RE: GT4-based McLaren 620R leaked | PH Scoop!

RE: GT4-based McLaren 620R leaked | PH Scoop!

Friday 11th October 2019

GT4-based McLaren 620R leaked | PH Scoop!

McLaren 600LT not hardcore enough for you? You'll be wanting a 620R then. Just pray you're on the short list...



GT4 racing is great. Precious few series boast the diversity of a GT4 grid - everything from a Cayman to a Camaro has a GT4 racer, Alpine A110 to Audi R8 - with close competition on some great tracks. The cars are accessible and tremendous fun to drive, too, providing you get the Paddock Hill braking point correct...

To make the most of this, and presumably to mark its recent success (the 570S GT4 has won the Scandinavian GT title, taken wins in British GT and triumphed in Pirelli GT4 America) McLaren has opted to blur the lines between race and road like never before and build a road-going GT4 car: the 620R, a forthcoming model variant leaked to PH by someone lucky enough to be near the top of a retailer's call sheet.

A first-rate relationship with your local McLaren dealer is going to be essential if the car had you at hello because the manufacturer's official response to PH's request for further information was succinct: "This is a car we are offering to select customers by invitation only." By 'select' it would probably help to have a 600LT already on the driveway (as our willing PHer does) and of course 'by invitation' means that the 620R will be neither cheap nor plentiful. Expect the car to be lower volume than the LT - and more expensive, too.


The return on investment, though, is likely to be significant. Even with just two pictures to go on, it's clear that McLaren has upped its track-focussed game when compared to the 600LT. Plainly this is a race car made road legal rather than a road car aimed at occasional track use. The aerodynamic package, most prominently the rear spoiler, front splitter, intake arrangement and diffuser, all migrate from the GT4. It wouldn't be a race car, even one for the road, without some front aero flics, either, which are present and correct just ahead of what looks like the same 18-inch magnesium wheels. See that new roof scoop, too, and the fact that the 620R forgoes the LT's direct-exit exhaust for the race car's configuration. It'll sound different, then. But presumably it'll be the transformative effect on the handling characteristics which will stand as the new model's defining feature.

At the risk of reading too much into a rendering, side-by-side comparison with the 600LT indicates that the 620R is notably lower than its sibling, suggesting that the car has probably earned the GT4's coilover springs and adjustable dampers - and potentially its wider track as well. Just how much of that new aero package is adjustable remains to be seen - obviously the race car can be adapted to meet the demands of an individual circuit. Carbon ceramic brakes are a near certainty, and tyre choice is likely to be extensive, too. McLaren has a proven history of doing such things properly when it really sets its mind to it.

It also has some history when it comes to redeploying the GT4's dramatic look. Fans of the brand may recall the MSO X, a run of ten 570S cars commissioned by McLaren Newport Beach in January of last year which exactly mimicked the racing car's appearance. Of course, that was more of styling exercise, but the stripped-out interior (pictured) at least gives some indication of where the manufacturer might have gone with the 620R's cabin. Certainly you can expect all non-essential items to have been jettisoned, and while the renderings suggest that McLaren has foregone the installation of a roll cage, even more carbon fibre is almost certain to feature, alongside bucket seats, six-point harnesses, track telemetry and (we're all hoping) a button-strewn new steering wheel.


Among the few things we can chalk up as absolute certainties is a power upgrade over the 600LT. Here the new model obviously diverges from the restricted GT4 racer; McLaren nomenclature rules dictate that it is a 620hp car, making it the most powerful Sports Series variant yet. Given its positioning in what is now a five-year-old life cycle, and its anticipated introduction early next year, that may very well mean that it is intended as a farewell to the 570S generation. Appropriate, then, that McLaren has chosen a previously unused designation for it.

The 'R' classification would appear to signify a previously untapped relationship between race and road car. McLaren has turned road cars into track machines before - most recently with the Senna GTR - but has typically left it to aftermarket tuners to transform its circuit-only creations back to road-legal status. The 620R's introduction seems to signal a new determination to take this process in-house; particularly if the firm is responding to customer demand for something even more extreme following the arrival of the 600LT.

With production of the coupe gradually winding up - only the Spider is still available to order - it's plausible that buyers of the Longtail might feel somewhat shortchanged by the introduction of what is virtually guaranteed to be a quicker model - hence the strictly limited status of the 620R's production run and the early push by retailers. The latter will feel like they know the names of anyone longing to extract yet more performance from what is already a terrifically fast car - and will have lined up their allocation accordingly. Lucky for some, eh? We look forward to finding out just how lucky as the model's technical specification - and final price - are revealed in the coming weeks. And for anyone who's phone hasn't been ringing off the hook, we humbly direct your attention here and here. No pre-qualification needed.


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dave_Sw1

Original Poster:

243 posts

218 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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with the current state of the super car market, I shouldn't think making the short list will be the worry, its how to deal with 50-80k year one depreciation thats the issue

DB77

207 posts

147 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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Well that looks awesome. Love the roof scoop and front splitter. Interesting they haven’t used the 600’s top-exit exhaust.

How long before someone complains about McLaren launching another model....? Quick answer: don’t buy one if you don’t want one (but rest assured you are missing out on a set of fantastic cars).

thelostboy

4,566 posts

225 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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DB77 said:
Well that looks awesome. Love the roof scoop and front splitter. Interesting they haven’t used the 600’s top-exit exhaust.

How long before someone complains about McLaren launching another model....? Quick answer: don’t buy one if you don’t want one (but rest assured you are missing out on a set of fantastic cars).
You say that, but this is clearly them trying to make a quick buck out of a parts bin special. With a bit of PR, it comes an exclusive, strictly limited special...

But yeah. Another day, another McLaren. Sort out the reliability, rust and fires first, etc.

MDL111

6,910 posts

177 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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Where does the roof scoop lead to - looks a bit weird on my phone?

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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McLotus

Krikkit

26,512 posts

181 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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MDL111 said:
Where does the roof scoop lead to - looks a bit weird on my phone?
Nowhere (well, possibly inside the cabin), it's a quick and dirty photoshop job to put it on. I assume the finished article will have a functional one though. Not that the GT4 racer features one of course, doesn't need it.

D4rez

1,379 posts

56 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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thelostboy said:
DB77 said:
Well that looks awesome. Love the roof scoop and front splitter. Interesting they haven’t used the 600’s top-exit exhaust.

How long before someone complains about McLaren launching another model....? Quick answer: don’t buy one if you don’t want one (but rest assured you are missing out on a set of fantastic cars).
You say that, but this is clearly them trying to make a quick buck out of a parts bin special. With a bit of PR, it comes an exclusive, strictly limited special...

But yeah. Another day, another McLaren. Sort out the reliability, rust and fires first, etc.
Neither as cheap nor as easy as you suggest I suspect and definitely no different to a GT3RS, GT2RS, Porsche GT2RS clubsport, 935 etc etc. Different components can change the way a car feels significantly as I’m sure you know first hand ...

housen

2,366 posts

192 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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leaked ????

pah ....hardly the scoop of the century

WCZ

10,513 posts

194 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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the question is can it actually do decent lap times?

the senna got absolutely mauled on track by a 650s gt3, despite having big aero and hundreds more bhp

you'd be better off just buying a second hard gt3/4 (like the one for £140k in the link) and making it road legal

isaldiri

18,486 posts

168 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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PH said:
Plainly this is a race car made road legal rather than a road car aimed at occasional track use.
I'll believe that when I see it. It would be daft to have an expensive limited road car meant purely for the track given it would do the job (ie actually being driven on track) far less well than an actual 570 GT4 race car in all respects.

Far more likely to be a further tuned up and tweaked 600LT (which already is an excellent car) imo instead of all this race car made road legal marketing BS.

DMC2

1,830 posts

211 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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'By invitation'. Lol, no doubt McLaren will be churning these out like every other model?!

MDL111

6,910 posts

177 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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Krikkit said:
MDL111 said:
Where does the roof scoop lead to - looks a bit weird on my phone?
Nowhere (well, possibly inside the cabin), it's a quick and dirty photoshop job to put it on. I assume the finished article will have a functional one though. Not that the GT4 racer features one of course, doesn't need it.
Ah makes more sense then - should use bigger screen to look at stuff

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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Having seen this I think the R badge is more in keeping with the Mclaren ethos than the LT badge.

Needs to be not limited, fantastic as is the Cayman GT4 on the road, and just balls out.


620R .. even the name is short and to the point.

I've been a bit "seen it all before" with Mclaren of late, but this is something that takes the game on.


av185

18,497 posts

127 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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Wonder how many with an invite will refuse. rolleyes

BFleming

3,593 posts

143 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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Krikkit said:
MDL111 said:
Where does the roof scoop lead to - looks a bit weird on my phone?
Nowhere (well, possibly inside the cabin), it's a quick and dirty photoshop job to put it on. I assume the finished article will have a functional one though. Not that the GT4 racer features one of course, doesn't need it.
I'm not sure. You look at the MSO 600LT roof scoop and externally it looks like it doesn't do much.


But look inside the car...


The induction roar in the cabin is supposed to be phenomenal.

BelfastBoy

779 posts

160 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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Gandahar said:
Having seen this I think the R badge is more in keeping with the Mclaren ethos than the LT badge
I've always found the 'LT' thing a bit irritating, and a silly attempt at cashing in some of the proper mystique of the McLaren F1. The F1 GT longtails were genuinely that, visually very different from the original road car / GTR racer. I know that technically the modern LTs are longer than the base models, but hardly enough to justify the Longtail name.

indapendentlee

401 posts

99 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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BelfastBoy said:
Gandahar said:
Having seen this I think the R badge is more in keeping with the Mclaren ethos than the LT badge
I've always found the 'LT' thing a bit irritating, and a silly attempt at cashing in some of the proper mystique of the McLaren F1. The F1 GT longtails were genuinely that, visually very different from the original road car / GTR racer. I know that technically the modern LTs are longer than the base models, but hardly enough to justify the Longtail name.
Do you also find it irritating that Porsche call their sportier versions GT2/3/4 because they aren't literally GT2/3/4 race cars?

Chester35

505 posts

55 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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indapendentlee said:
BelfastBoy said:
Gandahar said:
Having seen this I think the R badge is more in keeping with the Mclaren ethos than the LT badge
I've always found the 'LT' thing a bit irritating, and a silly attempt at cashing in some of the proper mystique of the McLaren F1. The F1 GT longtails were genuinely that, visually very different from the original road car / GTR racer. I know that technically the modern LTs are longer than the base models, but hardly enough to justify the Longtail name.
Do you also find it irritating that Porsche call their sportier versions GT2/3/4 because they aren't literally GT2/3/4 race cars?
The Long Tail F1 was designed to help at Le Mans. Due to aero changes. As mentioned it was visibly different and had a reason.

None of the current Mclaren cars have a long tail to help with aero. Apart from one. It's called the Speedtail.

Any thoughts on that? Or are you going to start mentioning Porsche again when not relevant to the discussion?



Macboy

739 posts

205 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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MDL111 said:
Where does the roof scoop lead to - looks a bit weird on my phone?
It's a finance option. You can pay down depreciation every day by sliding a thick wad of twenties into the scoop to be collected in a bespoke MSO carbon fibre safe behind the engine.

HighwayStar

4,245 posts

144 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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Chester35 said:
indapendentlee said:
BelfastBoy said:
Gandahar said:
Having seen this I think the R badge is more in keeping with the Mclaren ethos than the LT badge
I've always found the 'LT' thing a bit irritating, and a silly attempt at cashing in some of the proper mystique of the McLaren F1. The F1 GT longtails were genuinely that, visually very different from the original road car / GTR racer. I know that technically the modern LTs are longer than the base models, but hardly enough to justify the Longtail name.
Do you also find it irritating that Porsche call their sportier versions GT2/3/4 because they aren't literally GT2/3/4 race cars?
The Long Tail F1 was designed to help at Le Mans. Due to aero changes. As mentioned it was visibly different and had a reason.

None of the current Mclaren cars have a long tail to help with aero. Apart from one. It's called the Speedtail.

Any thoughts on that? Or are you going to start mentioning Porsche again when not relevant to the discussion?
That was then, this now... it might be a tenuous link but today it's applied to their track focused production car... that's basically what LT is associated with now. I knew the history behind the LT name but personally I'm not fussed that the road cars are not true Long Tails.
I'd imagine if the 600 & 675 LT's were proper Long Tails many would be saying it's road car, it looks wrong blah blah