Pub to home conversion
Discussion
With the number of pubs going up for sales at the moment, has anyone had any experience of buying a pub and converting it into a home
? The advantages are obvious - huge rooms, garden and parking spaces
! But how difficult is it to get planning permission to change a pub into a home and what about the VAT you have to pay for a pub
?
? The advantages are obvious - huge rooms, garden and parking spaces! But how difficult is it to get planning permission to change a pub into a home and what about the VAT you have to pay for a pub?Edited by quyen on Wednesday 22 July 10:48
spikeyhead said:
It's usually only worthn doing when there's room in the carpark and garden to build a few extra houses.
Why's that? The last thing I would want is to build houses close to mine when I can have the extra land/space. I've been looking at quite a few pubs myself to buy and convert into a more interesting/spacious home for myself. 109 Bob said:
I suppose it depends a lot on if you're buying the pub as a trading business & property or just the property. If just the property then there are some real bargains to be had at the moment.
I know nothing about running a pub so it will have to be converted into a nice home. Can you buy the pub, keep it close and live upstairs (which is already residential) whilst using the downstairs unofficially
as a living room (i.e when you're still waiting for planning permission to come through
)? Is there any costs associated with keeping the pub close e.g. business rate
? quyen said:
109 Bob said:
I suppose it depends a lot on if you're buying the pub as a trading business & property or just the property. If just the property then there are some real bargains to be had at the moment.
I know nothing about running a pub so it will have to be converted into a nice home. Can you buy the pub, keep it close and live upstairs (which is already residential) whilst using the downstairs unofficially
as a living room (i.e when you're still waiting for planning permission to come through)? Is there any costs associated with keeping the pub close e.g. business rate? mk1fan said:
There are lots of empty ex-pubs that don't have licenses which are - effectively - worthless. They're the bargains.
A going concern will be more expensive and I expect you'll receive objections from the public at the planning application stage.
That is exactly what I was trying to say. A going concern will be more expensive and I expect you'll receive objections from the public at the planning application stage.
If it's a closed pub the equipment, pumps coolers etc. will probably of been removed. You'll only be buying a property with no business attached, rather than buying a property & a business.
On another note, something I would be careful of is that a lot of pubs are obviously old & some may have been built pacifically as a pub. So if the building is listed, grade 2 for example, you may run into planning problems changing it into a residence from a pub. I am not an expert & am just suggesting that you really need to talk to someone that is.
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This is at the end of our street, I soooooooo want to buy it and convert it.
This is at the end of our street, I soooooooo want to buy it and convert it.
mk1fan said:
Great idea - as you say loads of space but the place will stink. Years of booze, spillages (booze and human) and probable poor maintenance so a full strip out would be needed. Even then the smell may never go away.
When I lived in a run down rental house I blagged a free carpet from my local, during a winter renovation. I fitted it to my large bedroom, looked very nice, faint smeel of beer, no prblems.
But when the summer came round and it all warmed up the smell of fag smoke, stale beer, puke, blood, sweaty feet etc, became nauseating. I scrubbed and powdered that carpet several times before the vile odour faded.
King Herald said:
When I lived in a run down rental house I blagged a free carpet from my local, during a winter renovation. I fitted it to my large bedroom, looked very nice, faint smeel of beer, no prblems.
But when the summer came round and it all warmed up the smell of fag smoke, stale beer, puke, blood, sweaty feet etc, became nauseating. I scrubbed and powdered that carpet several times before the vile odour faded.
But when the summer came round and it all warmed up the smell of fag smoke, stale beer, puke, blood, sweaty feet etc, became nauseating. I scrubbed and powdered that carpet several times before the vile odour faded.
I'd rather have had bare floorboards!My Brother has a an ex pub, it was already a residence when he bought it.
He has since extended it twice without too much planning objection.
With regard to them being built differently, some of the widow ledges are 18" which would indicate slightly thicker walls than the average house.
He has since extended it twice without too much planning objection.
With regard to them being built differently, some of the widow ledges are 18" which would indicate slightly thicker walls than the average house.
Lefty Guns said:
If it was my pub and I was in the mood to be a stubborn git then I wouldn't sell it and just continue to use the accommodation part to live in. Where would the locals be with their essential job creator for the community be then? I'm sure a few years down the road the council would have a rethink as it would never be a pub again. Gassing Station | Homes, Gardens and DIY | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff