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Noble M12 Overall Dimensions:-
Length 4089mm
Width (inc.mirrors) 1885mm
Height 1143mm
Wheelbase 2438mm
Max/min legroom 1120/980mm
Headroom 930mm
Interior width 11360mm
Kerbweight 1050kg
Parts and Part Numbers
Air Filters (for 2.5l) are K&N R -1380
see
http://www.filterpower.co.uk
and
https://secure3.easyspace.com/www.filterpower.co.u...
Headlamps GTO / GTO3 - 5 3/4" Headlamp, main/dip/side. Cibie p/n:8482371.
See:- http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?p=8482371&a=...
OilFactory recommends Shell Helix Ultra 5W/40 Fully synthetic. Also Mobil 1
recommended by some tuners/racers.
Oil Filter (Ford) Part no. 4628534
Sump Plug (2002 M12 GTO) (Ford) Part no 3051079 (12mm) 4.44 incl VAT.
Spark Plugs Motorcraft AGSF32WM/4 527 158 -40thou gap
NGK BR7EFS as recommended by Yellowshed gapped to 0.025" or 0.65mm
Fuel Filter-
Sytec Motorsport Bullet (15mm in/out)
See:- http://www.fuelsystem.co.uk/filters.pdf
Fuel Pump M400 - Bosch 0 580 254 979
Lambda Sensors Part numbers
1001702, 96BB - 9F472 - BA - Ford Cougar V6 Lambda, SENSOR Assy C85432, D4 (WP), Ford Cougar V6 Lambda Available from Ford.
Coolant Fan Switch
Intermotor - part number 50173
Battery - type 075
Rear Hub nuts- Improvement over standard part (which can become loose)
P999.084.641.02 LOCK NUT (Porsche Boxter part)
Wheel Nuts - M12x1.5mm pitch with a 60 degree seat and a 19mm A/F hex
ECU M400 - MBE 975D
Others .... please add one way valve in the overflow petrol tank pipe - part no is89f8 - 9a 153 - ab 8z02a,it does not show on the parts computer but is listed under ford escort zetec 150 ps
3R Headlight units all items are Hella main beam/sidelight unit 1KO 008 191 - 00HR - 2 12,5 04 HR
main driving lamp (projector) 1BL 008 193 - 00HC - 6 04 HC
Alternator belt According to Noble Parts, the Gates 6PK 1708 belt is the correct one
6PK 1705 (6 ribs 1705 long)
6PK 1700 (also fits fine and cured squeak on M400)
6PK 1238 for cars with air - con removed AND Daddysumo's smaller crank pulley fitted,
available from any motor factors.
Crank pulley bolt is torqued to yield and should be replaced. Part number Ford 3675106.
Tighten in 4 stages - 120Nm, release 360 degrees, 50Nm, tighten 90 degrees.
Water Pump Belt Motorcraft 5L8E - 8K543 - AA Finis Code 59X28DO5 Part No 4513849
Reversing Light Switch3R 6 Speed gearbox - Ford Part No. 1444282 Switch Assembly, Mondeo ST220 from about Mar 2003 onwards
Suspension Torque Settings
FRONT SUSPENSION Torque setting
Upper & lower A - Arm inner bushes 140 Nm 103 lbft
Upper A - arm outer ball joint mounting block to upright (Loctite 243) 60 Nm 44 lbft
Upper A - Arm outer ball joint 60 Nm 44 lbft
Lower A - Arm outer ball joint 60 Nm 44 lbft
Wheel bearing bolt - end nyloc nut 220 Nm 162 lbft
Shock mountings, upper & lower 100 Nm 74 lbft
Tie rod ends to upright 60 Nm 44 lbft
REAR SUSPENSION Torque setting
Upper A - Arm inner bushes 140 Nm 103 lbft
Upper A - Arm outer ball joint 60 Nm 44 lbft
Lower A - Arm inner front bush 140 Nm 103 lbft
Lower A - Arm inner rear bush & inner track rod joint 140 Nm 103 lbft
Lower A - Arm outer bush & outer track rod joint 140 Nm 103 lbft
Shock mountings, upper & lower 100 Nm 74 lbft
BRAKES Torque setting
Front & rear caliper mtg bolts + Loctite 243 60Nm 44 lbft
Front disk - bell, retaining bolts (use AP Mtg.kit) 14Nm 10lbft
DIFFERENTIAL & GEARBOX
Standard 5 - speed box: MTX - 75
Quaife ATB LSD for standard 5 - speed: QDF20Z
Standard 6 speed gearbox MMT6 Getrag unit (derived from ST220 only for correct ratios)
Quaife ATB LSD 6 speed part No:QDF41Z
Tel: 0845 1307400, http://www.quaife.co.uk/Ford-Contour-USA (this link needs updating)
Fidanza Aluminium Flywheel for 5 Speed MTX - 75 box - Part Number - 186251
Fidanza Aluminium Flywheel for 6 Speed MMT6 Box - Part Number - 186251
[ Supplier:- www.ultrarev.com]
Ball joint front lower opel made by firstline part no FBJ5030
Top ball joints front and rear GT03 32mm dia hole in alloy block part no wheel hub febi/bilstein 19090 ford pkw
Bearing SKF VKBA3575
All parts purchased from Andrew Page ltd .01733 340177 speak to Paul Kendle
Paint Codes
Azure Blue - CHRSBE - Chrysler paint PPG paint system.
Formula is:-
D763 828 grams
D776 1352 grams
D754 1610 grams
D755 1808 grams
D753 1875.2 grams
D752 1934.6 grams
This will make 2 litres
Mallory Green - PPG paint system
Formula is:-
D797 1157.6
D740 1376.0
D754 1569.6
D770 1722.8
D742 1853.4
D759 1909.8
This will make 2 litres
Technical questions
Air - Con What's the recharge weight of refrigerant needed?
Noble state:- 1KG but 950g has been suggested by a few people. Lubricant is PAG oil ISO 100
Hub nuts. What's the Porsche part number?
P999.084.641.02 LOCK NUT. It's a Boxter part and costs under 3+vat. You do not need to drill the hub, it will be fine as is. Hub nuts only needed for the rear of the car, the front nuts are a different size and do not work loose anyway.
Tyre Pressures What are the recommended pressures for M12 and M400?
M12 - Front: 18psi Rear : 27psi
M400 - Front: 20psi Rear: 30psi
Torque settings
Wheel bearing: 270Nm
Wheel nut: 130Nm 95 ft/lb
Brake Disks
Standard disks are drilled. Slotted or groved disks provide a better "feel" and are generally easy to modulate. They also cope with heat better than drilled version and are more resistant to cracking.
Slotted AP discs are available from Plans Motorsport and main dealers. The rear disks are also now available for the M400/3R/3. Slotted/grooved discs are available for the rears on 2.5L cars.
AP330 Front Grooved Disc LH
AP330 Front Grooved Disc RH
These are genuine AP discs AP Part Number CP3580 - 1131/0 - CR8 - usual retail price 253.28 inc VAT plus shipping each.
CP2494 - 18 Bell fitting kit
These discs are a straight swap for the standard discs and are an easy DIY fit.
Front discs (grooved AP Racing) come as rotors only, and you need to get fitting kit to attach them to the bell (12 nuts/bold for each side).
Removal of old nuts/bolts may be problematic as they tend to weld together with the heat.
Note that you need 3/16AF Allen key for the bolts (Latest ones use torx heads so you need a female torx socket). The torque for the bolts is 11 lbs/ft or 14 Nm
Bedding - in procedure for new discs (note:- use old pads) from AP Racing site below
http://www.apracing.com/info/info.asp?section=Disc...
Brake Pads
Standard pads are ???
Optional pads in order of hardness are
Please feel free to add commonly asked questions to this Wiki, it's here for the purposes
of sharing info. Please add away but be careful it's easy to screw up!...
Noble M12 Overall Dimensions:-
Length 4089mm
Width (inc.mirrors) 1885mm
Height 1143mm
Wheelbase 2438mm
Max/min legroom 1120/980mm
Headroom 930mm
Interior width 11360mm
Kerbweight 1050kg
Parts and Part Numbers
Air Filters (for 2.5l) are K&N R -1380
see
http://www.filterpower.co.uk
and
https://secure3.easyspace.com/www.filterpower.co.u...
Headlamps GTO / GTO3 - 5 3/4" Headlamp, main/dip/side. Cibie p/n:8482371.
See:- http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?p=8482371&a=...
OilFactory recommends Shell Helix Ultra 5W/40 Fully synthetic. Also Mobil 1
recommended by some tuners/racers.
Oil Filter (Ford) Part no. 4628534
Sump Plug (2002 M12 GTO) (Ford) Part no 3051079 (12mm) 4.44 incl VAT.
Spark Plugs Motorcraft AGSF32WM/4 527 158 -40thou gap
NGK BR7EFS as recommended by Yellowshed gapped to 0.025" or 0.65mm
Fuel Filter-
Sytec Motorsport Bullet (15mm in/out)
See:- http://www.fuelsystem.co.uk/filters.pdf
Fuel Pump M400 - Bosch 0 580 254 979
Lambda Sensors Part numbers
1001702, 96BB - 9F472 - BA - Ford Cougar V6 Lambda, SENSOR Assy C85432, D4 (WP), Ford Cougar V6 Lambda Available from Ford.
Coolant Fan Switch
Intermotor - part number 50173
Battery - type 075
Rear Hub nuts- Improvement over standard part (which can become loose)
P999.084.641.02 LOCK NUT (Porsche Boxter part)
Wheel Nuts - M12x1.5mm pitch with a 60 degree seat and a 19mm A/F hex
ECU M400 - MBE 975D
Others .... please add one way valve in the overflow petrol tank pipe - part no is89f8 - 9a 153 - ab 8z02a,it does not show on the parts computer but is listed under ford escort zetec 150 ps
3R Headlight units all items are Hella main beam/sidelight unit 1KO 008 191 - 00HR - 2 12,5 04 HR
main driving lamp (projector) 1BL 008 193 - 00HC - 6 04 HC
Alternator belt According to Noble Parts, the Gates 6PK 1708 belt is the correct one
6PK 1705 (6 ribs 1705 long)
6PK 1700 (also fits fine and cured squeak on M400)
6PK 1238 for cars with air - con removed AND Daddysumo's smaller crank pulley fitted,
available from any motor factors.
Crank pulley bolt is torqued to yield and should be replaced. Part number Ford 3675106.
Tighten in 4 stages - 120Nm, release 360 degrees, 50Nm, tighten 90 degrees.
Water Pump Belt Motorcraft 5L8E - 8K543 - AA Finis Code 59X28DO5 Part No 4513849
Reversing Light Switch3R 6 Speed gearbox - Ford Part No. 1444282 Switch Assembly, Mondeo ST220 from about Mar 2003 onwards
Suspension Torque Settings
FRONT SUSPENSION Torque setting
Upper & lower A - Arm inner bushes 140 Nm 103 lbft
Upper A - arm outer ball joint mounting block to upright (Loctite 243) 60 Nm 44 lbft
Upper A - Arm outer ball joint 60 Nm 44 lbft
Lower A - Arm outer ball joint 60 Nm 44 lbft
Wheel bearing bolt - end nyloc nut 220 Nm 162 lbft
Shock mountings, upper & lower 100 Nm 74 lbft
Tie rod ends to upright 60 Nm 44 lbft
REAR SUSPENSION Torque setting
Upper A - Arm inner bushes 140 Nm 103 lbft
Upper A - Arm outer ball joint 60 Nm 44 lbft
Lower A - Arm inner front bush 140 Nm 103 lbft
Lower A - Arm inner rear bush & inner track rod joint 140 Nm 103 lbft
Lower A - Arm outer bush & outer track rod joint 140 Nm 103 lbft
Shock mountings, upper & lower 100 Nm 74 lbft
BRAKES Torque setting
Front & rear caliper mtg bolts + Loctite 243 60Nm 44 lbft
Front disk - bell, retaining bolts (use AP Mtg.kit) 14Nm 10lbft
DIFFERENTIAL & GEARBOX
Standard 5 - speed box: MTX - 75
Quaife ATB LSD for standard 5 - speed: QDF20Z
Standard 6 speed gearbox MMT6 Getrag unit (derived from ST220 only for correct ratios)
Quaife ATB LSD 6 speed part No:QDF41Z
Tel: 0845 1307400, http://www.quaife.co.uk/Ford-Contour-USA (this link needs updating)
Fidanza Aluminium Flywheel for 5 Speed MTX - 75 box - Part Number - 186251
Fidanza Aluminium Flywheel for 6 Speed MMT6 Box - Part Number - 186251
[ Supplier:- www.ultrarev.com]
Ball joint front lower opel made by firstline part no FBJ5030
Top ball joints front and rear GT03 32mm dia hole in alloy block part no wheel hub febi/bilstein 19090 ford pkw
Bearing SKF VKBA3575
All parts purchased from Andrew Page ltd .01733 340177 speak to Paul Kendle
Paint Codes
Azure Blue - CHRSBE - Chrysler paint PPG paint system.
Formula is:-
D763 828 grams
D776 1352 grams
D754 1610 grams
D755 1808 grams
D753 1875.2 grams
D752 1934.6 grams
This will make 2 litres
Mallory Green - PPG paint system
Formula is:-
D797 1157.6
D740 1376.0
D754 1569.6
D770 1722.8
D742 1853.4
D759 1909.8
This will make 2 litres
Technical questions
Air - Con What's the recharge weight of refrigerant needed?
Noble state:- 1KG but 950g has been suggested by a few people. Lubricant is PAG oil ISO 100
Hub nuts. What's the Porsche part number?
P999.084.641.02 LOCK NUT. It's a Boxter part and costs under 3+vat. You do not need to drill the hub, it will be fine as is. Hub nuts only needed for the rear of the car, the front nuts are a different size and do not work loose anyway.
Tyre Pressures What are the recommended pressures for M12 and M400?
M12 - Front: 18psi Rear : 27psi
M400 - Front: 20psi Rear: 30psi
Torque settings
Wheel bearing: 270Nm
Wheel nut: 130Nm 95 ft/lb
Brake Disks
Standard disks are drilled. Slotted or groved disks provide a better "feel" and are generally easy to modulate. They also cope with heat better than drilled version and are more resistant to cracking.
Slotted AP discs are available from Plans Motorsport and main dealers. The rear disks are also now available for the M400/3R/3. Slotted/grooved discs are available for the rears on 2.5L cars.
AP330 Front Grooved Disc LH
AP330 Front Grooved Disc RH
These are genuine AP discs AP Part Number CP3580 - 1131/0 - CR8 - usual retail price 253.28 inc VAT plus shipping each.
CP2494 - 18 Bell fitting kit
These discs are a straight swap for the standard discs and are an easy DIY fit.
Front discs (grooved AP Racing) come as rotors only, and you need to get fitting kit to attach them to the bell (12 nuts/bold for each side).
Removal of old nuts/bolts may be problematic as they tend to weld together with the heat.
Note that you need 3/16AF Allen key for the bolts (Latest ones use torx heads so you need a female torx socket). The torque for the bolts is 11 lbs/ft or 14 Nm
Bedding - in procedure for new discs (note:- use old pads) from AP Racing site below
http://www.apracing.com/info/info.asp?section=Disc...
Brake Pads
Standard pads are ???
Optional pads in order of hardness are