, but the Z4 isn't quite the ticket, the X7 gaudy, the X2 dumpy and the enormous grilles spreading with the speed and destruction of Japanese knotweed. Harsh, but you get the point.

This 8 Series though? Spot on. Really, really nice. The sheer size immediately imbues presence, though it's genuinely good looking as well. Much of the length gain from the two-door coupe is in the wheelbase, meaning it retains a lot of the 8 Series cues, any awkwardness that might be there with a higher roofline negated by an increase in width. The new design of BMW lights at the rear always accentuate width and sit here more stylishly than anywhere else. The front lights are perhaps less distinctive, but the (sensibly sized) kidney grilles ensure the identity is never in doubt, even if it many will point out it's not quite as stunning as the old four-door 6 Series. The 8 GC sits low, confident and assured, which will surely count for a lot in a sector that prioritises looks and luxury - if not, why not have an A6, E-Class, 5 Series or similar?


Actually, that's something of a disservice to the 8 Series, which is now pitched as a more opulent proposition than the 6 ever was - see the £70k starting price, for starters. But also look inside: the Gran Coupe is a vehicle of expensive materials and touches, waxy leathers and cool metals. The link with other BMWs is tangible, and may disappoint those with recent experience of the Panamera's more immediately delightful cabin, though there's easily sufficient wow factor here to elevate it. Imagine your house gets a TV makoever - you know what's in front of you, and much is recognisable, only everything is much nicer than before.

The 8 is a good mood car from the get-go, one you're only too happy to be behind the wheel of. Sadly, that impression doesn't last all that long on the road. The only model available to drive on launch was the 840i SDrive (like the two-door version, an 840d and M850i are also offered) which, to be frank, feels a bit limp initially. The 3.0-litre turbo straight-six does fine work in a 2 Series, 4 Series and Toyota Supra, but has a tough ask on its hands with the larger Gran Coupe. It never feels totally overawed, and is aided in its cause by the expertly calibrated gearbox - but there's an absence of the imperious, effortless motive force one might have hoped for.

Combine that with body control that's all awry - the 8 Series somehow floaty and crashy, sometimes in the same bend - and the allure created by the styling soon begins to ebb away. It feels like a 520d might be a better bet. It's all a little too reminiscent of the 435i once run on the PH Fleet, with damping that can't quite keep up and a general aloofness to the drive - it's bizarre. Other journalists suggested that two-door 8 Series on tyres that aren't the Bridgestone S007 felt better resolved, but it's a weird feeling.


Like every BMW for a good while now, the 8 Series Gran Coupe comes with drive modes - Eco Pro, Comfort, Sport - as well as an Individual setting and the Adaptive mode, which adjusts the car's behaviour in response to driving style and conditions. Furthermore, like many similarly configured BMWs, the 8 Series really needs the bespoke setting to bring out its best.

Aided by a better road surface later in the day, the Gran Coupe makes a lot more sense with its powertrain and dampers made more aggressive. Without losing sight of the more opulent remit, the 8 then feels more like a BMW; dynamic, confident and poised through direction changes. The Integral Active Steering is so well, er, integrated as to go largely unnoticed, the only tangible effects of having to make little steering effort and fine composure through long, sweeping bends. And while the engine never feels the most muscular - the diesel may well be the better bet - working through the intermediate gears at middling revs suits it seemingly much better than striving for every last bit of performance.

Then, of course, it's a motorway dream, smothering outside noise and murmuring along at next-to-no revs. Though it isn't quite a 7 Series, the Gran Coupe would surely prove a joy over longer distances - as you'd want it to.


From slightly inauspicious beginnings, then, the four-door 8 Series eventually leaves a pretty positive impression. The combination of style, luxury and driving engagement secure it the sort of appeal you would want - though perhaps not always expect - from a flagship BMW. Given the paucity of rear-seat space in a standard 8 Series Coupe, it's easy to see the appeal of a GC; you're going to end up with an enormous car anyway, so it surely makes sense to have one with proper carrying capacity. There's that 190mph M8 on the way, too...

Perhaps the bigger concern for the 8's prospective success is the sheer quality and variety of rivals. BMW cites the Panamera as the greatest foe, which may well drive a tad better, but there's also Mercedes-Benz and Audi to consider, both of which make competitive, desirable rivals in the CLS and A7 respectively. They're arguably less exclusive prospects, given there are four-cylinder CLSes and front-drive Audis available, though they shouldn't be discounted entirely. The point is that, while the BMW has proved itself more than worthy of consideration on this experience, it hasn't yet done enough to assert any authority as a class-leader of the four-door grand coupe niche. It's a familiar cop-out, sure, but the true test of the 8's abilities will be in the UK against its nearest competitors - all signs are it will be a close-run thing.


SPECIFICATION - BMW 840I GRAN COUPE
Engine:
2,998cc, straight-six turbo
Transmission: 8-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 340@5,000-6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 369@1,600-4,500rpm
0-62mph: 5.2 seconds (4.9)
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: 1,800kg (EU) (1,855kg)
MPG: 37.7 (36.2)
CO2: 168 g/km (179)
Price: £69,340

(Figures in brackets for xDrive)








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Discussion

TREMAiNE

Original Poster:

3,916 posts

149 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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I trend I really hate in the industry of late is 4 door versions of coupes that are unnecessary.
This isn't as big of an offender as others but the 4 series gran coupe is a 4 door version of the 2 door version of the 4 door 3 series... What's the point? Is that gap in the market really big enough to warrant so many different models? Same for 6 series etc.

Krikkit

26,523 posts

181 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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TREMAiNE said:
I trend I really hate in the industry of late is 4 door versions of coupes that are unnecessary.
This isn't as big of an offender as others but the 4 series gran coupe is a 4 door version of the 2 door version of the 4 door 3 series... What's the point? Is that gap in the market really big enough to warrant so many different models? Same for 6 series etc.
This is the one exception, as they've ruined the 7-series with that hideous, hideous face.

Speed addicted

5,574 posts

227 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Krikkit said:
TREMAiNE said:
I trend I really hate in the industry of late is 4 door versions of coupes that are unnecessary.
This isn't as big of an offender as others but the 4 series gran coupe is a 4 door version of the 2 door version of the 4 door 3 series... What's the point? Is that gap in the market really big enough to warrant so many different models? Same for 6 series etc.
This is the one exception, as they've ruined the 7-series with that hideous, hideous face.
I was in a BMW dealership the other day, for some reason all the cars are facing the door as you come in. It's not a pretty sight!

I've just bought a 4 series gran coupe, after much googling to try and work out the differences between models I bought the car I liked the look of the most. It's more practical than a 3 series saloon due to the hatchback, and better looking than the 3 series GT.
As to why they have so many versions of extremely similar cars I've no idea, I think it started with Audi and the rest followed.

The 8 series is a lovely thing, I just need it to depreciate a lot and it'll be a definite option!

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Bloody weird side profile.

smuj1972

24 posts

144 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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The original 8 series was a very pretty car - this however is an abomination

tim milne

344 posts

233 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Quite how the same company that, in deploying the concept of make-a-four-door-coupe-from-a-two-door-coupe-based-on-a-four-door-saloon, came up with models as exquisitely proportioned as the 4 and 6 series grand coupes, could have come up with this aberration beggars belief.

BMW used to have the tightest of design languages with a rigorous discipline that kept a familiar brand identity while allowing distinctive differences that you instantly knew one model from another. Now, it looks like they don't bother lining up any of the their other models when they start to design a new one. The rear end treatment of this and especially the C pillar and rear three quarter are epic in their inelegance.... but, why?

Is it that they're now designing cars that are so big that the scale itself seems to send them into a spin? Do they have a really small studio that prevents the designers from stepping back from their creations to see how awful they look? Or, are they desperately scrabbling around for a distinctive identity and so come up with a mishmash of shapes that just don't coalesce into anything coherent?

I think we should be told

aston addict

423 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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Jesus god Matt Bird are you poor sighted? Or do BMW bung you a bag full of cash to say this heap is handsome?

Actually, come to think of it, any connection between you and Birds BMW?!

What a pig ugly car with a low rent interior. The ONLY way BMW will shift these is by selling ‘em cheap.

As a previous poster said, it’s proportions are completely off, judging by the pictures.

I saw a new 8-something convertible by a car wash today. Hideous.

And I laugh every time I see a new X5/X6/X7. It’s like the owners have had a full frontal taste lobotomy.


Edited by aston addict on Thursday 26th September 05:56

Ninja59

3,691 posts

112 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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The concept was designed by a brit...how we ended up with this is anyone's guess.

My dealer has two coupes virtually going no where.

How far have bmw fallen since the 6GC...

StescoG66

2,116 posts

143 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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Am I alone in seeing a touch of Kia Stinger in that side profile. Kia by far the better looking car incidentally....

Craigybaby69

486 posts

131 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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Just ridiculously too large ... The rest is irrelevant to me.

Weekendrebuild

1,004 posts

63 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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Side profile is a little awkward from certain angles but generally quiet handsome car in my opinion . Happen to know these are selling very well pre orders etc
Definitely not a Kia stinger laugh

simonbamg

767 posts

123 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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lovely looking coupe, need a tad bigger wheels

mat205125

17,790 posts

213 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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Had an opportunity to drive the new 8 series in coupe and convertible body styles, and it's a hugely impressive bit of kit from behind the wheel.

Definitely a place to munch huge miles in single hits, at pace, and in comfort.

Sure this new GranCoupe is just as good from behind the wheel.

Big shame is that it just doesn't look that nice ..... The previous gen 6 series was a great looking car, and I don't know many with a bad word for the original 8 series. This is just a bit "meh!", and about 20% larger looking that it should be.

Chamon_Lee

3,792 posts

147 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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Absolute turd.
The fact it’s got a serious lack driving pleasure too is just a stab in the heart.

I am a big fan of the 4 door coupe segment but this is just a larger 5GT. The 6GC was and is an absolute beauty.

AmosMoses

4,041 posts

165 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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Knew I recognized the gear lever.



Edited by AmosMoses on Thursday 26th September 09:39

wab172uk

2,005 posts

227 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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Does anyone really need a car that big?

Ray_Aber

481 posts

276 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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I love the 6GC. It remains a beautiful car, with flowing elegant lines.

This isn't ugly, but the styling just isn't there for me. It's hard to pin down what I don't like, but the boot line seems to fall away, and the roof seems to have a kink as you move towards the rear. The Astramax van with dirty wheels colour scheme certainly doesn't help.

It's clumsy. Yes, that's the word. Clumsy. I'll continue to lust after the 6GC, whose interior is also far more stylish.

pSyCoSiS

3,594 posts

205 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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I really like the look of this, but I think the AMG GT 4 Door is better looking still and with a nicer interior.

It probably is very colour dependent - but the interior in the photos looks like it could just be a run of the mill 320d. Needs to be more 'special' for the kind of money being commanded.

lord trumpton

7,389 posts

126 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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Just way too big of a vehicle imho


E65Ross

35,068 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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TREMAiNE said:
I trend I really hate in the industry of late is 4 door versions of coupes that are unnecessary.
This isn't as big of an offender as others but the 4 series gran coupe is a 4 door version of the 2 door version of the 4 door 3 series... What's the point? Is that gap in the market really big enough to warrant so many different models? Same for 6 series etc.
Considering the amount of sales, I'd say that should answer your question. And why should this bother you? Is it a bad thing to have a bit more choice? Don't quite like a 3 series styling and prefer the 4GT? Well, get a 4GT then. I might be wrong, but I THINK the GT cars have a hatch style boot, so can be more practical than a saloon? But I can't remember exactly.

I can't see the problem with having more choice to be honest. Maybe we should all just have a Golf estate instead with 1 engine option.