RE: Renault Sport Megane 300 Trophy | PH Fleet

RE: Renault Sport Megane 300 Trophy | PH Fleet

Monday 24th February 2020

Renault Sport Megane 300 Trophy | PH Fleet

A fond farewell, or an abrupt au revoir? Time to say goodbye to the Megane...



If nothing else, the cars we all love owning - be that outright, or vicariously through long-term loans - are memorable. They can be new, old, fast, slow, small or big - they just need something about them that sticks in your mind. Through a few lucky years of being able to run PH Fleet cars, certain vehicles stand out: the Leon Cupra, which always just felt so damn fast; the Civic Type R, for its gearbox; the GT86, for proving how joyous small, light, rear-wheel drive coupes should be.

The Megane Trophy will be joining that list. It wasn't an entirely blissful few months - at certain points I really didn't want to be in it at all - but life with the Megane was never forgettable. That's not to be passed off merely as 'character', either, where flaws are irritating enough to be remembered, simply that many of the car's aspects made an indelible impression - both positive and negative.


First one of those is the way it looks; even after many months to get familiar, the Megane still struck me as a fantastic looking car. From what's been so far of the new breed - Golf GTI, Cupra Leon, Civic Type R facelift - there seems little to suggest that anything else in the sector will be more stylish any time soon. It's telling, moreover, that Renault has done precious little to the Megane in the mid-life update; its combination of presence, attitude and flair is expertly judged, the Trophy clearly something special without being OTT. Alright, perhaps Liquid Yellow and red bits on the wheels make it OTT, but that shape and the details are absolutely spot on. During the winter months I never tired of seeing that light bar illuminate across the back, perhaps just lighting enough to see the exhaust and diffuser arrangement as well. Unnecessary theatre to some, but I loved it. And if you're spending this sort of money on a hot hatch, a little surprise and delight, a reminder of what you've paid for, is probably welcome.

So Renault chose not to alter the styling much for the imminent facelift, because there's nothing wrong with it, but did choose to overhaul the interior. Any guesses as to why that is? Yep. I know it's a point hammered home, but the driving environment just isn't quite good enough, and that will count for a lot in the showroom. Nic's Golf TCR boasted a more harmonious, cohesive cabin, and it's now been replaced, that architecture inherently from a car launched in 2013. It wasn't only the sluggish central display and the frequency with which CarPlay crashed, but also the relationship the driver had with pedals, wheel, gearstick and so on. It was something that you could get familiar with but, like a lot of workable flaws, the problem shouldn't really have been there in the first place. And the climate control buttons felt a bit cheap. The new interior is one I'm awaiting with interest.

Because, with that most major of gripes addressed, the Megane is going to be brilliant. The ride is tough, sure, though its means the sort of unrelenting, addictive composure that isn't found in many others. Like always in Renault Sport products, the limited-slip diff is aggressive and precise; and while there can be torque steer to content with, it's never unmanageable. The four-wheel steer can be trusted after some familiarity, and the Renault Sport feel - that of agility, adjustability and focus - is never far away. It's a different kind of Renault Sport product, yes, but definitely still a Renault Sport product.


Would I buy one? Typically motoring journalists are the worst people to ask this question, because they don't buy new cars. And they think cars peaked in about 2001. But the answer remains: yes, albeit in a different specification. From what's been said about the DCT, and from my experience of the obstreperous manual, I'd probably opt for the automatic gearbox. And there's a suspicion that the Sport chassis probably works on the road better; as proven at Oulton Park, the Trophy is a good track car without being an extraordinary one. And that was for about 50 of the 11,000 miles, so it would be worth prioritising the road experience.

Thus, I could well recommend and enjoy a Megane; more interesting than a Golf, miles more attractive than a Civic, as good to drive as a Focus and closer in price to an i30 than this Trophy. Which is pretty damn good already. With the revisions expect it to be more competitive - and still the best-looking hot hatch by a margin.


FACT SHEET
Car:
2019 Renault Sport Megane 300 Trophy
Run by: Matt
On fleet since: June 2019
Mileage: 11,213
List price new: £31,835 (price as standard; as tested £36,085 comprised of Liquid Yellow paint for £1,300, Bose Pack (Bose sound system with seven speakers, digital amp and sub, plus 8.7-inch touchscreen with R-Link 2), for £800, Front parking sensors and rear parking camera for £400, Visio system (Lane departure
warning, traffic sign recognition and auto high beam) for £250 and Recaro Sports Pack (Renault Sport Recaro seats with red stitching and Alcantara) for £1,500)
Last month at a glance: It took a little while, but the Megane wormed a way into affections eventually...

Previous reports:
Another Trophy triumph?
Brilliant, baffling, bemusing - what next?
The beauty is more than skin deep. Mostly.
Nearly tremendous on track
A honey on honeymoon?
Is a Sport DCT Megane the automatic choice?
A Trophy for track, now tackling the town












Author
Discussion

Frimley111R

Original Poster:

15,652 posts

234 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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I think that was a good and fair summary.

As PHers we want the Trophy of course but we spend 99.9% of our time on rough, unforgiving roads where very firm suspension damages wheels and makes you wince over every pothole. The same applies to the DCT, 99.9% of our driving is in local roads full of local traffic or on motorways.

Looks are subjective though. I think it looks good, I tihnk the CTR looks fantastic, I think VW Golf's are dull as dishwater. And I can't remember what the i30N looks like!

And there are some great lease deals on these too...

Throttlebody

2,348 posts

54 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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So a quick summary, it just looks good from the outside.

MissChief

7,106 posts

168 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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It still blows my mind that car companies charge £1,300 or more for a diversion on the production line and a dip into a different coloured giant pot of paint and then back onto the main production line. I do like the Renault Liquid Yellow though!

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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If nothing else, the cars we all love owning - be that outright, or vicariously through long-term loans

confused

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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Definitely still the best-looking in it's class, especially in yellow or orange paint. It's also the most desirable for me. If they offered it on the same or similar deal as the Cupra 290 i got with the EDC gearbox, then the Seat wouldn't have got a look in.

It's interesting now that, with the new facelift model, you can now only get the cup chassis with the Trophy version. I believe all models get the Trophy's upgraded turbocharger and power hike that comes with it too.

blearyeyedboy

6,290 posts

179 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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The relative lack of comments are a marker of the relative lack of love for this generation of Mégane.

I personally think it's well-judged. But it's a very different car from the Mk3, and fans don't like change. They wanted more Bob Dylan, then he went electric.

I think time will be kinder to this generation of Mégane than current critics are. And it's a good up between this and an i30 for me in this market.

I'd buy a non-Cup if I were in the market. But there aren't many out there- the fans bought the Cup they thought they knew and loved.




Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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I really like this generation of Megane, it sounds like a great car and the looks are definitely amongst the best in what's actually a pretty good-looking lineup of this kind of hatch.

One thing that does sound a bit annoying is that you can't have the diff without the spine-shattering suspension...

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

205 months

PH Reportery Lad

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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FN2TypeR said:
If nothing else, the cars we all love owning - be that outright, or vicariously through long-term loans

confused
I meant that we sort of live the ownership experience with long term loans without actually owning the car. Appreciate it might have been a clumsy phrase!

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

205 months

PH Reportery Lad

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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blearyeyedboy said:
The relative lack of comments are a marker of the relative lack of love for this generation of Mégane.

I personally think it's well-judged. But it's a very different car from the Mk3, and fans don't like change. They wanted more Bob Dylan, then he went electric.

I think time will be kinder to this generation of Mégane than current critics are. And it's a good up between this and an i30 for me in this market.

I'd buy a non-Cup if I were in the market. But there aren't many out there- the fans bought the Cup they thought they knew and loved.
You may well have a point there, unfortunately!

UpBeats

122 posts

51 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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I had liquid yellow R26 and liquid yellow mk3 275 trophy. This generation of megane does nothing for me, not sure why. Would prefer FK8 but went for Fiesta ST3 MK8. So much more fun than my 275 trophy ever was and 10k cheaper. Only about 5% slower as well in straight line.

TameRacingDriver

18,083 posts

272 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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Krikkit said:
One thing that does sound a bit annoying is that you can't have the diff without the spine-shattering suspension...
Having done a bit of research into the 250 Megane with a view to buying a cheapish one to hoon about in, this seems to have been the case for a while, which is quite off putting. I don't do any track driving but I would want the diff, so I either have the diff and put up with rock hard ride quality or have decent ride quality but not be able to get the power down. I wouldn't be willing to add it after the event either as most second hand buyers would not look twice at the non-cup versions.

blearyeyedboy

6,290 posts

179 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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Matt Bird said:
You may well have a point there, unfortunately!
Still, a lack of being in fashion bodes well for those of us who buy our cars second hand. wink

Jon_S_Rally

3,403 posts

88 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Definitely the best looking hot hatch in this segment. I really like them. If I was in the market, this would be top of my test drive list, though I think the i30 N would still put up stiff competition.

blearyeyedboy

6,290 posts

179 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Just a thought though: how are these selling compared to the previous generation? And Clio RS too?

We PHers might be up in arms about "it's not as good as the last one" but are Renault shifting them by the boatload elsewhere?