RE: Czinger 21C breaks cover ahead of Geneva

RE: Czinger 21C breaks cover ahead of Geneva

Monday 17th February

Czinger 21C claims 1.9 seconds to 62mph | Update

Californian hypercar gets 1,250hp hybrid powertrain



Last week we brought you news of an all-new supercar, built in California and said to be "an extreme hybrid for the 21st century." The Czinger (it's Zinger... the C is silent) 21C makes use of cutting-edge production techniques, including additive manufacturing/3D-printing, to create a machine which its maker believes represents "an evolutionary leap in performance vehicle creation."

And, with a full reveal set for Geneva in two weeks' time, the manufacturer has seen fit to release a couple of numbers to back up its claim. A whopping 1,250hp from the car's proprietary, in-house designed hybrid powertrain kicks things off rather nicely, while a 0-62 time of just 1.9 seconds finishes them in mic-dropping style. Add to that features like a fighter jet-style two person in-line seating configuration and a driver-focussed set-up, and you can colour us intrigued.

Following up on the initial road-based video, a new clip shows the 21C both blasting down Alameda Naval Base's deserted airstrip by day and prowling along it at night - looking mightily impressive in both situations, it must be said. While the Czinger's evolutionary billing may not suggest the next Pagani, Koenigsegg or Rimac, then, there's certainly more than enough to be excited about here. We'll be awaiting full details at Geneva with appropriate levels of additive manufactured anticipation.

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Original story: 13/02/2020


A new car brand from California is vying for attention at Geneva with its first offering: an all-new, ground-up supercar that uses a hybrid powerplant developed completely in house. The Czinger 21C, which has been previewed in a shadowy teaser video ahead of its public debut, uses a 3D printed body sporting a prototype-aping dome roof, fixed rear wing and a central seating position, as well as central lock wheels and carbon ceramic brakes. From what we can see, it looks pretty spectacular.

We've little doubt that those aforementioned ingredients are there to cater for proper track work, but the video shows the car being driven at steady pace along Cali's Bixby Bridge and Pacific Coast Highway, so obviously it's road legal, too. Czinger won't budge on powertrain specifics, but the noise would suggest a flat-plane turbocharged V8 isn't out of the question. The audio during the onboard shot in particular has a certain McLareness about it; although rest assured that the engine is all-new. As is the gearbox.

This being a supercar developed for 2020, we're expecting high a three figure or even four figure power output, sub three second 0-62mph time and probably a lot of downforce. But what really makes this car stand out to us is that central driving position, which looks to place a second passenger immediately behind. Anyone to have driven a car with a central steering wheel will know the inherent benefits provided to your ability to place the car on a road, not to mention the balance. Flashes of carbonfibre and exotic metals suggest the 21C's weight has been kept well in check.

Czinger - named after its founder - is a new brand but it's clearly hoping to hit the ground running. Startup supercar companies have a tendency to fall by the wayside quicker than election promises - but with a working car and the promise of more information ahead of the car's showing, we look forward to hearing more...


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lotuslover69

Original Poster:

169 posts

93 months

Wednesday 12th February
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that name is horried

Fetchez la vache

5,215 posts

164 months

Wednesday 12th February
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I wonder if the inevitable Nurburgring lap will be called Ring Czing?

Hoofy

70,025 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th February
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Fetchez la vache said:
I wonder if the inevitable Nurburgring lap will be called Ring Czing?
The Ring Czinger?

thelostboy

3,751 posts

175 months

Wednesday 12th February
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How many hypercars does the world need?

This is like doubling-down on the stereotypical new British sportscar template, which make much fanfare and either never see the light of day, or collapse shortly after launching.

cookie1600

1,390 posts

111 months

Wednesday 12th February
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lotuslover69 said:
that name is horried
What if it was a Czinger meal with extra fries and sides?

sidesauce

1,158 posts

168 months

Wednesday 12th February
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thelostboy said:
How many hypercars does the world need?
As many as can be made. There'll be a time when cars like this will be no longer allowed to be created new so let people enjoy making them while they can.

thelostboy said:
This is like doubling-down on the stereotypical new British sportscar template, which make much fanfare and either never see the light of day, or collapse shortly after launching.
No, it really isn't. The British are known in general for failing when it comes to new sports cars - countries with much smaller populations than the UK (Croatia, Denmark and Sweden for example) and even individuals like Mssrs Glickenhaus and Jannarelly have managed to do it so that's not a very good comparison at all.


Paracetamol

4,075 posts

194 months

Wednesday 12th February
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Yawn..another day another irrelevant hypercar

Gitwhoismiserable

607 posts

73 months

Wednesday 12th February
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Paracetamol said:
Yawn..another day another irrelevant hypercar
yawn

A1VDY

1,445 posts

77 months

Wednesday 12th February
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Gitwhoismiserable said:
Paracetamol said:
Yawn..another day another irrelevant hypercar
yawn
Yawn +2
Its a car which will cost way more than any on PH could afford. A car which may go into production but will inevitably be a complete money pit with huge shortfalls in development and no dealer support aka mclaren. Oddball bubble car looks as well which will only appeal to the usual nerdy goofy beardy types with the mandatory buck teeth, milk bottle glasses and wooly tank top. The type any woman wouldnt take a second glance at...



Edited by A1VDY on Wednesday 12th February 20:08

Scho

2,332 posts

153 months

Wednesday 12th February
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Wicked Czinger

drpep

1,271 posts

118 months

Thursday 13th February
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Some lovely details, but yes, likely unobtainium.

Hames Junt

109 posts

13 months

Thursday 13th February
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wab172uk

1,553 posts

177 months

Thursday 13th February
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Hurray !!! another pointless over powered over priced Hypercar. What a time to be alive !!

I'll enjoy not reading the test drive.

Gitwhoismiserable

607 posts

73 months

Thursday 13th February
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A1VDY said:
Yawn +2
Its a car which will cost way more than any on PH could afford. A car which may go into production but will inevitably be a complete money pit with huge shortfalls in development and no dealer support aka mclaren. Oddball bubble car looks as well which will only appeal to the usual nerdy goofy beardy types with the mandatory buck teeth, milk bottle glasses and wooly tank top. The type any woman wouldnt take a second glance at...



Edited by A1VDY on Wednesday 12th February 20:08
Yawn

thelostboy

3,751 posts

175 months

Thursday 13th February
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sidesauce said:
o, it really isn't. The British are known in general for failing when it comes to new sports cars - countries with much smaller populations than the UK (Croatia, Denmark and Sweden for example) and even individuals like Mssrs Glickenhaus and Jannarelly have managed to do it so that's not a very good comparison at all.
And your comparisons are good? Glickenhaus has a lot of money.

You are are using vague exceptions (assuming one is Zenvo) rather than the rule. Funded by rich individuals; they are not independent successful businesses.

sidesauce

1,158 posts

168 months

Thursday 13th February
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thelostboy said:
sidesauce said:
o, it really isn't. The British are known in general for failing when it comes to new sports cars - countries with much smaller populations than the UK (Croatia, Denmark and Sweden for example) and even individuals like Mssrs Glickenhaus and Jannarelly have managed to do it so that's not a very good comparison at all.
And your comparisons are good? Glickenhaus has a lot of money.

You are are using vague exceptions (assuming one is Zenvo) rather than the rule. Funded by rich individuals; they are not independent successful businesses.
Yes, they're good as you asserted that "this is like doubling down on the stereotypical British template". Vague exceptions? Ok, are Koenigsegg, Pagani and Rimac not successful businesses then? Is that specific enough for you?

Also, do you even know who Kevin Czinger is? If you do, you'll know that, like Glickenhaus, he has a lot of money. It's also fair to say he also might know a thing or two about manufacturing using alternative techniques; something that, if you even bothered to research, you'd know.

People like you will never have the success these guys have experienced if your attitude is to shoot down some-one's vision. The aforementioned men I mention have succeeded in realising their dreams in the face of incredible odds; something that throwing money at doesn't necessarily solve. As manufacturers they didn't exist 30 years ago yet they are all very respected in the high-end car game now.

irocfan

22,094 posts

140 months

Thursday 13th February
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I'll start off by saying that I have absolutely no interest in hypercars (even supers really do nothing for me), BUT I'm glad that they exist and I'm glad that people care enough to try something new. We're coming to the end of the ICE era so (IMO) make hay whilst we're still able to - st Greta and the fun police will be along soon enough to chastise you for daring to use dino-juice

Kev_Mk3

1,613 posts

45 months

Thursday 13th February
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the C is silent? then why have it. It already sounds like a KFC meal.

How long will the company last as it isn't going to sell many is it lets be real.

ate one too

1,812 posts

96 months

Thursday 13th February
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Here's a CZingreen ....


davea18h

78 posts

74 months

Thursday 13th February
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lotuslover69 said:
that name is horried
It was a misspelling ....it should have read C Minger!