Scrappage Scheme - To Sell Or Scrap Cars
Discussion
Thought this was introduced to shift stock?
So why do vehicles need a MOT,Tax and Test?
Appreciate that somebody should have owned the vehicle for a duration to avoid a £50 scrapper to gain the "£2K off deal" BUT if most of the scrappage exchange vehicles end up "scrapped" why the need for MOT/Tax/Test?
So why do vehicles need a MOT,Tax and Test?
Appreciate that somebody should have owned the vehicle for a duration to avoid a £50 scrapper to gain the "£2K off deal" BUT if most of the scrappage exchange vehicles end up "scrapped" why the need for MOT/Tax/Test?
T5R+ said:
Thought this was introduced to shift stock?
So why do vehicles need a MOT,Tax and Test?
Appreciate that somebody should have owned the vehicle for a duration to avoid a £50 scrapper to gain the "£2K off deal" BUT if most of the scrappage exchange vehicles end up "scrapped" why the need for MOT/Tax/Test?
I believe the government reasoning works something as follows:-So why do vehicles need a MOT,Tax and Test?
Appreciate that somebody should have owned the vehicle for a duration to avoid a £50 scrapper to gain the "£2K off deal" BUT if most of the scrappage exchange vehicles end up "scrapped" why the need for MOT/Tax/Test?
Scrap your existing car which is in daily use (old, not environmentally friendly e.t.c) and trade it in for a new less polluting model.
If everyone was to trade in cars that are not in daily use, there would be no benefit, as you would not be removing higher polluting cars from the road.
Ignoring all the stuff relating to the environmental cost of building/shipping a new vehicle e.t.c
This is what BERR replied to my email asking about written off cars and scrappage.
WRITE-OFF
My car is a write-off; does it still qualify for the scheme?
Category A & B write-offs are not eligible.
Category D write-offs are eligible, provided it meets the registration, tax, insurance and MOT criteria.
Category C write-offs before April 2003 are eligible, provided it meets the registration, tax, insurance and MOT criteria.
What happens if my car is a Category C write-off after April 2003?
For cars designated category C write-offs after April 2003, if the car has a Vehicle Identity Check (VIC) marker on it, it will need to pass a VIC test, and have a replacement V5C issued, before it can be eligible for the scheme.
The Dealer will need to contact VOSA (Vehicle and Operator Services Agency) on 0300 123 9000 to find out whether there is a VIC marker on the car. If there is, then you will need to arrange to have VIC test carried out on the car. This can be done at one of VOSA’s 57 VIC testing stations nationwide. The charge for the test is £41 or £50 if the test is carried out of hours.
If the vehicle passes the test, a VIC Pass Certificate (VIC20) will be issued. You should then apply to DVLA for a replacement V5C using a V62 application form. All V5Cs issued following a VIC pass are annotated “"Accident damaged and/or substantially repaired; identity checked on dd/mm/yyyy”"
The VIC scheme only applies to vehicles in vehicle category M1.
What happens if my car is a Category C write-off after April 2003 but a VIC marker has not been set?
The dealer will need to check with VOSA that a VIC Marker has not been set. If the dealer is satisfied that there is no VIC Marker, the vehicle is eligible providing all the other criteria of the scheme are met.
How can I check the write-off category of my vehicle?
You will need to use a commercial vehicle check company such as Experian; HPI; Carweb and CDL Vehicle Information Services. These companies obtain vehicle information from a variety of different sources and charge for their services. DVLA is unable to provide any information on the write-off category of a vehicle.
Can I scrap my old vehicle before ordering a new vehicle from the dealer?
No. The old vehicle must be disposed of by the dealer
WRITE-OFF
My car is a write-off; does it still qualify for the scheme?
Category A & B write-offs are not eligible.
Category D write-offs are eligible, provided it meets the registration, tax, insurance and MOT criteria.
Category C write-offs before April 2003 are eligible, provided it meets the registration, tax, insurance and MOT criteria.
What happens if my car is a Category C write-off after April 2003?
For cars designated category C write-offs after April 2003, if the car has a Vehicle Identity Check (VIC) marker on it, it will need to pass a VIC test, and have a replacement V5C issued, before it can be eligible for the scheme.
The Dealer will need to contact VOSA (Vehicle and Operator Services Agency) on 0300 123 9000 to find out whether there is a VIC marker on the car. If there is, then you will need to arrange to have VIC test carried out on the car. This can be done at one of VOSA’s 57 VIC testing stations nationwide. The charge for the test is £41 or £50 if the test is carried out of hours.
If the vehicle passes the test, a VIC Pass Certificate (VIC20) will be issued. You should then apply to DVLA for a replacement V5C using a V62 application form. All V5Cs issued following a VIC pass are annotated “"Accident damaged and/or substantially repaired; identity checked on dd/mm/yyyy”"
The VIC scheme only applies to vehicles in vehicle category M1.
What happens if my car is a Category C write-off after April 2003 but a VIC marker has not been set?
The dealer will need to check with VOSA that a VIC Marker has not been set. If the dealer is satisfied that there is no VIC Marker, the vehicle is eligible providing all the other criteria of the scheme are met.
How can I check the write-off category of my vehicle?
You will need to use a commercial vehicle check company such as Experian; HPI; Carweb and CDL Vehicle Information Services. These companies obtain vehicle information from a variety of different sources and charge for their services. DVLA is unable to provide any information on the write-off category of a vehicle.
Can I scrap my old vehicle before ordering a new vehicle from the dealer?
No. The old vehicle must be disposed of by the dealer
J500ANT said:
va1o said:
What the hell is the point of running a VIC test on a car that is going to go to the scrapper 
Absoulete madness
£50 for a VIC test (or thereabouts)Absoulete madness
£2000 from scrappage.
Thats the point.
I assume because the government don't want a load of field stored s
tters getting traded in for scrappage, the idea seems to be that they are aiming for no impact on the overall number of cars on the road allow any vehicle and someone might trailer in a few then sell them off making a profit.
tters getting traded in for scrappage, the idea seems to be that they are aiming for no impact on the overall number of cars on the road allow any vehicle and someone might trailer in a few then sell them off making a profit.I've just traded in my Cat-C write off W124 under the scrappage scheme and the process was;
- New MOT on the car (repaired with gaffa tape) after the accident.
- Wait for insurance company to put a VIC marker on the car after claim is paid out.
- Take car to VOSA for a VIC check (smidge under £50) to prove it's not a post accident cut-n-shut.
- Request a new V5. The dealer did this though. I just gave them the car, V5 (log book), new MOT and VIC pass certificate.
That's it.
From accident to new car took 3 weeks and the Merc that cost me £1,500 three years and 50k miles ago got me £2k off a new car, plus the payout from the insurance went towards it too. In reality the car gave me 3 years of reliable motoring and nearly £3k back at the end for £1,500
- New MOT on the car (repaired with gaffa tape) after the accident.
- Wait for insurance company to put a VIC marker on the car after claim is paid out.
- Take car to VOSA for a VIC check (smidge under £50) to prove it's not a post accident cut-n-shut.
- Request a new V5. The dealer did this though. I just gave them the car, V5 (log book), new MOT and VIC pass certificate.
That's it.
From accident to new car took 3 weeks and the Merc that cost me £1,500 three years and 50k miles ago got me £2k off a new car, plus the payout from the insurance went towards it too. In reality the car gave me 3 years of reliable motoring and nearly £3k back at the end for £1,500
The scrappage scheme is a con. It only works if your car really is absolutely worthless (i.e a shagged out 1996 Megane for example), and with the amount of ex demo and pre-registered stuff out there you don't need to buy spanking new anyway.
The other con is the huge cost. Forget for a minute the £1000 the Guvvmint is putting in because they'll get the VAT on new car sales.
No, it's the fact that they're scrapping 300'000 cars, and this is very wrong in two ways. Firstly, a very large proportion of those are still decent and useable and thus depriving the lower echelons of society of cheap useful cars.
The other is the amount of money wasted. Let's assume the average value of a trade in is £500. That takes into account the £100 N reg Cavalier, and also the £1500 T reg Mercedes C Class.
300'000 x £500 is 1.5 billion pounds, and these morons have just given it away. As far as I'm aware, the scrapyards don't pay anything for these cars. Copart, the company dealing with a lot of these poor cars, is a US company. Nice!
Rather than scrapping them, a sensible gorvernment would have auctioned everything off on a no reserve basis to the highest bidder and pocketed between 1.2 and 1.6 billion quid. But this is the Government of idiot Brown and that vile little creep Mandelson.
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