RE: Car depreciation revealed

RE: Car depreciation revealed

Wednesday 24th May 2006

Car depreciation revealed

Best cars, worst cars - and those in the middle


Mini suffers least depreciation
Mini suffers least depreciation
Car price guide Wisebuyers has revealed which cars cost drivers the most and least in depreciation. The Mini comes top -- and at the bottom is the Daewoo Nubira (the what??) which lost a stonking 90 per cent of its value in three years.

The statistics have been reproduced as tables showing which affordable cars lose the most money, and which lose the most value as a percentage of their new price.

Wisebuyer’s findings

  • The right model is crucial. It doesn’t matter which make you buy as much as which model and specification you choose. For example, Vauxhall have a car in both the top and bottom ten and the majority of their models are in the middle of the league (neither losing or saving the buyers a notable amount).
  • Buying cheaper cars can cost you more. A new Daewoo Nubira may only cost £11,012 but it loses 90.5 per cent (nearly £10,000) of its value over 3 years, making it worth just over £1,000. A £16,015 Honda Civic loses a similar amount of money, but is still worth £6,282 and will usually be more reliable and enjoyable.
  • Too many extras can be bad for you. Buying a standard car with a very high specification tends to create heavier depreciation. You are better off buying a mid-range specification BMW 5-series or Mercedes C-Class than a top of range Vauxhall Omega for example (worst performing car on depreciation)
  • Small cars and high image cars (like Lotus Elise or Volkswagen Golfs) always lose the least.

Advice to car buyers

  • Car buyers don’t spend enough time planning to buy their car. Just comparing today’s prices in the classified ads isn’t enough.
  • When buying a used car, you need to know more than one price:

 o The new price (ideally you want the previous owner to have paid the majority of the depreciation)

 o Today’s two main prices (for sale in dealerships and privately)

 o Likely price in a year or two, or when you plan to sell it

Compare cars to see which model and specifications lose the most and how quickly before deciding which car to buy.

 o Most Audi A4s lose over 50% of their value in three years, typically around £10,000, making them a great used buy, but the new car buyer should go for the Cabriolet which loses 33.8% (and is second in the top 10 by percentage)

 o The customer that buys a new Mini One will lose £1,300 less than the buyer of a Mini Cooper S. But the used buyer should go for the Cooper S every time, because the previous owner has paid the depreciation and they get all the extra performance!

  • Remember a car is only worth the guide value it's not stolen, hiding faults or been badly looked after.

Cars under £25,000 when new in 2003

       

Now coming up to their first M.O.T. have they been great value new cars or are they about to become a great used buy for their next owner?

     

Top 10 losers - in money value

 

2003 New Price

Trade Price Today

Loss

Loss %

 

Vauxhall

Omega (1994-04)

4Dr Saloon 3.2i V6 24v MV6 Auto

£24,995.00

£4,880.00

£20,115.00

80.48%

 

Alfa Romeo

166 (1999-)

4Dr Saloon 2.5 V6 24v Turismo

£24,335.00

£5,683.00

£18,652.00

76.65%

 

Rover

75 (1999-05)

5Dr Tourer 1.8 T Connoisseur SE Auto

£24,765.00

£6,303.00

£18,462.00

74.55%

 

Citroën

C5 (2001-)

5Dr Estate 3.0i V6 Exclusive Auto

£23,595.00

£5,266.00

£18,329.00

77.68%

 

Renault

Avantime (2002-03)

3Dr Coupe 2.0T Dynamique

£23,870.00

£5,792.00

£18,078.00

75.74%

 

Land Rover

Freelander (1997-)

2Dr Softback 2.5i V6 ES Auto

£24,210.00

£6,167.00

£18,043.00

74.53%

 

Peugeot

406 (1996-04)

5Dr Estate 3.0 V6 Executive Auto [SN]

£23,810.00

£5,853.00

£17,957.00

75.42%

 

Renault

Vel Satis (2002-)

5Dr Hatchback 2.2 dCi Privilege Auto

£24,857.00

£6,918.00

£17,939.00

72.17%

 

Peugeot

607 (2000-)

4Dr Saloon 2.2 HDi SE Auto

£24,610.00

£7,020.00

£17,590.00

71.48%

 

Volvo

S80 (1998-)

4Dr Saloon 2.4T S

£24,040.00

£6,568.00

£17,472.00

72.68%

Top 10 losers - in percentage of purchase price

       
 

Daewoo

Nubira (1997-03)

4Dr Saloon 1.6 Spec Edn

£11,012.00

£1,043.00

£9,969.00

90.53%

 

Fiat

Marea & Weekend (1997-02)

4Dr Saloon 1.6 ELX Auto

£13,555.00

£1,699.00

£11,856.00

87.47%

 

Proton

Wira (2000-)

5Dr Hatchback 1.6 EXi Auto

£9,860.00

£1,881.00

£7,979.00

80.92%

 

Vauxhall

Omega (1994-04)

4Dr Saloon 2.2i 16v CD Auto

£20,820.00

£4,023.00

£16,797.00

80.68%

 

Citroën

C5 (2001-)

5Dr Hatchback 3.0i V6 Exclusive Auto

£22,495.00

£4,681.00

£17,814.00

79.19%

 

Hyundai

Accent (2000-)

5Dr Hatchback 1.5 CDX Auto

£10,365.00

£2,167.00

£8,198.00

79.09%

 

Suzuki

Swift (1992-03)

3Dr Hatchback 1.0 GLS

£6,875.00

£1,452.00

£5,423.00

78.88%

 

Chrysler

Neon (1999-04)

4Dr Saloon 2.0 R/T

£14,000.00

£3,015.00

£10,985.00

78.46%

 

Citroën

Xsara (1997-04)

3Dr Coupe 1.6i 16v VTR

£12,795.00

£2,820.00

£9,975.00

77.96%

 

Hyundai

Elantra (2001-)

5Dr Hatchback 1.6 Si Auto

£11,915.00

£2,664.00

£9,251.00

77.64%

Top 10 cars that lose the least (price)

       
 

Mini

Mini (2001-)

3Dr Hatchback 1.6 One

£10,255.00

£6,828.00

£3,427.00

33.42%

 

Daihatsu

Charade (2003-)

3Dr Hatchback 1.0 EL

£6,182.00

£2,727.00

£3,455.00

55.89%

 

Seat

Arosa (1997-)

3Dr Hatchback 1.0 (Revised 2001)

£6,010.00

£2,413.00

£3,597.00

59.85%

 

Perodua

Kelisa (2002-)

5Dr Hatchback 1.0 EX

£5,140.00

£1,439.00

£3,701.00

72.00%

 

Vauxhall

Agila (2000-)

5Dr MPV 1.0i 12v Expression

£6,010.00

£2,301.00

£3,709.00

61.71%

 

Smart

City (2000-04) & ForTwo (2004-)

2Dr Coupe 0.6 Pure Auto [RHD]

£6,285.00

£2,437.00

£3,848.00

61.23%

 

Honda

Jazz (2002-)

5Dr Hatchback 1.4i DSI S

£9,015.00

£5,146.00

£3,869.00

42.92%

 

Seat

Arosa (1997-)

3Dr Hatchback 1.0 S (Revised 2001)

£6,515.00

£2,630.00

£3,885.00

59.63%

 

Toyota

Yaris (1999-05)

3Dr Hatchback 1.0 VVTi S [PAS]

£7,213.00

£3,290.00

£3,923.00

54.39%

 

Volkswagen

Polo (2002-05)

3Dr Hatchback 1.9 SDi E

£8,815.00

£4,797.00

£4,018.00

45.58%

Top 10 cars that lose the least (percentage)

       
 

Mini

Mini (2001-)

3Dr Hatchback 1.6 Cooper S

£14,420.00

£9,627.00

£4,793.00

33.24%

 

Audi

A4 (2001-04)

2Dr Cabriolet 2.4

£24,688.00

£16,324.00

£8,364.00

33.88%

 

Honda

Civic (2000-)

3Dr Hatchback 2.0i Type R 30th Anniv

£17,013.00

£10,618.00

£6,395.00

37.59%

 

Lotus

Elise (1996-)

2Dr Convertible 1.8 (Revised 2001)

£23,180.00

£14,420.00

£8,760.00

37.79%

 

Kia

Sorento (2003-)

5Dr Station Wagon 2.5 CRDi XE

£18,295.00

£11,285.00

£7,010.00

38.32%

 

Volkswagen

Golf (1998-04)

3Dr Hatchback 3.2 V6 R32 4Motion

£22,608.00

£13,462.00

£9,146.00

40.45%

 

Audi

TT (1999-)

2Dr Coupe 1.8 T [180 bhp] Quattro 6spd

£24,115.00

£14,195.00

£9,920.00

41.14%

 

Audi

A3 (1996-03)

S3 3Dr Hatchback 1.8T [225 bhp] S3 Quattro

£24,840.00

£14,467.00

£10,373.00

41.76%

 

Honda

Jazz (2002-)

5Dr Hatchback 1.4i DSI SE Sport

£11,315.00

£6,484.00

£4,831.00

42.70%

 

Kia

Sorento (2003-)

5Dr Station Wagon 2.5 CRDi XS

£21,555.00

£12,301.00

£9,254.00

42.93%

Author
Discussion

chris_crossley

Original Poster:

1,164 posts

283 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
quotequote all
The MINI dose not supprise me.
My Trade in value was about 70% and it was four years old!

Excellent cars.

Phil Dicky

7,162 posts

263 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
quotequote all
Yep makes me happy with the Mini,
On a side note has anyone noticed how far the X5 prices are dropping
£15k now buys a 4/5 year old car !!. Had I still had my X5 I would have lost 20k in 2 years.

trackdemon

12,175 posts

261 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
quotequote all
Our Cooper S is up for sale shortly, this is great news

LooseCannon

288 posts

227 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
quotequote all
What the hell is a Kia Sorento, and how does it mix it with the Honda/Audi/VW crowd for good depreciaition?

corcoran

535 posts

274 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
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I'm loving that i've been looking to spend about 5-6K on a car and it's aaallll about the renault laguna dynamiques, vauxhall omegas and rover 75s. chortle. then again high-mileage 530d's/530i's are also just north of 7k and what fun!!

gibo993

961 posts

265 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
quotequote all
All scary


Nerver buy new thats my motto and I have done very well by it and have owned some very nice cars and lost very little

DBSnappa

86 posts

231 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
quotequote all
Scary as this is ( it isn't, unless you have a 3 yr old car you bought new ), could the system administrator please make it compulsory for all users of the classifieds section to use the Autotrader used car price guide.

If I had the time, I could spend most of a week going through the classified section flagging up all the over-priced immaculate private sale cars. Unfortunately, 90% of the sellers think they're cars all have a USP that seems to involve costing several thousand over top book for private sales.

magic torch

5,781 posts

222 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
quotequote all
I ran an X5 for 14 months and only lost £500, wasn't even a diesel. So it's possible to buy new and not lose out.

Does annoy me when magazines and TV shows compare cars they only compare the purchase price. As this shows it can be irrelevant, depreciation is the big expense.

Andrew Noakes

914 posts

240 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
quotequote all
Nice story, but 'Wisebuyers' figures are nonsense because they're based on retail prices. Bet most people buying an Omega new got a whacking great discount, so the real cost of depreciation isn't as much as it looks.

ride drive

94 posts

262 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
quotequote all
I bought a brand new Focus TDCI Ghia in January this year and paid 3.5K under retail. The dealer had LX models on the forecourt in the used car lot on 05 plates with 8 – 10k on the clock for more money than I paid for the higher spec and new car. That 3.5k more than absorbs any depreciation I might have otherwise suffered, and as I am still likely to have it in 10-years or more time I shall get my money’s worth. There was absolutely no point in buying a used one on this occasion.

There is no reason at all why you should pay full whack on a new car, providing you time your purchase right. Between Xmas and New Year, and just after New Year, dealers are screaming out for buyers, but no one has any money to spend, but dealers still have to hit their sales targets somehow.

vtecblack

62 posts

215 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
quotequote all
and don't forget - 17.5% gets lopped off the value the minute it leaves the forecourt!

merlot

1,464 posts

253 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
quotequote all
At least it doesn't have the 'low depreciation' Boxster in the list - that lie is out! Things often look good at list price but try buying a Boxster with less than £4k of extra on it.

davy9449

1,271 posts

219 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
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I bought a Focus TDCI 3dr old shape a shade under a year ago on an 05 plate. Its now got 8K on the clock and due for its 1st service. Its the edge model, pretty basic but with 16" alloys and CD the usual, also one of the best hatches I have driven - sharper than a Golf or Leon say. I wish I'd bought it a few months before looking back, as I reckon I'd have got a better deal. I Have seen some 04 plate ones going for 9K still in dealers which surprises me. Wonder what mine will be worth now

I probably won't buy new again, but it's a great feeling driving away when the mileometer reads 8 and you can keep it just how you want it

TerryD

10 posts

263 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
quotequote all
I can't believe that no-one else has looked at (at least no-one has mentioned) the years that are given with the model. Take a look at the Kia Sorento which has lost 40%+ since 2003 and then it is compared with cars that date back to 1994. Give me a ferking break! How about comparing like with like. I think everyone knows that cars have their biggest depreciation on their first day and then in the first years. The whole "study" is pointless.

size13

2,017 posts

257 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
quotequote all
TerryD said:
I can't believe that no-one else has looked at (at least no-one has mentioned) the years that are given with the model. Take a look at the Kia Sorento which has lost 40%+ since 2003 and then it is compared with cars that date back to 1994. Give me a ferking break! How about comparing like with like. I think everyone knows that cars have their biggest depreciation on their first day and then in the first years. The whole "study" is pointless.
Maybe you missed this bit...

Cars under £25,000 when new in 2003

It's listing the price of the car new in 2003, not the date next to the car.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

265 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
quotequote all
poppy cock imo


what all these companys miss off is the extra's you always have to pay on the cars which loose the least.

take a porsche for example or a Lotus both these cars need 6 or 7k of extras when you buy the car which you never get back but have to have them to be able to sell the car.

so yes you may lose 37% over 3 years but you have also lost your 7k worth of extra's

these reports smell of dirty poo imo.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

265 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
quotequote all
ALso how much is air con on the civic typr R another 1.5k which is straight down the pan.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

265 months

Thursday 25th May 2006
quotequote all
just looked 3 cars to prove a point

you have to pay for paint wheels and leather total cost over 2k on a mini

which means your Mini loses 42% over 3 years not 33%

the lotus sepc is sports tourer or race tech both at 26.995k not 23k so you lose 46% not 37%

the typr R honda as about 19.5k with air con and stuff so thats a massive 50% loss in 3 years

do this to every car and see whats best.

LuS1fer

41,130 posts

245 months

Friday 26th May 2006
quotequote all
Weird that that Perodua Kelisa does so well. Must have been James May's ringing endorsement on TG all those years ago that the OAP's tuned into.

Andrew Noakes

914 posts

240 months

Friday 26th May 2006
quotequote all
The Perodua only gets into the list because it costs so little to start with. It still loses 72% of its value, which is right up there with the worst of them...