992 GT3 finished and no cammo.

992 GT3 finished and no cammo.

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Porsche911R

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Thursday 17th September 2020
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Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 17th September 09:38

TDT

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Thursday 17th September 2020
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On Cup 2 R also!!

Porsche911R

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Thursday 17th September 2020
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TDT said:
On Cup 2 R also!!
has to be now to get the time below 7.12 by a bigger margin than the 991.2 car, shame really all this R spec stuff as you cannot see how far the cars moved on by. I guess they wanted a sub 7 minute ring lap and should really be faster than the out going RS on those tyres, as it should be quicker on the straights with less drag than the old RS and be as fast in the bends with the new aero.



Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 17th September 09:46

Twinfan

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104 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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It looks terrible - I'd rather take the yellow 991 any day!

BubblesNW

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183 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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Is it purely ironic that the host of the pictures is Carscoops, something this GT3 has in abundance!

Porsche911R

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BubblesNW said:
Is it purely ironic that the host of the pictures is Carscoops, something this GT3 has in abundance!
They have nowhere to go on the GT3 bar trying to get less drag and better aero.

The lighter new wheels will help and it has 10 pot brakes :-), I know we say Porsche brakes are great, but I would like more from my GT3 in the brake dept.
the 991.2 had a very old brake design and still not powerfull enough imo. Hauling the car down from 140mph needs more braking performance.

Cup R and 10 pots should I hope rip your face off. I keep meaning to change the oem pads in mine but at >£1k it will have to wait.

TDT

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119 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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Porsche911R said:
They have nowhere to go on the GT3 bar trying to get less drag and better aero.
They should try making them much much lighter.... yep - new wheel design will help... seem to have taken pointers from BBS FI-R - but they could really try to go further... a return to fewer systems and less weight.

I've driven Ginetta G55 race cars on a couple of sessions over the last 2 weeks..... lightness is the key to everything.
Lower kerb weight yields smaller lighter braking system, better braking, turning and acceleration, better body control, better ride and handling, better efficiency and overall more fun and cheaper to run.

TDT

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Twinfan said:
It looks terrible - I'd rather take the yellow 991 any day!
Like every gen... its going to be a grower.... once it launches... it will immediately date the previous gen.
It will then take a couple years and once the new car has stopped being the new and shiny... we can all take another look.

Twinfan

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Thursday 17th September 2020
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I'm not so sure. The wing isn't integrated and there are the strange 'blobs' on the bumper.

Not my cup of tea, but then neither is any 911 really!

Porsche911R

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Thursday 17th September 2020
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TDT said:
They should try making them much much lighter.... yep - new wheel design will help... seem to have taken pointers from BBS FI-R - but they could really try to go further... a return to fewer systems and less weight.

I've driven Ginetta G55 race cars on a couple of sessions over the last 2 weeks..... lightness is the key to everything.
Lower kerb weight yields smaller lighter braking system, better braking, turning and acceleration, better body control, better ride and handling, better efficiency and overall more fun and cheaper to run.
you should have a little drive on my Spyder, you don't need anything more on the road, and the change of direction and brakes are on another level.

Cheib

23,235 posts

175 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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TDT said:
Porsche911R said:
They have nowhere to go on the GT3 bar trying to get less drag and better aero.
They should try making them much much lighter.... yep - new wheel design will help... seem to have taken pointers from BBS FI-R - but they could really try to go further... a return to fewer systems and less weight.
My FI-R’s arrive next week smile Been a loooooonnnnnnng wait.

Porsche911R

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Thursday 17th September 2020
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Cheib said:
My FI-R’s arrive next week smile Been a loooooonnnnnnng wait.
very very nice, are you fitting the cup 2.5's ie the connect tyre ?

TDT

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Thursday 17th September 2020
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Porsche911R said:
very very nice, are you fitting the cup 2.5's ie the connect tyre ?
I'm getting a set fitted next week! Will be good to try them out and report back.

Cheib

23,235 posts

175 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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Porsche911R said:
Cheib said:
My FI-R’s arrive next week smile Been a loooooonnnnnnng wait.
very very nice, are you fitting the cup 2.5's ie the connect tyre ?
What are the Cup 2.5’s when they’re at home. Haven’t ordered my tyres yet. Going to put Cup’s on the FI-R’s and put some PS4S on the OEM wheels.

supersport

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227 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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vomit

Not the biggest fan of the modern 911, way too big. But that is truly goping! It makes the 991 look petite and very nice.

Wouldn't mind a 991 GT3 Touring, the 991 is actually starting to grow on me, ironic.

TDT

4,933 posts

119 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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Cheib said:
Porsche911R said:
Cheib said:
My FI-R’s arrive next week smile Been a loooooonnnnnnng wait.
very very nice, are you fitting the cup 2.5's ie the connect tyre ?
What are the Cup 2.5’s when they’re at home. Haven’t ordered my tyres yet. Going to put Cup’s on the FI-R’s and put some PS4S on the OEM wheels.
It's the Michelin Cup 2 Track Connect.
They have internal pressure and temp monitoring system that connects to an app on your phone via transponders.

The other thing is that the compound seems to actually be slightly different also... even though this isn't advertised/publicised.... with people able to go a fair bit quicker with higher g loading... to the point where they are colloquially known as Cup 2.5 - as they seem like an almost new gen tyre.

Cheib

23,235 posts

175 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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TDT said:
Cheib said:
Porsche911R said:
Cheib said:
My FI-R’s arrive next week smile Been a loooooonnnnnnng wait.
very very nice, are you fitting the cup 2.5's ie the connect tyre ?
What are the Cup 2.5’s when they’re at home. Haven’t ordered my tyres yet. Going to put Cup’s on the FI-R’s and put some PS4S on the OEM wheels.
It's the Michelin Cup 2 Track Connect.
They have internal pressure and temp monitoring system that connects to an app on your phone via transponders.

The other thing is that the compound seems to actually be slightly different also... even though this isn't advertised/publicised.... with people able to go a fair bit quicker with higher g loading... to the point where they are colloquially known as Cup 2.5 - as they seem like an almost new gen tyre.
Oh they just sound perfect for someone like me who is already pushing the car to 100% of it’s abilities and needs to find a couple of extra tenths of a second smile If they aren’t much more money it’ sounds rude not to !

TDT

4,933 posts

119 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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Cheib said:
TDT said:
Cheib said:
Porsche911R said:
Cheib said:
My FI-R’s arrive next week smile Been a loooooonnnnnnng wait.
very very nice, are you fitting the cup 2.5's ie the connect tyre ?
What are the Cup 2.5’s when they’re at home. Haven’t ordered my tyres yet. Going to put Cup’s on the FI-R’s and put some PS4S on the OEM wheels.
It's the Michelin Cup 2 Track Connect.
They have internal pressure and temp monitoring system that connects to an app on your phone via transponders.

The other thing is that the compound seems to actually be slightly different also... even though this isn't advertised/publicised.... with people able to go a fair bit quicker with higher g loading... to the point where they are colloquially known as Cup 2.5 - as they seem like an almost new gen tyre.
Oh they just sound perfect for someone like me who is already pushing the car to 100% of it’s abilities and needs to find a couple of extra tenths of a second smile If they aren’t much more money it’ sounds rude not to !
Lol… here’s your salt shaker back!

Tyres themselves don’t cost much different.
Just the additional on-off £350 or so for the track connect module.
Key thing is that it takes the guess work out of how much pressure to run. It’s all calculated in realtime, based upon how you’re driving and real conditions. Tells you how many laps for warm up, cool down and then at the end of the day how much to add back in for normal drive home.
You should get longer service out of the tyres and you have no excuse to wreck them because of running to long or the wrong pressures.

Cheib

23,235 posts

175 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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TDT said:
Cheib said:
TDT said:
Cheib said:
Porsche911R said:
Cheib said:
My FI-R’s arrive next week smile Been a loooooonnnnnnng wait.
very very nice, are you fitting the cup 2.5's ie the connect tyre ?
What are the Cup 2.5’s when they’re at home. Haven’t ordered my tyres yet. Going to put Cup’s on the FI-R’s and put some PS4S on the OEM wheels.
It's the Michelin Cup 2 Track Connect.
They have internal pressure and temp monitoring system that connects to an app on your phone via transponders.

The other thing is that the compound seems to actually be slightly different also... even though this isn't advertised/publicised.... with people able to go a fair bit quicker with higher g loading... to the point where they are colloquially known as Cup 2.5 - as they seem like an almost new gen tyre.
Oh they just sound perfect for someone like me who is already pushing the car to 100% of it’s abilities and needs to find a couple of extra tenths of a second smile If they aren’t much more money it’ sounds rude not to !
Lol… here’s your salt shaker back!

Tyres themselves don’t cost much different.
Just the additional on-off £350 or so for the track connect module.
Key thing is that it takes the guess work out of how much pressure to run. It’s all calculated in realtime, based upon how you’re driving and real conditions. Tells you how many laps for warm up, cool down and then at the end of the day how much to add back in for normal drive home.
You should get longer service out of the tyres and you have no excuse to wreck them because of running to long or the wrong pressures.
Oh I’m all over that. I’ll be Mr “all the gear and no idea” at the next track day.

Porsche911R

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Thursday 17th September 2020
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Cheib said:
Oh I’m all over that. I’ll be Mr “all the gear and no idea” at the next track day.
yes but you will be the one with the last laugh having tyres which look as new on the way home.
over having to buy a set every 1/2 day like some do as spending money = fun some how and "tyres are cheap"

win win the 2.5 cup 2 connect imo. faster, safer and more track days from a set.