JSA - taxable income??

JSA - taxable income??

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sleep envy

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62,260 posts

248 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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Received a letter in the post from HMRC yesterday informing me that seeing as I have now found gainful employment I will be taxed on the £1,620 of JSA I received in the 7 months I was out of work.

They must have been pissing themselves when they came up with that idea.

MOTORVATOR

6,993 posts

246 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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Rightly so you benefit scrounger. Just lucky for us taxpayers that you weren't born with a fanny.biggrin

Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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Introduced by Mrs T back in the 80s - you know, the great heoine of PH - to motivate all those "dole scroungers" to look for jobs.

Job Seeker's Allowance, as well as State Pensions, are taxable even though you have, in theory, funded them out of taxed income during periods when you were earning.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

241 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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Surely as your PAYE will be based on a monthly break down of your tax free allowance, you'll actually need a higher tax code for the rest of the tax year, or a rebate at the end of it?

Kit80

4,764 posts

186 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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I think it's contributions based JSA is taxable, I have just signed on >shudder< and got told on contributions based JSA it is a taxable income off any others benefits I may be entitled to. Sense much not.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

241 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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Kit80 said:
Sense much not.
Argument here none.

FWT?



Edited by Justayellowbadge on Tuesday 16th February 11:02

Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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Kit80 said:
I think it's contributions based JSA is taxable, I have just signed on >shudder< and got told on contributions based JSA it is a taxable income off any others benefits I may be entitled to. Sense much not.
The tax rules on State Benefits are a total mess. Some are taxable, some are not. There is no logic to the system.

Ironically, Tax Credits are tax free.

Kit80

4,764 posts

186 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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Justayellowbadge said:
Kit80 said:
Sense much not.
Argument here none.



FWT?



Edited by Justayellowbadge on Tuesday 16th February 11:02
I don't understand your insults anymore sorry hehe What? For Win The Yoda confused

Kit80

4,764 posts

186 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Kit80 said:
I think it's contributions based JSA is taxable, I have just signed on >shudder< and got told on contributions based JSA it is a taxable income off any others benefits I may be entitled to. Sense much not.
The tax rules on State Benefits are a total mess. Some are taxable, some are not. There is no logic to the system.

Ironically, Tax Credits are tax free.
You telling me there is no logic, worked for 15 years of my life and what help am I getting now even though I am clearly the only one in the Job Centre looking for work...bugger all and what help I am getting I am being taxed on. So they tax me all my life on the understanding I can be supported when I need it...nooooooo.

Am off to do something Doley in revenge like set fire to OAP.

sleep envy

Original Poster:

62,260 posts

248 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Introduced by Mrs T back in the 80s - you know, the great heoine of PH - to motivate all those "dole scroungers" to look for jobs.

Job Seeker's Allowance, as well as State Pensions, are taxable even though you have, in theory, funded them out of taxed income during periods when you were earning.
so the £100 they gave me as a 'bonus' once I found a job funds the tax I am to pay?

priceless

soad

32,829 posts

175 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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sleep envy said:
so the £100 they gave me as a 'bonus' once I found a job funds the tax I am to pay? priceless
It wouldn't surprise me.

Dupont666

21,604 posts

191 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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sleep envy said:
Eric Mc said:
Introduced by Mrs T back in the 80s - you know, the great heoine of PH - to motivate all those "dole scroungers" to look for jobs.

Job Seeker's Allowance, as well as State Pensions, are taxable even though you have, in theory, funded them out of taxed income during periods when you were earning.
so the £100 they gave me as a 'bonus' once I found a job funds the tax I am to pay?

priceless
You got a bonus.... WTF...

WHERE THE HELL WAS MINE!! grumpy

I got a job without wasting their time too...

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

198 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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sleep envy said:
Eric Mc said:
Introduced by Mrs T back in the 80s - you know, the great heoine of PH - to motivate all those "dole scroungers" to look for jobs.

Job Seeker's Allowance, as well as State Pensions, are taxable even though you have, in theory, funded them out of taxed income during periods when you were earning.
so the £100 they gave me as a 'bonus' once I found a job funds the tax I am to pay?

priceless
Just please tell me you parked the GT3 as close to the Job Centre as possible when signing on.

sleep envy

Original Poster:

62,260 posts

248 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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Dupont666 said:
You got a bonus.... WTF...

WHERE THE HELL WAS MINE!! grumpy

I got a job without wasting their time too...
I thought you didn't sign on?

Dupont666

21,604 posts

191 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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sleep envy said:
Dupont666 said:
You got a bonus.... WTF...

WHERE THE HELL WAS MINE!! grumpy

I got a job without wasting their time too...
I thought you didn't sign on?
Had to, simply to get the tax credits without hassle from IR later...

Viper_Larry

4,319 posts

255 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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sleep envy said:
Received a letter in the post from HMRC yesterday informing me that seeing as I have now found gainful employment I will be taxed on the £1,620 of JSA I received in the 7 months I was out of work.

They must have been pissing themselves when they came up with that idea.
Thanks for that, made my day that did rolleyes

However, just speaking to my accountant, don't forget that any earnings for 2009 (before you got made redundant) will likely have been over taxed and you could be due a tax refund - I certainly am and quite a bit too. Might be worth submitting your tax return in April to get the refund ASAP.

sleep envy

Original Poster:

62,260 posts

248 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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noted, cheers

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

241 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Oh. Right.

sday12

5,053 posts

210 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Viper_Larry said:
sleep envy said:
Received a letter in the post from HMRC yesterday informing me that seeing as I have now found gainful employment I will be taxed on the £1,620 of JSA I received in the 7 months I was out of work.

They must have been pissing themselves when they came up with that idea.
Thanks for that, made my day that did rolleyes

However, just speaking to my accountant, don't forget that any earnings for 2009 (before you got made redundant) will likely have been over taxed and you could be due a tax refund - I certainly am and quite a bit too. Might be worth submitting your tax return in April to get the refund ASAP.
Yep, Got a rebate of £800 quid as the tax I paid was based on me earning that much for each month for the whole year.

blueg33

35,577 posts

223 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Chris_w666 said:
sleep envy said:
Eric Mc said:
Introduced by Mrs T back in the 80s - you know, the great heoine of PH - to motivate all those "dole scroungers" to look for jobs.

Job Seeker's Allowance, as well as State Pensions, are taxable even though you have, in theory, funded them out of taxed income during periods when you were earning.
so the £100 they gave me as a 'bonus' once I found a job funds the tax I am to pay?

priceless
Just please tell me you parked the GT3 as close to the Job Centre as possible when signing on.
When I was made redundant and told that despite contributing £100's of thousands they would only give me £60- a week to feed the familiy of four, wheras the immigrant at the desk next to me got £250 per week and a house, i made sure I parked the A6 in the staff spaces in front of the job centre each time i signed on.

The system is mad, being unemployed for 5 months cost me circa £100k in lost income and the hit on my savings (released equity on my house thank heavens for a one account mortgage), I have contributed massively in taxes through my own hard work and got sod all back when i needed it, yet people who have contributed nothing get everything paid for.