JLR pioneers 'morphable' front seats

JLR pioneers 'morphable' front seats

Thursday 16th January 2020

JLR pioneers 'morphable' front seats

Suffering from lower back pain? You are by no means alone. JLR thinks it might have the remedy...



Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin...

Comfortable or not, it turns out that sitting for prolonged periods probably isn't the best thing fitness-wise. According to the World Health Organisation, more than 1.4 billion of us are living "increasingly sedentary lifestyles." And while that may sound like something to aspire to, it can also lead to a shortening of the muscles in the legs and hips, increasing the likelihood of injuries and back problems. Ah.

In order to help combat this, JLR's Body Interiors Research division - which sounds like something a person you'd avoid at the pub might have printed on their t-shirt - has developed a pioneering new 'morphable' seat.


This "seat of the future" constantly micro-adjusts, using a series of actuators in the seat foam to simulate the rhythm of walking. This movement, known as pelvic oscillation, not only attempts to mitigate the health risks of extended sitting, but apparently makes your brain think you're actually walking, too. So if you've ever arrived somewhere after a long drive and thought, "I wish I felt like I'd walked that" you're in luck!

Jaguar Land Rover Chief Medical Officer, Dr Steve Iley, said: "The wellbeing of our customers and employees is at the heart of all our technological research projects. We are using our engineering expertise to develop the seat of the future using innovative technologies not seen before in the automotive industry to help tackle an issue that affects people across the globe."

There's no word yet on when we can expect to see this technological marvel on a dealer options list, although with the average UK driver spending just nine hours a week in their car, perhaps a morphable office chair might be the better place to start. Hop to it JLR!


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V8 FOU

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Thursday 16th January 2020
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Is it 1st April?

oilit

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178 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Isn't this just the same as 'massage seats' which I believe have been around for a while?

Or, is there one of these buried inside the seat perhaps?



For the youngsters here it's a kids tv character called Morph created by Tony Hart in the '70's

sxmwht

1,561 posts

59 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Imagine driving for 4 hours and getting out the car and feeling like you'd walked it hehe

dibblecorse

6,875 posts

192 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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oilit said:
Isn't this just the same as 'massage seats' which I believe have been around for a while?

Or, is there one of these buried inside the seat perhaps?



For the youngsters here it's a kids tv character called Morph created by Tony Hart in the '70's
Morph is a legend ....

Norbury90

6,897 posts

206 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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So this is why Jaguar are struggling. Now I get it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Does it withstand trumps?

LucyP

1,698 posts

59 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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They buy the seats in from Lear, who design and manufacture them! And it isn't the seats that stop people buying Jaguars! Lear supply many manufacturers across the world across a range of industries.

Black S2K

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249 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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sxmwht said:
Imagine driving for 4 hours and getting out the car and feeling like you'd walked it hehe
biggrin

C'mon, no-one's done the reliability joke yet?

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V8 FOU

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147 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Does the morphing etc speed up with the speed of the car. Then you'll be running at 70mph....

defblade

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213 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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oilit said:


For the youngsters here it's a kids tv character called Morph created by Tony Hart in the '70's
Actually, created by Aardman; Tony was just his sidekick wink

Gojira

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123 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Norbury90 said:
So this is why Jaguar are struggling. Now I get it.
Just wait until your back gives up... laugh

AER

1,142 posts

270 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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The trouble is located in your wallet and JLR are here to offer relief!

mradam

166 posts

94 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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As a person with a degenerative disc condition I welcome moves to make driving more comfortable whilst also not being detrimental long term. But if these seats trick your brain into thinking you're walking I wonder how that might affect your general leg control, i.e. pedal feel and reactions.

lufbramatt

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134 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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Sounds like something that will last about 10 minutes before breaking in the most uncomfortable position possible and then cost thousands to fix

Niffty951

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228 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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Now I can't comment on the benefits of this particular invention but I'm very happy to see a manufacturer putting body health back up the list.

I've noticed a trend of worse and worse sitting positions in cars. Why are the Golf mk7 pedals so offset to the right when the mk6 are straight?

Why is the Mercedes C class steering wheel angled vs the seat so if you sit straight in the seat you have unequal bend in your arms or (more likely) you twist your upper body.

BMW's pedals are now so off centre from the direction the seat points that you sit with your back on the seat bolster rather than the middle of the seat.

Only Porsche cars and the Vauxhall insignia appear to sit all the controls straight and central to the drivers seat such that if you sit shoulders back in the centre of the seat and point your arms and legs forwards you find the controls perfect (not that I've been in the latest version of either).

This detail makes a huge difference with the 37k miles I do a year as I start to age.

Deranged Rover

3,388 posts

74 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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Given JLR’s reliability track record (and I speak as a big fan of them!) plus the fact that, to cure the non working seat heater on my old L322 would have required a complete new seat, lets just say I’m wary of this exciting news.

Black S2K

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249 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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Niffty951 said:
Now I can't comment on the benefits of this particular invention but I'm very happy to see a manufacturer putting body health back up the list.

I've noticed a trend of worse and worse sitting positions in cars. Why are the Golf mk7 pedals so offset to the right when the mk6 are straight?

Why is the Mercedes C class steering wheel angled vs the seat so if you sit straight in the seat you have unequal bend in your arms or (more likely) you twist your upper body.

BMW's pedals are now so off centre from the direction the seat points that you sit with your back on the seat bolster rather than the middle of the seat.

Only Porsche cars and the Vauxhall insignia appear to sit all the controls straight and central to the drivers seat such that if you sit shoulders back in the centre of the seat and point your arms and legs forwards you find the controls perfect (not that I've been in the latest version of either).

This detail makes a huge difference with the 37k miles I do a year as I start to age.
I suspect it might be a corollary of plank-sharing; if you use the same bulkhead structure and pedal boxes/SRS columns and widen (or narrow) the body/seating points, something will be out of line.

Of course, the Cayster/.911 don't suffer from the same - they are one of the few (aside from some Japanese) with near-perfect ergonomics. Ironic, considering what a torture-chamber the original 911 was!

micksims

31 posts

197 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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JLR and more electrics, not usually their best mix!

sxmwht

1,561 posts

59 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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Niffty951 said:
Now I can't comment on the benefits of this particular invention but I'm very happy to see a manufacturer putting body health back up the list.

I've noticed a trend of worse and worse sitting positions in cars. Why are the Golf mk7 pedals so offset to the right when the mk6 are straight?

Why is the Mercedes C class steering wheel angled vs the seat so if you sit straight in the seat you have unequal bend in your arms or (more likely) you twist your upper body.

BMW's pedals are now so off centre from the direction the seat points that you sit with your back on the seat bolster rather than the middle of the seat.

Only Porsche cars and the Vauxhall insignia appear to sit all the controls straight and central to the drivers seat such that if you sit shoulders back in the centre of the seat and point your arms and legs forwards you find the controls perfect (not that I've been in the latest version of either).

This detail makes a huge difference with the 37k miles I do a year as I start to age.
I have a Mk7 GTI and the pedals are bang on, right where you'd want to put your feet

CoolHands

18,630 posts

195 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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On the end of your legs