RE: BTCC 2019 finale | Time for Coffee

RE: BTCC 2019 finale | Time for Coffee

Monday 14th October 2019

BTCC 2019 finale | Time for Coffee?

If you've not caught up with yesterday's Brands Hatch drama, best get the kettle on...



Anybody who reckons modern British touring cars lacks drama should watch yesterday's final races from Brands Hatch. There were thrills and spills, shocks and scraps and, um, scintillating racing. At the end of it all, the BTCC champion for 2019 was... well, we won't spoil it just yet, for those that don't know.

The day began with Colin Turkington leading the way on 297 points, Dan Cammish in second on 281, Andrew Jordan just a point further back, then Josh Cook and Tom Ingram on 263 and 236 points respectively.

The first race could hardly have gone better for Dan Cammish, who took the lead in a spectacular move around the outside of Paddock Hill Bend and stayed there for the win. With teammate Matt Neal in second and reigning champion Turkington only mustering a fifth-place finish, the gap had been closed.


Round 29 saw Turkington's superb start - leaping from fifth to second - squandered as he spun at Graham Hill Bend. The Northern Irishman would eventually finish 25th, with Cammish keeping his Civic Type R out of trouble and securing a third place - it was all to play for going into the final round.

Following a door-to-door battle with Turkington, Dan Cammish suffered brake failure around the back of the Brands GP circuit, careering into the tyres at Hawthorns. The Team Dynamics driver tweeted: "Wasn't to be but I can hold my head high."

That sort of settled the title, then, but it wasn't the end of the drama. With Andrew Jordan having finished fourth, following second in round 29, ended up level on points with Cammish on 318 - just two off the championship itself. It was some finale, with Turkington now a four-time champion, the best bits of which can be watched below. If next season can match 2019's championship, we're in for another vintage year of BTCC.

 

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V8 FOU

Original Poster:

2,974 posts

147 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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And Plato won round 30. Why no mention of his first win this season and his 97th career win?

Make that 98th win.........

Edited by V8 FOU on Monday 14th October 11:14

griffsomething

236 posts

161 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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Gripping and exciting racing but Turkington didn't just 'spin' on his own doing, he was driven into by Cammish's teammate, Matt Neal.

thelostboy

4,569 posts

225 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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griffsomething said:
Gripping and exciting racing but Turkington didn't just 'spin' on his own doing, he was driven into by Cammish's teammate, Matt Neal.
Yep, I hate to get drawn into the pantomime of it all, but Neal is such a moaner when things don't go his way and yet this was clearly a deliberate act.

I actually think he did the right thing; he took one for the team in same way a footballer might take a player down and take a red card in an attempt to prevent a sure-fire goal. But what you can't do is blissfully ignore that, and then carry on moaning when things don't go your way.

I'm glad it worked out for Turkington (although, poor Cammish...) in the end, but that would have been a travesty if he was left far out of the running after clearly been taken out.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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I don't see it the same way as you guys. There was a gap, Matt moved to the inside (and up the kerb) to try and overtake and Colin turned in on him. Colin obviously didn't see him, but his movement caused the contact. I didn't see a deliberate ram, Colin left the door slightly ajar. I think Matt's penalty is very harsh - this isn't a knitting competition! It was a race and Matt was trying to get ahead.

I know the organisers are clamping down on driving standards, particularly push-to-pass contact, but this seems to indicate if the driver in front fails to see an attempted overtake manoeuvre then it's the car behind's fault. Madness!

bigbadbikercats

634 posts

208 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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V8 FOU said:
And Plato won round 30. Why no mention of his first win this season and his 97th career win?

Make that 98th win.........

Edited by V8 FOU on Monday 14th October 11:14
For that matter I’d have thought that some decent results from PH member and regular poster Ollie “The Wookie” Jackson would have rated a mention!

marcosgt

11,019 posts

176 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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thelostboy said:
griffsomething said:
Gripping and exciting racing but Turkington didn't just 'spin' on his own doing, he was driven into by Cammish's teammate, Matt Neal.
Yep, I hate to get drawn into the pantomime of it all, but Neal is such a moaner when things don't go his way and yet this was clearly a deliberate act.
Absolutely - Everyone is an idiot if he gets bumped into, but when he does it, it's all fair...

I've never been a big fan of Neal, but my respect for him went the same way as mine for Frank Biella and Steve Soper (which really hurt me at the time) yesterday.

You had to feel some sympathy for Cammish, but I think the result was the right one in the end, especially as Turkington drove so hard in race 3.

Twinfan said:
I didn't see a deliberate ram, Colin left the door slightly ajar.
Yes, but Neal clearly used more force to open the door than he would have with other drivers - He just rammed Turkington.

I'm sure the organisers have telemetry and such like, which we don't and they thought it unfair, so I'm going to stick to my original belief than Neal decided to help his teammate in a very unsportsmanslike manner.

Yes, it's top level motor racing, but it's not banger racing...

Whatever you thought of the results, though, it was certainly dramatic!

M

Edited by marcosgt on Monday 14th October 13:24

thelostboy

4,569 posts

225 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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Twinfan said:
I don't see it the same way as you guys. There was a gap, Matt moved to the inside (and up the kerb) to try and overtake and Colin turned in on him. Colin obviously didn't see him, but his movement caused the contact. I didn't see a deliberate ram, Colin left the door slightly ajar. I think Matt's penalty is very harsh - this isn't a knitting competition! It was a race and Matt was trying to get ahead.

I know the organisers are clamping down on driving standards, particularly push-to-pass contact, but this seems to indicate if the driver in front fails to see an attempted overtake manoeuvre then it's the car behind's fault. Madness!
I don't mean to sound patronising, but as a racer and with Brands Hatch being my local circuit, that move was never on.

The approach to Graham Hill Bend is at an angle, and it narrows on you. There simply isn't space for multiple cars at the bottom of the hill. It's therefore not an overtaking corner with evenly matched cars - instead you try and disrupt someone's line enough to cut back on them down Cooper Straight because they have either missed the apex, or run wide onto the bumpy exit kerbs whilst under pressure.

Moreover, the conditions were wet, and conventional wet lines (especially at Graham Hill) dictate the inside line would have less grip.

Matt is very experienced. He knew exactly what he was doing, and so did the stewards - hence the penalty points.



Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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Fair enough. I just thought he was moving in for a block pass smile

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

205 months

PH Reportery Lad

Monday 14th October 2019
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Robmarriott

2,638 posts

158 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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V8 FOU said:
And Plato won round 30. Why no mention of his first win this season and his 97th career win?

Make that 98th win.........

Edited by V8 FOU on Monday 14th October 11:14
When JP was interviewed post race, I half expected him to say ‘oh, it doesn’t matter, this race isn’t about me!’. It simply wasn’t part of the drama and excitement.

ScoobyBullet

7 posts

161 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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BTCC is just posh banger racing now. Gave up on it some time ago for that reason and the cars are just whining little things with decent corner speed. Just watch the Aussie V8 Supercars series on TV for real saloon racing. Powerful cars, great, hard racing and fantastically informed commentary...

The Wookie

13,946 posts

228 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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p4cks

6,909 posts

199 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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In all of the drama in the Touring Car races today I'd like to say commiserations to Max Coates in the Clio Cup Championship. Pretty much the same scenario as Turkington (leading the championship going in to the final circuit, his to lose etc, punted off) but with not such a similar result as Turks frown

Hard luck Max, will be keeping an eye on your next move for next season

therealsamdailly

328 posts

63 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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the final race was properly theatrical, the atmosphere was great and whoever you were backing it was a hell of a race


thelostboy

4,569 posts

225 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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therealsamdailly said:
the final race was properly theatrical, the atmosphere was great and whoever you were backing it was a hell of a race
Yep, fair to say I had fallen out of love with BTCC but that was a pretty epic finale.