RE: Mercedes C63 AMG

Tuesday 25th December 2007

Mercedes C63 AMG

Mercedes believes the C63 AMG is a serious contender to the BMW M3 and Audi RS4. Nick Hall finds out if it has got what it takes...



It was the moment when the rear-end of the car jacked out to an ego-preening angle and the tyres continued to smoke round the hairpin at Paul Ricard that it became clear the C63 AMG is no ordinary Mercedes. In fact it marks a total shift in the company philosophy that should have real drivers heading to Mercedes showrooms in droves. This is because in the not too distant past every Mercedes would have hit a sensible button somewhere deep within its soul and taken over, killing the power and hauling the car back to a straight line with more electrical interference than the perfect storm. Not this time. Here it was purely down to me to put in the requisite amount of opposite lock and power round the bend in a deeply satisfying twist of car control. ‘Sports’ mode allows for a little tail-out fun before this Merc gives a disapproving look and collects it all, but the good news is the electronics can now be turned off, although they will come back in if you hit the brakes hard enough.


There is more than enough mechanical help though, as the car we took on track was fitted with the optional £4000 Performance Pack that includes a Limited Slip Diff with 40% locking, as well as firmed-up suspension, thicker anti-roll bars and a top-end speed of 174mph compared to the standard 155mph limit. With this in place the car pitched into bends far less and understeer was easier to counter with a dose of power. The downside is it makes the Mercedes even stiffer than the M3 and isn’t perfectly suited to the public road. Even without the Performance Pack the C63 is a proper driver’s car that will put the fear of God into the M3 and RS4. Priced to head straight into battle with the pair of them this is the first Mercedes since the legendary Cosworth-engined 190 2.5. The C63 comfortably wins the power war with the BMW and Audi. The M3 has 420bhp, leaving behind the 414bhp RS4, but Mercedes has raised the bar way above them now, with its 6.2-litre, 457bhp V8.

For a Mercedes it revs hard too, topping out at 7200, with peak power railing through the road just 400rpm below that redline. But torque has always been the secret of these big, rumbling engines that sound of an old-school fighter plane on a hard charge. And despite the capacity, it weighs in at 199kg, compared to the 202kg M3’s four-litre. Magnesium intake manifolds, aluminium crank case and other high tech materials help, and the engine also comes with coated cylinders and can regulate its own fuel pressure from 3.8 to 5 bar, which sounds pretty impressive on its own. As does the 443lb/ft of torque, which comes in at 5000rpm.


With the seven-speed box never short of a sweet spot, there’s no break in the linear acceleration but it lacks the urgency of a manual change M3. It’s no less impressive though and has a Sports Auto mode, which lets the engine eat the final revs before shifting faster and smoother than we could ever hope to. The standard mode is the one for the Autobahn, with short shifts and low revs giving it a cruising attitude. In full Manual mode, controlled with a familiar paddle-shift system, it will actually run right into the limiter, refusing to change without the order, and slap the throttle, more than blip it, on the downshift. It doesn’t boast the full adjustability or outright speed of BMW’s SMG, but then that ‘box is fatally flawed by its total lack of a comfort setting. Mercedes’ three available modes each do the job to near perfection.


The C63 still feels nose heavy and the meaty square-bottom steering wheel takes muscle to throw deep into the bends, but the adjustability on the throttle is stunning and the car can be guided through the bend with the right foot. Opposite lock is purely optional, but once pushed into a slide it’s easily held with a deft twist on the wheel and not much else. It’s an easy car to drive beyond the limit and AMG expect owners to take it to a track to find out. Before the trip to the test track we were granted access to the kind of coast road that dreams are made of. Sweeping fast corners and switchback hairpins gave us a chance to explore the limits of the car. It felt like a different animal, rolling into the bends but on the mountain road the pitch and natural, gentle understeer made it an easy machine to lean on. It will give you all the fun you can handle on most roads and despite its kerbweight of 1730kg it’s more than agile enough for the wealthy free spirit who’ll drive them.


AMG borrowed a front axle from the CLK63 AMG Black Series so the front is 35mm wider than standard and is apparently firmed up by no less than 100% as a result. There is a 12mm wider rear, revised multi-link rear suspension, and bigger driveshafts and joints. It doesn’t have quite the razor sharp handling of the M3 but it makes up for that with ride quality and smoothness. It looks the part as well. The mean-looking front grille sits below power bulges on the bonnet that might as well be horns. A new rear apron to accommodate four polished exhausts and a vacuous diffuser joins up with a lip spoiler to sharpen the rear and side skirts. Again it’s more conservative than the M3, but only just, bringing it down on the right side of the class/crass divide. It’s a bit spartan inside for a car that costs more than £52,000. The plastics are too similar to the base C Class, although the aluminium trim does lift the cabin slightly. But the C63 is all about function and form has taken a back seat in the hot seat at least.


The C63 may not quite have the handling to slay the M3 or the RS4 but it’s close enough and as an all-round package the Mercedes is a much better bet. The brute force of that V8 engine and rear-wheel drive that can be finally controlled with the right foot rather than by computer is enough to swing my vote. This is the best real driver’s car from Mercedes since the 190 Cosworth and overall AMG has shown the competition a fading trail of tyre smoke. Who knows where the power war will head next, but right now this is just about as extreme as a daily driver needs to be.

 

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peter_964rs

Original Poster:

287 posts

273 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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The same engine in the E63 produces much more power. Why restrict it here? Might as well stomp on the opposition from a great height....

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

239 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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peter_964rs said:
The same engine in the E63 produces much more power. Why restrict it here? Might as well stomp on the opposition from a great height....
So you can up the power for next years model.

Beemer-5

7,897 posts

214 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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It seems it's the best street car in it's class but behind the new M3 on the track.

dvs_dave

8,601 posts

225 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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Need to a spend more time proof reading things guys. Aside from that, an interesting article.

Dr G

15,160 posts

242 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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Yup, enjoyed reading that with my Xmas morning cuppa biggrin

I still dislike recent Mercedes styling efforts (interior and exterior) and I think for a road car I'd still plump for quattro security and the stealth missile that is an RS4 smile

Beemer-5

7,897 posts

214 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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The RS4 is a great all-rounder.
Someone i know with a tuned Evo 340 couldn't shake an RS4 off on a pretty quick drive in Provence recently.
Despite the Audi being a lot heavier.

shadowninja

76,323 posts

282 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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Clarkson called it a monster. That sells it for me. biggrin

itr786

108 posts

207 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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A monster thats shit around bends, if i didn't know any better id think it was made over the pond by the fat yanks, for the fat yanks.

Don't think people realise how much quicker the M3 is compared to this 'thing', around the lap on top gear this week in was 5 SECONDS A LAP QUICKER!, and this wasn't the nurbergring (spell check), it was a 2.45mins circuit.


shadowninja

76,323 posts

282 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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itr786 said:
A monster that makes average and bad drivers look shit.
EFA.

I understand it has a good suspension but just too much power to drive properly. Note that Clarkson did turn stability control off, hence the sideways action.

I would take this car over the other two because it would give me the most thrills. I don't care about quick lap times. It's about fun.

tali1

5,266 posts

201 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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If it has to be a merc amg - reckon a CLS63 is a much better drive

Beemer-5

7,897 posts

214 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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shadowninja said:
itr786 said:
A monster that makes average and bad drivers look shit.
EFA.

I understand it has a good suspension but just too much power to drive properly. Note that Clarkson did turn stability control off, hence the sideways action.

I would take this car over the other two because it would give me the most thrills. I don't care about quick lap times. It's about fun.
Agreed. Make it 500 bhp, too, like the other Mercs with the same engine!

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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itr786 said:
A monster thats shit around bends, if i didn't know any better id think it was made over the pond by the fat yanks, for the fat yanks.

Don't think people realise how much quicker the M3 is compared to this 'thing', around the lap on top gear this week in was 5 SECONDS A LAP QUICKER!, and this wasn't the nurbergring (spell check), it was a 2.45mins circuit.
I find it funny when the "Yank cars are shit around bends" idiots stick their head up over and over.....it just takes some folks so long to get around a stereotype. hehe.....but I digress, back to the Merc. smile

Beemer-5

7,897 posts

214 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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Jimbeaux said:
itr786 said:
A monster thats shit around bends, if i didn't know any better id think it was made over the pond by the fat yanks, for the fat yanks.

Don't think people realise how much quicker the M3 is compared to this 'thing', around the lap on top gear this week in was 5 SECONDS A LAP QUICKER!, and this wasn't the nurbergring (spell check), it was a 2.45mins circuit.
I find it funny when the "Yank cars are shit around bends" idiots stick their head up over and over.....it just takes some folks so long to get around a stereotype. hehe.....but I digress, back to the Merc. smile
Aye, eg, the Corvette Z06 is one of the most entertaining drives you could wish for, brilliant car.

CooperS

4,501 posts

219 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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itr786 said:
A monster thats shit around bends, if i didn't know any better id think it was made over the pond by the fat yanks, for the fat yanks.

Don't think people realise how much quicker the M3 is compared to this 'thing', around the lap on top gear this week in was 5 SECONDS A LAP QUICKER!, and this wasn't the nurbergring (spell check), it was a 2.45mins circuit.
Never been on a track but i would feel fairly sure you drive with slightly more aggression on a track than on road so unlike on a track the limits which mark it down on the M3 are never reached on the road (or shouldn't be) so who cares whether the M3 is 5 secs faster?

I think the average person who buys the C63 wont head for the nearest track so wont feel to concerned that at 100 mph they're car isn't going to corner as well as the M3. What they will care about is styling, feel/build inside and the noise it makes which is all personal opinion.

I saw a white one in Berlin and it looked really good and stood out from the dark/dull 911 cabs that seem to litter Berlin. I thought is was a bit too bling and in ya face for me but the sound was amazing. Saw a CL63 AMG in southampton a while ago and that really does look like a monster!


drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

211 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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I saw a C63 in Brighton several weeks ago - it really seemed to be a handful and the impression I got from following it rather closely was that it seemed to have real issues tramlining. Hard to tell from just a few minutes following, but it definately seemed like a handful

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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Beemer-5 said:
Jimbeaux said:
itr786 said:
A monster thats shit around bends, if i didn't know any better id think it was made over the pond by the fat yanks, for the fat yanks.

Don't think people realise how much quicker the M3 is compared to this 'thing', around the lap on top gear this week in was 5 SECONDS A LAP QUICKER!, and this wasn't the nurbergring (spell check), it was a 2.45mins circuit.
I find it funny when the "Yank cars are shit around bends" idiots stick their head up over and over.....it just takes some folks so long to get around a stereotype. hehe.....but I digress, back to the Merc. smile
Aye, eg, the Corvette Z06 is one of the most entertaining drives you could wish for, brilliant car.
Agreed, but that is not enough for some of these types. They will then go into it being "ancient tech"...as if evolution of said tech has not occured over the years. Why do people want to complicate something in a way that will not improve it, only...well...complicate it??

ganser

103 posts

199 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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if i was in the market for a coupe then i'd be comparing the M3 to something like a 911. On the other hand if i wanted something more practical then i'd go for the C63. The RS4 is nice but its almost 3 years old, whereas the Mercs bang up to date. And whatever engine's in the M3 saloon it can't make up for the way it looks. Frankly i wouldn't care about the performance differences - i doubt many owners would rag their pride and joy the way they do on Top Gear to prove a 5sec lap difference. All of these cars road rockets and nobody would be disappointed with their choice. Btw the Evo340 is significantly faster around a track than the RS4 and 997 C4 as Evo mag proved

Dunk76

4,350 posts

214 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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drivin_me_nuts said:
I saw a C63 in Brighton several weeks ago - it really seemed to be a handful and the impression I got from following it rather closely was that it seemed to have real issues tramlining. Hard to tell from just a few minutes following, but it definately seemed like a handful
Are they actually out over here then?

Personally I think it's a brilliant thing - it's taken them a long time to replace the sublime 16 valve 190Es of the Eighties, the older C-AMG cars more akin to Alpinas in the 90s than M3s.

Shame it's not a CSL style homologation special really, but it does spur the thought - perhaps an Evolution or DTM Edition version is in the wings with more power, less weight, etc?

It does leave the performance saloon enthusiast with the biggest choice for a long time once the M3 Saloon arrives doesn't it?

If you want to scare the kids on the school run before smoking off to your next meeting, you can have a C63 AMG, an RS4/RS6, M3 Saloon, Alpina B3 Bi-Turbo, Lexus IS-F, and the VXR8.

top work motor manufacturing fellas!



Trooper2

6,676 posts

231 months

Tuesday 25th December 2007
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Beemer-5 said:
Jimbeaux said:
itr786 said:
A monster thats shit around bends, if i didn't know any better id think it was made over the pond by the fat yanks, for the fat yanks.

Don't think people realise how much quicker the M3 is compared to this 'thing', around the lap on top gear this week in was 5 SECONDS A LAP QUICKER!, and this wasn't the nurbergring (spell check), it was a 2.45mins circuit.
I find it funny when the "Yank cars are shit around bends" idiots stick their head up over and over.....it just takes some folks so long to get around a stereotype. hehe.....but I digress, back to the Merc. smile
Aye, eg, the Corvette Z06 is one of the most entertaining drives you could wish for, brilliant car.
That Euro car probably can't drive in a straight line or drag race worth a damn......hehe

illocon

50 posts

201 months

Wednesday 26th December 2007
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as much as I think an RS4 Avant would be the better purchase, the C63 just looks as if you'd take so much joy from the ridiculous straight line speed from traffic lights - there's a few on the bypass round mine - and the overwhelming noise.

As I don't drive on tracks, and because the new M3 isn't too my taste, I wouldn't consider one of them.

of course, all of this is pointless as I don't have enough cash to pay for a set of tyres for any of these cars let alone contemplate the finance!