RE: Polestar 1 | Wheels of Fortune

RE: Polestar 1 | Wheels of Fortune

Sunday 1st December

Wheels of Fortune | Polestar 1

Are there really any used rivals to a 600hp hybrid coupe from a (sort of) new manufacturer? Let's see...



To beat...

It’s an intriguing thing, theΒ Polestar 1. Its lines are undoubtedly sharp and handsome, but are they too, well, Volvo? Its focus on reducing the β€˜burden’ of ownership is undoubtedly interesting, but will it work in reality? And its hybrid set-up is undoubtedly excellent, but will it appear too compromised in the maker’s pure-EV future?

That powertrain consists of twin electric motors - generating 232hp and 354lb ft of torque - on the rear axle, plus a 2.0-litre turbo and supercharged petrol engine up front contributing 309hp and 321lb ft. It’s enough to propel the 2,350kg(!) coupe from 0-62 in just 4.2 seconds, and lay down a green gauntlet in the face of more traditionally powered rivals.

But there’s more than one way for performance enthusiasts to be eco-friendly(ish). And while a hybrid may represent a greener choice for those who absolutely must have a brand new model, buying a used car - into the creation of which a good deal of resources have already been ploughed - is still a decent bet for the rest of us. So what can compare?

β€œThe [Polestar’s] blistering pace, innovative powertrain, luxury GT looks and lofty price tag make natural rivals difficult to conjure up,” concluded last week's review. Sam and Matt had better find something magic, then.

Rules of Engagement
Price:
sub -Β£160,000
Mileage: N/A
Driven wheels: Any
Engine position: Front
Engine output: 500hp+



Rolls-Royce Wraith

While the Polestar appears to present a compelling combination of both sporting and luxury talents, as well as a unique powertrain, it isn't completely devoid of rivals. One just needs to think a little... laterally.

Because for those who want presence, a sense of occasion inside and out, monumental performance, surprisingly good handling and an opulent customer experience from their two-door coupe, what about a Rolls-Royce Wraith? Of course it represents the old way of doing things in this duel (everything would), what with its enormous combustion engine, though Rolls-Royce tradition would surely ensure serene, unruffled progress not far off the calm of a hybrid. The verdict on its last review? "For all its bulk and monumental thrust, the Wraith is actually a thing of real subtlety."

This Wraith looks like a perfectly decadent alternative to the cool and clean Polestar, having shed tens of thousands in just three years and 7,500 miles. The spec is contemporary, restrained and stylish, and that's not even the best bit; it's for sale at Rolls-Royce Motor Cars London, at Berkeley Square House. Bet that experience surpasses even a Polestar Space... (MB)

Joker - Ferrari f12 berlinetta

A purely selfish one, because it's not really a valid rival. But I want my front-engined, 500hp+ super GT to be more exciting than either a Rolls or Polestar, and nobody makes more exciting cars than Ferrari. This F12 is Rosso Corsa with Crema, has done less than 2,500 miles a year and looks way better than an 812. And most other cars, actually. One to treasure forever.


Bentley Continental GT W12

To me, the latest Bentley Continental GT is the benchmark grand tourer. Yes, it uses shared VW Group parts, but Crewe was at the helm from the platform’s embryonic stage. So when provided with 635hp of W12 thrust the GT represents the greatest blend of traditional luxury and modern performance on wheels today. The Polestar 1’s powertrain is brilliant, I'm sure, but hybrid power already feels dated. You either go fully electric or don’t. The W12 GT has no designs on the future, instead providing the very best fruits of yesteryear in a package to satisfy the demands of the present. And what a package it is.

There are a million reasons why you should opt for the V8, but for those less concerned with weight distribution and more interested in feeling the invincibility provided by a 664lb ft W12, the GT cannot be beaten. Comparing its 6.0-litre to the Polestar’s electrified four-pot feels akin to deciding between a royal suite at the Savoy and a last-minute Airbnb.

Where the Polestar feels clean and crisp like a new iPhone in your palm, the GT is like slipping into your favourite pair of slippers. It’s the quintessential grand tourer, but thanks to the talents of that chassis, it can also morph into a fairly convincing sports car, capable of hauling its 2.2 tonnes around bends and even entertaining with a rear-biased power balance. A Polestar 1 fan might call it a modern take on a dying formula; I call it the culmination of a century of engineering evolution. (SS)

Joker - Aston Martin Vanquish S

Keeping up the 12-cylinder theme, this 20k-mile-old Vanquish S adds an extra dose of Britishness into the equation, largely because of the 007 connection but also thanks to all that charm. The Polestar 1 is handsome, but the Aston exudes V12 muscle like little else…


Verdict...

Finding a genuine rival to a car looking to break such new ground was always going to be a challenge, so it’s no surprise to see two of the most consummate mile-munchers available rearing their heads.

That such relatively new, low-mileage offerings from Rolls-Royce and Bentley were within budget rather says it all about just how pricey the Polestar is for a car that many will still identify as a Volvo.

At this end of the market there are no bad choices, but while the Bentley is a phenomenal GT car, some consideration does have to be given to its eye-straining combination of Dragon Red paint and Cricket Ball leather. Perhaps the reason why it’s previous keeper managed just 1,000 miles behind the wheel?

Victory belongs to the Rolls, then, which in its spec could well be claimed to be about as subtle as the marque gets, making it an even worthier alternative to the minimalist Polestar. In reality, though, you'd almost certainly find us calculating the Man Maths to make it into that Ferrari.


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Author
Discussion

Bencolem

Original Poster:

493 posts

187 months

Sunday 1st December
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Are there really any used rivals to a 600hp hybrid coupe from a (sort of) new manufacturer?

Well it’s about the only 600hp hybrid coupe from a (sort of) new manufacturer that I can think of:

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Sunday 1st December
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S class coupe

M6 gran coupe

8 series

911 turbo

Panamera turbo

Nissan GT-R


All better cars imho

Amanitin

249 posts

85 months

Sunday 1st December
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I bet you could spec an S600 coupe to 140k without breaking a sweat.

I hope they do a C90 with the regular powertrains and reasonable prices, i think those would be very successful.

rodericb

1,801 posts

74 months

Sunday 1st December
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Bencolem said:
Are there really any used rivals to a 600hp hybrid coupe from a (sort of) new manufacturer?

Well it’s about the only 600hp hybrid coupe from a (sort of) new manufacturer that I can think of:

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Good call!

I usually get a bit annoyed when people start dishing up used cars in comparison to something mediocre and new and thus a bit on the spendy side but with this Poledancer I can't resist. So I'd be going that NSX PLUS this Tesla Model S P100D for less moneyhttps://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...


Edited by rodericb on Monday 2nd December 07:28

Sunday 1st December
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Lexus LC would be another

Jamessd

45 posts

76 months

Sunday 1st December
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rodericb said:
So I'd be going that NSX PLUS this Tesla Model S P100D for less money
Linky no worky :-(
Sunday 1st December
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BMW i8 yet another

SFO

4,703 posts

131 months

Sunday 1st December
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Polestar 1 is way way overpriced for a brand with no history or reputation. It will bomb

Wills2

16,250 posts

123 months

Sunday 1st December
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Judging by the list of cars in the article, it doesn't look good for the Polestar....

Ferrari F12 or Volvo with a 4pot? Hmmm.....


samoht

1,054 posts

94 months

Sunday 1st December
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Porsche Taycan Turbo at a mere £115k, perhaps? (if the charging points get sorted out soon).


Matt Bird

1,132 posts

153 months

PH Reportery Lad

Sunday 1st December
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Bencolem said:
Are there really any used rivals to a 600hp hybrid coupe from a (sort of) new manufacturer?

Well it’s about the only 600hp hybrid coupe from a (sort of) new manufacturer that I can think of:

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
That’s a very good shout! Perhaps a bit more
supercar than the Polestar but definitely interesting. Will think a harder next time...


Matt

Notanotherturbo

346 posts

155 months

Sunday 1st December
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I'm not sure who the Polestar is supposed to appeal too? If you want something fast and stylish there are hugely more appealing options at this price point (that Wraith is lovely smile) . Anyone who can spend £160k isn't going to be bothered about running costs and anybody who wants to save the planet would go with something full electric.

British Beef

1,249 posts

113 months

Sunday 1st December
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Wills2 said:
Judging by the list of cars in the article, it doesn't look good for the Polestar....

Ferrari F12 or Volvo with a 4pot? Hmmm.....

To be honest, I dont think people that will buy this Polestar, or any recent volvo will have the slightest care in the world for performance, sound or how a car drives.

Niffty951

1,836 posts

176 months

Sunday 1st December
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Game, set, match:

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Wins on looks, interior quality (probably), performance and price. It's even a hybrid

Wills2

16,250 posts

123 months

Sunday 1st December
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British Beef said:
Wills2 said:
Judging by the list of cars in the article, it doesn't look good for the Polestar....

Ferrari F12 or Volvo with a 4pot? Hmmm.....

To be honest, I dont think people that will buy this Polestar, or any recent volvo will have the slightest care in the world for performance, sound or how a car drives.
To be honest I doubt many people if any that would normally buy a Volvo will be in the market for a 160k car, I have no idea who they are aiming this car at it seems to answer no questions, I get a Tesla or an F12 and a plodding V60, but this? Not so much.

Maybe China has 1500 people willing to buy it.





mikEsprit

715 posts

134 months

Monday 2nd December
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I think it looks very good, but it looks like an Audi 5 class or a Mustang competitor. It sure doesn't look like a Rolls Royce, Bentley, or Aston Martin competitor.

The fact that it is a hybrid? Who cares?

rodericb

1,801 posts

74 months

Monday 2nd December
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Jamessd said:
Linky no worky :-(
Oops, sorry. Link is in my post now.

hucumber

371 posts

45 months

Monday 2nd December
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Niffty951 said:
Should've gone to specsavers

TheOrangePeril

380 posts

128 months

Monday 2nd December
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Although in a whole different price band, surely an LC500h is a closer proposition, and £95k cheaper even for a practically-brand-new-one...

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Niffty951

1,836 posts

176 months

Monday 2nd December
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hucumber said:
Niffty951 said:
Should've gone to specsavers
Made me chuckle but I think you're thinking of the pre-face lift. The early cars did look like they were set on fire and put out with a bat.