RE: BMW M5 Touring (E34) | Spotted

RE: BMW M5 Touring (E34) | Spotted

Thursday 7th November

BMW M5 Touring (E34) | Spotted

Name a more desirable fast estate car. We'll wait...



You may have seen the BMW M2 CS story already; you may, like us, be tremendously excited by the idea. Cost notwithstanding, the thought of an M2 Competition made even better is surely one to get PHers everywhere just a little more animated.

Why? Because it ticks so many of the traditional M car boxes, the criteria through which so many of us came to know and love the very fastest BMWs. It's a small(ish), two-door sort-of-saloon, sort-of-coupe, like the early two-door 3 Series; it has a 3.0-litre straight-six, like an E36 M3, it powers the rear wheels like all of your favourite M cars, and it's offered with a manual gearbox. And does your favourite M car ever have a manual gearbox? Exactly.

So, inevitably, we've been thinking about iconic M cars from the classifieds. Because you would, right? And although the E34 M5 3.8 Touring may not be the most revered of the M cars, its unicorn status in the UK certainly makes it one of the most desirable. Today's Spotted in particular.


But more on that in a second. First let's discuss BMW M's bizarre relationship with the fast estate. Because there's no doubt that, once upon a time, they were very keen on the idea: as well as the two generations of M5 Touring, a stunning E46 M3 Touring Concept was made, as was an E39-era M wagon. Now, however, more than a decade has passed since the last one, and the rise of the SUV has surely put paid to any future estates. Yet it can't have escaped the attention of anyone in Munich that both Audi and Mercedes have persevered the format - enjoying great cult and commercial success along the way - as well as burrowing into the niche of performance SUVs. They're not mutually exclusive, basically, the fast SUV and the fast estate, so maybe there's a future for BMW to do both.

Until then, it's the old ones we'll focus on. This particular E34 Touring was sold new in Germany, first reaching the UK in 1997 - personally imported by the dealer now selling it more than 20 years later. In fact, the Sterling Silver M5 has been with the same UK owner since the 1990s, meaning whoever buys it next will be just its fourth keeper. Furthermore, over the past quarter of a century and 110,000 miles, this M5 looks to have been beautifully cared for: it's been garaged the whole time it's been in the UK, never driven in adverse conditions and has survived with all of its original, unrusty panels. As mentioned in the advert, these were very cheap cars not so long ago - remember the 3.6 Shed? - and so seeing one that's lived up till now in such fine fettle is a real pleasure.


Of course, it's not quite perfect. But the fact that the dealer mentions such an in-depth list of remedial work to be actioned post sale suggests this M5 is a little more special to them than most stock. And would you believe it, at Β£50,000 it's more affordable than the last E34 Touring we featured, two years ago and with more miles. So it's good value as well. Kind of.

Alright, the pool of prospective customers for this car, a fairly dowdy BMW estate from the early 1990s that costs as much as a new M2, will be pretty small. But for those who get it, those invested in classic M car cool, what an opportunity this M5 is. That CS just became the second-most interesting straight-six BMW on PH this week...


SPECIFICATION - BMW M5 TOURING (E34)
Engine:
3,795cc straight-six
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive, LSD
Power (hp): 347@6,900rpm
Torque (lb ft): 295@4,750rpm
MPG: Less than a new one
CO2: More than a new one
First registered: 1992
Recorded mileage: 110,000
Price new: Costly
Yours for: Β£49,000

See the original advert here.

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GTEYE

Original Poster:

1,442 posts

157 months

Thursday 7th November
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Not cheap but looks a good example. The seller used to be the proprietor of Munich Legends, so whilst the price may not be cheap, I wouldn’t doubt the thoroughness of preparation/inspection on the car.

g3org3y

14,157 posts

138 months

Thursday 7th November
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Back when BMWs were special. cool

SidewaysSi

5,984 posts

181 months

Thursday 7th November
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What a special car and special interior

chelme

679 posts

117 months

Thursday 7th November
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Over priced. There is another one trader wanting 64k. They are nice looking cars however the one at 64k has been waiting for nearly a year.

Traders seem to be in denial. The market has been changing and it is not what it was in 2015/16. The 'modern classics' has become predominantly a hollow fad, with only the authentic motorsport homologation specials holding their prices. Others? We are seeing significant drops.

Black S2K

895 posts

196 months

Thursday 7th November
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g3org3y said:
Back when BMWs were special. cool
That example is a class one.

There's barely any modern cars one could describe as such.

British Beef

1,230 posts

112 months

Thursday 7th November
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I actually had a dream about owning one of these the other night... must be fate!!

As an ownership proposition, the E39 M5 is better in every measurable way.
Reliability, speed, power, acceleration, balance and handling. Noise is close - both make terrific noises!

But these things have just aged so well, and look right, I would still love one! And the estate is even more desirable.


Tcooc168

33 posts

3 months

Thursday 7th November
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g3org3y said:
Back when BMWs were special. cool
Totally agree, but then again not 50k special.

SidewaysSi

5,984 posts

181 months

Thursday 7th November
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chelme said:
Over priced. There is another one trader wanting 64k. They are nice looking cars however the one at 64k has been waiting for nearly a year.

Traders seem to be in denial. The market has been changing and it is not what it was in 2015/16. The 'modern classics' has become predominantly a hollow fad, with only the authentic motorsport homologation specials holding their prices. Others? We are seeing significant drops.
This trader is known for taking the piss with prices...

Augustus Windsock

1,822 posts

102 months

Thursday 7th November
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“...it's been garaged the whole time it's been in the UK, never driven in adverse conditions...”
The veracity of the above is called into question to me
At any time of the year outside summer months there’s usually moisture on the roads (and even in summer when it rains etc)
I could go with ‘not driven on salted roads’
As another has opined, dealers are in denial about the market yet the common wisdom (and stats including those of HAGI) is that prices of ‘classics’ are, by and large, falling back

E36Dan

7,070 posts

115 months

Thursday 7th November
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How come some E34s have E36 M3 styled side mirrors, and some don't?

Prefer the rectangles, but other than that, it's the best

cobra kid

3,438 posts

187 months

Thursday 7th November
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"name a.........we'll wait"

Almost as bad as

"Do ******** they said, it'll be fun they said."

E65Ross

23,501 posts

159 months

Thursday 7th November
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E36Dan said:
How come some E34s have E36 M3 styled side mirrors, and some don't?

Prefer the rectangles, but other than that, it's the best
The rectangular ones are for non-M cars I think.

Jhonno

3,641 posts

88 months

Thursday 7th November
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E65Ross said:
E36Dan said:
How come some E34s have E36 M3 styled side mirrors, and some don't?

Prefer the rectangles, but other than that, it's the best
The rectangular ones are for non-M cars I think.
This.

Arsecati

366 posts

64 months

Thursday 7th November
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If I was to only ever own one M Car and one M Car only...... this would be it.

(Though not at 50 bleeding k!!)

3795mpower

316 posts

77 months

Thursday 7th November
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You could always buy my 3.8 saloon for way less than half the money and
Have enough left over for a track toy and a decent holiday !


skylarking808

293 posts

33 months

Thursday 7th November
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E65Ross said:
The rectangular ones are for non-M cars I think.
They seemed to come on the top of the range 8 series of the time (non M) and of course were an expensive option from the dealer on other cars such as my E36 sport.

I blimmin' love this and just need an appropriate dog to put in the back.

loveice

511 posts

194 months

Thursday 7th November
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“ Name a more desirable fast estate car. We'll wait...”

There’s no need to wait. When it comes to fast estate, RS2 is a faster by all means, and most importantly a better estate car as being an estate practicality is one of the most important factors.

RS2 has 4WD which M5 doesn’t and Audi in that era generally has better BIW than BMW of the same era. So, it will be far less likely to be rusty under the paint after 25 years. And there aren’t that many RHD RS2 still running in the UK, either.

Of cause, if by saying “desirable” you mean “better handling”, then sure this M5 is the better choice. But if handling is the most important factor of judging how desirable a car is, then surely we shouldn’t be talking about an estate car at the first place...

MDMA .

5,187 posts

48 months

Thursday 7th November
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There's a nice one up for auction this weekend in France -

https://www.aguttes.com/lot/96041/11058414

RedSwede

245 posts

141 months

Thursday 7th November
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Don't really get it - and I love an E34 M5 - but double the typical saloon price..?

I sort of see that an estate is "cool", but I can't see any need for an estate E34 M5 - you're not going to be using it to go to the tip, and the saloon is perfectly practical enough for touring holidays and the like. Then there is that the saloon is better looking, cheaper (a lot), stiffer (almost certainly, if you care about that sort of thing), etc.

EDIT to add: there's also a fighting chance that you might find a saloon with the Champagne leather interior too cloud9

Edited by RedSwede on Thursday 7th November 09:48

Cold

7,711 posts

37 months

Thursday 7th November
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An expensive, near 30 year old, 110k mile, LHD, BMW estate - in silver. Apparently this is desirable in PH-land.
Maybe one for the shed thread, definitely one for the overpriced cars thread.