RE: Porsche Cayenne Turbo S

RE: Porsche Cayenne Turbo S

Friday 12th May 2006

Porsche Cayenne Turbo S

Tom Stewart samples the baddest 521bhp Porsche SUV and asks: why?


Porsche Cayenne Turbo S
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S

Until very recently Porsche's Cayenne range consisted of three models: a relatively affordable 3.2 litre V6 with an adequate 250bhp, a more powerful 'S' model with a 340bhp 4.5 litre V8 and, for those for whom a lot just isn't quite enough, a turbocharged 4.5 litre V8. With an awesome 450bhp and a faintly ridiculous 165 mph speed potential, the top-of-the-range Cayenne Turbo can show a clean (or muddy) set of tailpipes to any other SUV, new Audi Q7 V8, BMW X5s, Merc MLs and the supercharged V8 Range Rover Sport all included.

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With that in mind you might assume that when Porsche management decided to add a fourth variant to the Cayenne line-up it would perhaps be powered by a diesel. Although American buyers have yet to twig that diesels go further on a tankful and offer thumping, useable torque, we Europeans are slowly realising that the bigger the car, the more a diesel can offer. Also, considering that the Cayenne and Volkswagen Touareg share platforms, and that Porsche now holds a substantial stake in VW, a Cayenne with a big VW TDI lump – maybe even a Porsche-massaged five-litre V10 TDI – might have been a logical and intriguing next step.

But no.

Boosted turbo

Porsche, as PistonHeaders already know, is a maker of fine-handling sports cars and so rather than add weight to the front axle with a diesel, or risk sullying the marque's sporting image with a noisy oil-burner, the company has decided to put more distance between itself and potential rivals by launching the £81,565 Cayenne Turbo S.

Featuring increased turbo boost pressure (by up to 0.2 bar), upgraded intercoolers and tweaked engine management, the Turbo S's 4.5-litre, 32-valve V8 puts out 71 horsepower more than the existing Turbo model. With a full 521bhp and 531lb-ft of torque spread from 2,750 to 3,750rpm, the new Cayenne is, after the Carrera GT supercar, “the second most powerful road car ever built by Porsche”. So says the car's press kit, but that's ignoring the late nineties, 544bhp 911 GT1, 'though in truth that wasn't a 'series production' road car.

Needless to say, this extra oomph yields a little extra mph. Top speed of the permanent four-wheel-drive Turbo S is quoted at a dizzy 167mph. Okay, that's only 2mph higher than for the 'cooking' Cayenne Turbo, but 0-62mph acceleration is down from 5.6 to 5.2 seconds. To put that time into perspective, it's identical to that quoted for the current 911 Carrera Cabrio and a tenth quicker than the all-wheel-drive 911 Carrera 4 Cabrio. So, it's fast by any standards, but yielding 18mpg (combined) it should use no more fuel than the Cayenne Turbo.

Hoofing it

On the road considerable care is required when hoofing the throttle. In fact, hoofing is far too strong a word because even the gentlest caress of the pedal can prompt the Turbo S into surging forward with neck-bending gusto. Accompanied by an aggressive V8 growl, this storming acceleration doesn't seem to diminish until there's about 150mph showing on both the digital and analogue speedometers.

Needless to say, this kind of über-power will rarely be exploited on road, whether by a yummy mummy on the school run or by a those in a big hurry on a derestricted autobahn. But if you happen to live near a desert -- the press launch was held in the United Arab Emirates -- then full throttle can come in useful while climbing a tall dune composed of soft, deep sand. Even when running on the standard low-profile 20-inch high-speed tyres (with normal pressure reduced by half), the Turbo S is capable of very impressive acts of off-road tomfoolery. Although 4x4 desert raiding may not be a priority for potential UK buyers, it's always nice to know you could if you really needed to.

Additional Turbo S upgrades include self-levelling air suspension (with PASM – Porsche Active Suspension Management) as standard, with larger brake discs and calipers. Apart from the larger wheels and badging, the Turbo S also wears a subtly redesigned front air grille and oval, rather than rectangular section tailpipes.

Lashings of luxury

A good chunk of the Cayenne's option list also comes as standard on the Turbo S, but for £10,695 over the price of the existing Turbo, you might expect that. But perhaps more importantly, Turbo S owners get everything and more that current Cayenne's have to offer, such as class leading handling and dynamics, superb build quality, lashings of luxury and, though still a slightly contentious issue, distinctive looks.

That said, and despite Porsche's current status as the world's most profitable car manufacturer (due at least in part to its marketing expertise), from a UK perspective it is hard to see the point of the new Turbo S sitting alongside the Turbo in the Cayenne line-up.

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sidesauce

Original Poster:

2,470 posts

218 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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I'm in LA at the moment and it seems the Turbo model is everywhere right now... I generally get the impression that the Americans tend to buy the 'top of range' (at least in California!) generally so having this new model may seem to make sense to wealthy Californians even though fuel has gone through the $3 a gallon barrier which is a HUGE deal over here, believe me.

As far as Europe goes, it seems like a somewhat perverse idea to release this monster - still, it'd be great to have a discreetly de-badged one smoking all and sundry away from a set of traffic lights...

bosshog

1,579 posts

276 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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I thinks thats it absolutely terrible that the most powerfull Porsche is a 4x4.

Madness.

meno-porsche

228 posts

246 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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Why?? Stupid question

Because they can - that why?

and because the folks in Stuttgart know there are punters out there who will buy them. Why have a 5 seater S class 500 or 750 Bemmer when you can have this monster for about the same money.

Good marketing if you ask me.

On problems is that it still looks as if it fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

meno-porsche

228 posts

246 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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meno-porsche said:
Why?? Stupid question

Because they can - that why?

and because the folks in Stuttgart know there are punters out there who will buy them. Why have a 5 seater S class 500 or 750 Bemmer when you can have this monster for about the same money.

Good marketing if you ask me.

Only problem is that it still looks as if it fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

GravelBen

15,679 posts

230 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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Well its still butt-ugly, but wouldn't it be fun, just for the sheer brutality of the thing?










(and to piss off the greenies )

Mr Whippy

29,024 posts

241 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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Would have one of these ones

Dave

GravelBen

15,679 posts

230 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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ooo yes thats not so bad. Gemballa?

cinque

833 posts

282 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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What a great article

Informative & well balanced, considering the Cayenne is still such a 'contentious' subject


i'd love one

pikey

7,699 posts

284 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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Superb!!

Just the most ridiculous, ostentatious thing. I had one on loan (sadly the V6) for a week and utterly loved it. With that much power.... OH YES PLEASE!

As to why? WHY NOT!!!!!


CDEKS

2 posts

219 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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As a yummy mummy driver myself who after having three bambinos on the trot was practically forced into letting go my pristine Carrera 911 Cab this January, all I can say is roll on the porsche that allows three little people in the back without that thing between the two seats and that IS NOT A 4 X 4! I replaced my 911 with a spanking new Cayenne and inwardly groan every time I floor the pedal and find I'm still at the lights behind some silly BM or Merc. I miss the open top - especially if today's lovely weather is anything to go by. Much as I'd love to grab this new model cayenne just because it seems a great toy and others could eat it's dust, I just don't feel that Porsche have really thought much about extending their range to a substantial DB9 Vanquish rival which is basically what I would like to see. Come on porsche - make the die hard mummies happy - we don't need much shopping or buggy space, but space for the 3 kids and hubby in a roof down sporty dream meachine would be snapped up before it left the drawing board! (oh an obviously, make it the fastest porsche ever please!)

bosshog

1,579 posts

276 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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meno-porsche said:
Why??


Because it should be as CDEKS said:

CDEKS said:
...all I can say is roll on the porsche that allows three little people in the back without that thing between the two seats and that IS NOT A 4 X 4!..


Why can't we have a 4/5 seater SPORTS CAR with that engine, not a bloody 4x4. I don't have much against 4x4 except it accelerating the 'I'm must get a bigger/heavier car than you as I'll be better off in an accident'. I know there the possible 2plus2 car coming, but come on - lets stop pissing about with these kiddy carriers..

clorenzen

3,673 posts

235 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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The whole "go faster" and "more horsepower" think is going off the rails. It is very difficult to consolidate all your motoring wishes into one single car. There is no way that you want to go fast in a 2.5 tonnes 4x4 despite the fact that it is cabable of it. I have tried to cut down on the number of cars in our drive but it is very difficult. A DB9 is not the answer as the rear seats are even more compromised than in a Porsche but for long journeys it does not come better than that. A Porsche convertible is great when the sun is out and you can just about manage to take the kids on the schoolrun in the back - so my wife will not let me get rid off it. But on a rainy day on the M4 with spray all over the place you want to be high up in a Range Rover. So yummy mummy - its a luxury problem, but I do not think that the all in one supercar will ever exist.



>> Edited by clorenzen on Friday 12th May 17:10

tiga84

5,206 posts

231 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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clorenzen said:
I do not think that the all in one supercar will ever exist.


It does. Its called an M5.

granville

18,764 posts

261 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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My weekly jaunt past the regional OPC demonstrated the success of this vehicle.

The forecourt was awash with Cayene, as appeared the interior of said gin palace.

I had a look at an 'S' version myself, black sans bling (mercifully) and devoid of chrome trim.

It looked perfectly fine to me and quite frankly, people should experience this car before so completely 'binning' it.

Even the PH ambassador to the Grand Council of Anti-Cupholding Minimalism, Von Domster of Ruritania, recently admitted being significantly impressed by said 'S' version whilst chasing badgers at MIRA.

And before anybody attacks me for such misplaced heresy, I spent a thoroughly inspiring 2 hours this morning committing nothing short of pure genocide against the north's insect kingdom in my Catertin Veloceraptor.

I resubmit to the house my plea for automotive tolerance* and liberalism (very much like my politics, of course.)

(* Except for the VW Bentleys, vehicles which I resent with an illogicality that entirely udoes my argument. Now, where's the sauce?)


Silas Marner.






YamR1,V64motion

5,723 posts

224 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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nevermind the power, work on the very ugly exterior and then i would be impressed, until then an overfinch RR sport would be far higher in my choice of 4*4.

sidesauce

Original Poster:

2,470 posts

218 months

Saturday 13th May 2006
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tiga84 said:
clorenzen said:
I do not think that the all in one supercar will ever exist.


It does. Its called an M5.


If you can figure out how to work the bloody thing, that iDrive is sh*t! I think it's essential with any performance car that you should be able to control it instinctively. Complex electronics and nearly unfathomable controls do not equate the all in-one-supercar principle to me!

>> Edited by sidesauce on Sunday 14th May 17:40

lap_time

339 posts

227 months

Sunday 14th May 2006
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tiga84 said:
clorenzen said:
I do not think that the all in one supercar will ever exist.


It does. Its called an M5.



...the previous M5 that is...drool: no iDrive and THAT V8?


>> Edited by lap_time on Sunday 14th May 10:33

GravelBen

15,679 posts

230 months

Sunday 14th May 2006
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tiga84 said:
clorenzen said:
I do not think that the all in one supercar will ever exist.


It does. Its called an M5.


after people calling the Cayenne ugly, you suggest a Bangled BMW?

papercup

2,490 posts

219 months

Monday 15th May 2006
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the steering wheel looks like a fanny

or i haven't had any for months

sorry

oagent

1,779 posts

243 months

Monday 15th May 2006
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If Porsche own such a big steak in VW, why not sit back and let the peoples car makers knock out the farm vehicles, mini buses and the people carriers while Porsche concerntrate on trying to maintain some sense of brand respect in the SPORTS CAR market. If they want to make a respectable luxo barge with kiddie space do something with that engine that rivals the M5.