RE: Audi S8 | Driven

Friday 15th November 2019

2020 Audi S8 | PH Review

The 2020 S8 was supposed to be an autonomous marvel. Instead, it's just a marvel...



It's no secret that a significant proportion of Audi A8 owners do not drive their cars. You only need to slip into the spacious rear of the present D5 car to see why. Each A8 to succeed the now legendary D2 has enjoyed halo positioning, and its reputation as a business-grade limousine has guaranteed a certain amount of global popularity, particularly in Asia. But the S8 has typically been a breed apart, blessed (or cursed) with the requirement for supercar-fast pace, and often sold more for its flagship status than for its Q-car capabilities.

With its starting price expected to breach £100k for the first time, the latest S8 is destined for ground that not even the previous Plus variant reached. Yet the model maintains a key advantage over its arch rival, the Mercedes-AMG S63. A £28,000 one, to be exact. That says more about the S-Class's customer base than actual qualitative difference though, because the saving is certainly not to the detriment of the equipment onboard the S8. The 2020 car, more than ever, is a tech fest both underneath and inside. The latter gets Audi's latest digital cabin architecture, while the former gains the A8's highly impressive active suspension. It is powered by a 571hp MHEV V8 and is said to be ready for Level 3 'eyes off' autonomy. Only regulatory framework is said to stand in its way; there's even a blanked-off button on its dash for the unintroduced autonomous features.

We can gloss over the 40 or so driverless systems that are beavering away behind the scenes, but it's fair to say that the experience from the back seat (which Audi insisted we sample) is from the very top drawer. No sane person would previously have picked the S8 to do the job of a limousine, but it seems like there are no in-built limitations to the model's comfort-giving properties. Like all cars of this sort, it is tempting to grade its backseat abilities against the convenience of a short-haul flight. Would PH preferred to have arrived on the continent at a slower, plusher rate of travel? Well, let's just say we'd have been fresher faced if the only air between us and the ground was held within an active suspension system.


The S8's ability to virtually separate body and driveline is not exclusive to the performance saloon - since the regular A8 provides exactly the same floaty traits when equipped with the predictive suspension hardware - but on the S8 the tech comes as standard and its parameters have been extended, so as to not leave it floppy when the cruise is exchanged for fast-paced driving. In Comfort+ (there's no room for 'regular' Comfort here), the S8 constantly tips and leans against the forces that would be applied to its passengers, so the physical impact of hurtling around a slip road or full-throttle launches are considerably dampened. And the nose-mounted camera, which scans the road 15 metres ahead 18 times a second, enables the air suspension to lift the body before a speed bump so it's practically unnoticeable. You really do glide along the tarmac.

Even in Dynamic mode, the S8 rides beautifully on its top-spec 21-inch wheels (20s are standard). Only now, instead of countering lean, the suspension holds the body flat through bends and allows the surge of performance provided by that deep, monumentally tractable 4.0 V8 to maximise visceral impact. The S8 belies its 2.2-tonne mass with sub-4 second-to-62mph performance and barely lets up beyond. Yet there's little in the way of sound to signal your speed, with Audi's active noise cancellation technology replacing wind and road noise with the purposeful bass of the engine and a just-audible electrified whine. It all sounds very, well, high-end.

Should you swap fast, straight roads for corners, the S8 does well to maintain its form. As you'd imagine, the grunt provided by 590lb ft of torque means there's no reason to interrupt the automatic function of the eight-speed transmission. It works seamlessly with the petrol motor and is happy to lug it out in gear rather than juggling cogs even when you charge between bends. If you insist on going to the paddles, the manual clicks deliver an impressively immediate response; we're not talking RS7 levels of engagement here, obviously, and that's illustrated by the auto upshift you can't escape should you mistime a gear change. But long gone are the days when an S8's driveline felt set on independence; it's easy to revel in the far-reaching elasticity of an electrically-assisted twin-turbo motor by short-shifting under heavy power. There's real joy to be had in that.


As ever, the four-wheel drive quattro traction is virtually unbreakable, although Audi's sport differential and the S8's standard inclusion of rear-wheel steer delivers a satisfying degree of mid-corner adjustability. The car turns on a pivot around its centre, meaning that it's possible to thread this near 5.2-metre-long machine through the Spanish mountain passes of our test route with accuracy and consistency. There's no steering feel, obviously, but even on an autumnal afternoon the consistency of mechanical grip is so high that it barely matters. You hardly need to know the nuance; leave it to the traction systems and, in the case of our car, the unflappable carbon ceramic brakes. Inevitably that means the S8 is never going to send you into a paroxysm of driving pleasure, but there's genuine satisfaction to be had from the balance and composure of its chassis; ditto the effortless, muscular excess of the V8.

Of course, anyone hoping for a dominating V8 soundtrack is going to be disappointed; AMG's equivalent has the stronger lungs. Better to think about it from the Q-car angle. The S8 genuinely feels like it's slipping under the radar. As far as the chassis goes, our memory of the cheaper but less luxurious BMW 750i M Sport suggests it'd be the more exciting steer on the same road, although only by a small margin. Yet the S8 does so much more at the other end of the spectrum with its super comfortable predictive hardware that its overall advantage feels significant. Some will prefer the conventional layout of an S63 cabin - as in the A8, the flagship's mass of screens will not suit everyone - but if you like your £100k car to carryover all the convenience of your smartphone, the Audi is second to none. And that goes twice for its build quality. All of which makes it hard to complain at any length about the S8. It's autonomous party piece might have been foiled, but this is still the best iteration yet of Audi's Big Easy.


SPECIFICATION - AUDI S8
Engine:
3,993cc, V8, twin-turbocharged, plus starter generator
Transmission: 8-speed tiptronic, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 571@tbc
Torque (lb ft): 590@tbc
0-62mph: 3.9sec
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: tbc (est 2,230kg unladen)
MPG: tbc
CO2: tbc (est 285g/km)
Price: tbc (est £100,000)

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sidesauce

Original Poster:

2,475 posts

218 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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I really do like that, a lot.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Best looking of all the big salons out there imho. Saw an ordinary one a few days ago and it looked tremendous.

Think of rather have the S class for its silly engine though

numtumfutunch

4,723 posts

138 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Does it shove a little bit?







I win!!!

ZX10R NIN

27,601 posts

125 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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Very nice.

dvs_dave

8,624 posts

225 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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Proper motor. Is very much on my list, especially as it’s now available in LWB, which is a must in my book.

Cupramax

10,480 posts

252 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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I love Audis but this is just utter dross FFS. Let’s stick an enormous Audi shaped grill on some non descript shape. To be honest it’s not just Audi, all the big Germans are at it. I’m the biggest petrol head ever but the utter snooze inducing st that all the big manufacturers are producing currently do absolutely nothing for me. I’m a serial car swapper but my current S5 is nearly 5 years old now and next to nothing built today lights my fire, frown

Edit and just to add, 2.25 tons?... really rofl Audi’s selling point for the originall a/s8 was it was aluminium bodied and hence (at the time) quite light for the segment. smash

Edited by Cupramax on Thursday 14th November 01:28

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

138 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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Weight: 2,230kg unladen is what it says.

2,230kg. I repeat 2,230kg. Yes, it really says 2,230kg.

sidesauce

Original Poster:

2,475 posts

218 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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DeltonaS said:
Weight: 2,230kg unladen is what it says.

2,230kg. I repeat 2,230kg. Yes, it really says 2,230kg.
An S65 AMG weighs 2,250kg. Bentley's Flying Spur is 2,437kg unladen. That's an entire 200+ kg difference but funnily one doesn't hear people complain about that car - plus the S8 carries way more tech in it than the Spur does.

A1VDY

3,575 posts

127 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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Cupramax said:
I love Audis but this is just utter dross FFS. Let’s stick an enormous Audi shaped grill on some non descript shape. To be honest it’s not just Audi, all the big Germans are at it. I’m the biggest petrol head ever but the utter snooze inducing st that all the big manufacturers are producing currently do absolutely nothing for me. I’m a serial car swapper but my current S5 is nearly 5 years old now and next to nothing built today lights my fire, frown

Edit and just to add, 2.25 tons?... really rofl Audi’s selling point for the originall a/s8 was it was aluminium bodied and hence (at the time) quite light for the segment. smash

Edited by Cupramax on Thursday 14th November 01:28
^
This
All current Audi's look hideous with the across the range generic look, this one just has a larger portion of hideous thrown in.

Once out of the three year warranty collosal Depreciation will see it worth a bag of sand, electrical gremlins will see to that..


GTEYE

2,096 posts

210 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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I wish manufacturers would put a bit more effort into alloy wheel design - these don’t really look very interesting.

A problem across all manufacturers it seems.

Tim bo

1,956 posts

140 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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That's .... a lot of screenery ...





nickfrog

21,149 posts

217 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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A1VDY said:
Cupramax said:
I love Audis but this is just utter dross FFS. Let’s stick an enormous Audi shaped grill on some non descript shape. To be honest it’s not just Audi, all the big Germans are at it. I’m the biggest petrol head ever but the utter snooze inducing st that all the big manufacturers are producing currently do absolutely nothing for me. I’m a serial car swapper but my current S5 is nearly 5 years old now and next to nothing built today lights my fire, frown

Edit and just to add, 2.25 tons?... really rofl Audi’s selling point for the originall a/s8 was it was aluminium bodied and hence (at the time) quite light for the segment. smash

Edited by Cupramax on Thursday 14th November 01:28
^
This
All current Audi's look hideous with the across the range generic look, this one just has a larger portion of hideous thrown in.

Once out of the three year warranty collosal Depreciation will see it worth a bag of sand, electrical gremlins will see to that..
You two might not be in the HNWI target Audi designed the car for. If depreciation and weight are an issue for you, I guess you'd better stick to your Elises for executive transport, as I assume that's what you drive, right?

ducnick

1,783 posts

243 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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Tim bo said:
That's .... a lot of screenery ...




Nothing says “chauffeur driven” more than these two images. It looks quite restrained and tasteful in the back, while the hired help gets the generic horrible generic Audi facia of stupid screens, scratchy plastics, black leather or alcantara etc

Two Slips and a Gully

1,811 posts

92 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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sidesauce said:
DeltonaS said:
Weight: 2,230kg unladen is what it says.

2,230kg. I repeat 2,230kg. Yes, it really says 2,230kg.
An S65 AMG weighs 2,250kg. Bentley's Flying Spur is 2,437kg unladen. That's an entire 200+ kg difference but funnily one doesn't hear people complain about that car - plus the S8 carries way more tech in it than the Spur does.
Because a Bentley or large Merc is expected to be a heavy barge.
Audi A8's were always engineered to be comparatively light. The S8 D2 was around 1700 - 1800Kg.

So 2230 Kg yikes




simonbamg

767 posts

123 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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id take it in black on black with black pack, sweet spot!

Sport220

635 posts

75 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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That is one odd looking steering wheel

wab172uk

2,005 posts

227 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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Just looks like an A4. For that kind of money, I'd want it to look a little different.

I know they're aimed at different people, but surely an RS6 would be the better car for that money?

Augustus Windsock

3,368 posts

155 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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Love the idea of this as a car but I couldn’t bring myself to own one from new as the depreciation will be epic.
Plus as a car on the used market in say 5 years time, it would make my wallet tremble with fear at the thought of any of its complex electrical systems going Pete Tong.
And finally, I’d always have this image in the back of my mind that I’m buying a car that looks like a xerox’d version of a model that’s £60k+ cheaper....

parabolica

6,715 posts

184 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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Two Slips and a Gully said:
sidesauce said:
DeltonaS said:
Weight: 2,230kg unladen is what it says.

2,230kg. I repeat 2,230kg. Yes, it really says 2,230kg.
An S65 AMG weighs 2,250kg. Bentley's Flying Spur is 2,437kg unladen. That's an entire 200+ kg difference but funnily one doesn't hear people complain about that car - plus the S8 carries way more tech in it than the Spur does.
Because a Bentley or large Merc is expected to be a heavy barge.
Audi A8's were always engineered to be comparatively light. The S8 D2 was around 1700 - 1800Kg.

So 2230 Kg yikes
Given most of the them will spend their life on the streets of London doing 20mph I doubt it really matters. Bet it's as quiet and dampened inside as it's possible to be though.

NJJ

435 posts

80 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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A very fast, technological advanced, transportation device that is all. I cannot be the only one who misses the luxury performance saloons of the 90s/00s. Admittedly I'm not the target market for this car but give me a Maserati Quattroporte, Jag XJR , E38 740iL, or even a Bentley Arnage T. All would be cheaper to run than this (when you include for future depreciation of the S8) and infinitely more stylish.