RE: Ferrari 599 GTO | Showpiece of the Week

RE: Ferrari 599 GTO | Showpiece of the Week

Monday 9th December 2019

Ferrari 599 GTO | Showpiece of the Week

For the collection that's missing an Omologato, this 599 has fewer than 400 miles - set aside £700k...



A decade can seem like long time in fast cars; then again, sometimes it can't. Take the Ferrari 599 GTO as an example. Revealed at the Geneva motor show in 2010, it was a large, front-engined, V12 Ferrari, a limited run supercar derived from a series production model and with an explicit focus on track driving that sold out very quickly. And while the formula has changed a little since then, the fact that the GTO was indirectly replaced by the f12 TdF, and that the 812 builds upon the lessons learnt from that, suggests Ferrari is going to make the most of this concept while it can.

And why wouldn't it? While the circuit-ready V8s - Pistas, Speciales and Scuderias - tend to be remarkably approachable Ferraris given their ability, there's always been an intimidation factor about the big V12s. They've never been cars to trifle with, and they have always demanded the utmost respect. What that means, however, is a completely unforgettable driving experience, with the sort of razor-sharp responses and towering performance that precious few others can match. You need to be on your game, but the efforts for those most special of front-engined Ferraris have always been worth it.


That certainly held true for the GTO. While some harangued Ferrari for using the 'Omologato' tag on a road car - previously only reserved for the 250 and 288 racers - this was most definitely not a cynical marketing ploy. A reworked engine liberated another 50hp for the 599 cars, but the big news was in the chassis; the aim for the GTO was for as little understeer as possible - "dynamically it's been designed a bit like a fighter aircraft", said Marc Gene, and that meant a thorough overhaul. Of course it was a stiffer, lower 599, but also one that swapped the standard 245-section GTB front tyres for enormous 285-section items. Back then the Michelin Pilot Super Sport it came with was a brand new tyre, and given how long it saw service for - Ford having kept it for the current Fiesta ST, because it was better than the replacement - that should indicate how good it is. The ceramic brakes came with a ceramic pad, the driving assists were recalibrated, 100kg was taken from the kerbweight... The GTO was transformed.

That transformation was borne out on the track, contemporary reports understandably noting the incredibly immediate front end - a trait that has continued into today's Ferraris - the monumental performance and its propensity for oversteer. The assists did a great job of containing it, mostly, but the eagerness of the front end and the enormous power did mean a somewhat predictable conclusion if there was too much of one or the other. Or both...


That, though, is what makes cars like the GTO so memorable. Of course, there's the limited edition, V12 Ferrari status, but also the knowledge that they can't be driven fast easily - to get the most from them, they need precision driving. As that becomes a rarer and rarer commodity in quick cars, don't be surprised to find it more and more coveted by collectors.

Especially when it's presented in as fine as form as this. This all-black GTO - just in case it wasn't intimidating enough - looks absolutely pristine, as might be expected from a car that's covered just 389 miles. Yes, it's one that's been in a collection, though given it's now for sale at £700k - from a new price of £299,280 - it's easy to understand why an owner just kept it. And maybe they were a bit scared.

Still, opportunity is here now for another owner to experience just what the fuss really is about around the hallowed GTO, or indeed consolidate their collection with another icon. The biggest problem? Deciding whether the garage needs this first, or an F12 TdF at the same money...

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Arsecati

Original Poster:

2,302 posts

117 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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No matter what they say, I have always found this a rather cynical application of the GTO moniker, when you consider what wore the badge previously. The 288 GTO was on my wall as a kid, and would be a Euromillions purchase in a heartbeat if the numbers came in. This though? Just another special edition 599 in my mind: sorry!

mwstewart

7,587 posts

188 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Amazing car.

WCZ

10,516 posts

194 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Arsecati said:
No matter what they say, I have always found this a rather cynical application of the GTO moniker, when you consider what wore the badge previously. The 288 GTO was on my wall as a kid, and would be a Euromillions purchase in a heartbeat if the numbers came in. This though? Just another special edition 599 in my mind: sorry!
it's a very special edition regardless

i'd have one over a pista any day tbh

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Awesome car.

Would be even better with the 7 speed box.

I always did wonder why Ferrari didnt just use the 458 Stradale's DCT box in this GTO.....

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,050 posts

212 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Schermerhorn said:
Awesome car.

Would be even better with the 7 speed box.

I always did wonder why Ferrari didnt just use the 458 Stradale's DCT box in this GTO.....
Not sure, but possibly torque??

With that money, I'd much rather an 812 SF though. With a lot of change to buy a GTC4 Lusso V12 as well. And still another £100k left over.

AmosMoses

4,040 posts

165 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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These are absolute hooligans, they can spin the wheels at even a flex of the big toe. I love them, not sure its worth £700k though...

Gecko1978

9,680 posts

157 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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a ferrari designed to push the driving experice to the limit of what was possible at the time....which seems to never have been driven

viggyp

1,917 posts

135 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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I absolutely love these and remember reading the reviews which were all positive...except when JC tested it on Top Gear slating it saying it was undriveable rolleyes

Reciprocating mass

6,029 posts

241 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Perhaps he was right nobody seemed to bother driving this particular one

wab172uk

2,005 posts

227 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Never really liked the way the 599 looked. Think it's the front end.

Think I'd rather have a low milage F12 or 812 Superfast.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,050 posts

212 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Gecko1978 said:
a ferrari designed to push the driving experice to the limit of what was possible at the time....which seems to never have been driven
Likely purchased by someone who wanted to turn a profit. If it was £250k new and now £700k I'd say that's a good return so fair play to the original owner.

epom

11,488 posts

161 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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£550k for the sound it makes alone.

Murcielago_Boy

1,996 posts

239 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Nicely specced GTO.
Comedy price. The car should be £499k at most.

Corbyn gets in and it'll be worth £5.99

MDL111

6,913 posts

177 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Schermerhorn said:
Awesome car.

Would be even better with the 7 speed box.

I always did wonder why Ferrari didnt just use the 458 Stradale's DCT box in this GTO.....
much prefer the latest iteration of the F1 box to the DCT - feels more special to drive imo

Never you mind

1,507 posts

112 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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viggyp said:
I absolutely love these and remember reading the reviews which were all positive...except when JC tested it on Top Gear slating it saying it was undriveable rolleyes
Think he said if you turn off the all the driving aids it would do its upmost to kill you.

My all time favourite car.

viggyp

1,917 posts

135 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Never you mind said:
viggyp said:
I absolutely love these and remember reading the reviews which were all positive...except when JC tested it on Top Gear slating it saying it was undriveable rolleyes
Think he said if you turn off the all the driving aids it would do its upmost to kill you.

My all time favourite car.
Yes, I think you're right there. Not seen his review for a while admittedly.

Never you mind

1,507 posts

112 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Just noticed that this doesn't have harnesses in it. Thought they all came with them?

British Beef

2,209 posts

165 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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wab172uk said:
Never really liked the way the 599 looked. Think it's the front end.

Think I'd rather have a low milage F12 or 812 Superfast.
For that money you get both and change!!

When a standard 599 in good condition that has been used is under £100k, the mark up for the GTO and for low mileage is ludicrous.


Gecko1978

9,680 posts

157 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Gecko1978 said:
a ferrari designed to push the driving experice to the limit of what was possible at the time....which seems to never have been driven
Likely purchased by someone who wanted to turn a profit. If it was £250k new and now £700k I'd say that's a good return so fair play to the original owner.
oh I agree, I just feel cars designed to be driven hard which are never driven are a bit pointless as cars. Might as well give it solid gold wheels and say it can never be driven.

But you pay your money you can do what you like with it

thelostboy

4,569 posts

225 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Never really liked the look of these... resembles a fat insect to me, from the front.

£700k for a Ferrari with no race pedigree; it's all yours!