RE: Driven: BMW 535i SE

RE: Driven: BMW 535i SE

Thursday 15th April 2010

Driven: BMW 535i SE

PH puts more (unexpected) miles on 'der neue 5'



After accidentally volunteering to drive a new 5-series home from the edge of the French Pyrenees last month, I found myself blundering off BMW's charter flight at a little place named Pau.


Sports fans may know Pau as the home of the first ever motor race to be called a 'Grand Prix' in 1903. It was held over a Monaco-esque street circuit that survives to this day, and which achieved YouTube notoriety last year when the BMW 320 leading a WTCC race ploughed unceremoniously into the safety car. How we laughed.

The safety car driver probably felt a bit sheepish after that incident, as I did on stepping off the aeroplane to find the pleasant little Friday afternoon hop over the channel I'd been contemplating (naturally with a stop for a decent bit of lunch at BMW's expense), had been morphed into a significant road trip by an unexpected extra hour in the air.

Still, even though it meant buying a toothbrush and wearing the same clothes two days running, I've always been seduced by the romance of a long drive so it wasn't all bad. (Not that the reality of French motorway facilities is necessarily that romantic, but you know what I mean.)


We were introduced to our steeds at a picturesque Pyrenean goat shed which some rustic types had turned into a centre for local gastronomy. And with that decent lunch under my belt after all, things were definitely looking up as with my fellow hacks we surveyed the ranks of new 5ers ranged across the hillside before us.

PH's car was to be a 535i, in Space Grey, with the new twin-scroll, single turbo version of BMW's 3.0 six-cylinder, and in SE trim which delivers a more impressive kit roster with every succeeding generation. The 535i costs £37k in standard SE guise but BMW's press fleet managers had managed to load the beast up with an impressive £14,305 of 'must have' extras.


The weightier options on our car included Adaptive Drive at £2,200, the £2,820 Dynamic package (special 19ins alloys, sports seats, exterior 'shadowline' effects and anthracite headlining), 8-speed sport auto transmission at £1,605, active steering at £1,300, a £1,210 Visibility package (Adaptive Headlights, Xenon headlights, Headlight wash, Rain and High-beam Assistant), a £1,960 Professional Multimedia package (Navigation system - BMW Professional Multimedia, Bluetooth telephone preparation with telematics, BMW Assist, BMW Online and Voice Control) and a £940 Head-Up display.

With a few other gewgaws lobbed-in, that means I'd been handed the keys to a motor with a £52k price tag and probably the logarithmic capacity to drive itself home. But I couldn't find a button for that, which suited me fine.


Although a long high-speed autoroute/motorway drive is hardly the best way to establish a view about a new car's handling, it's a great chance to build a beautiful relationship. Especially in France, where the empty autoroutes give you a chance to explore and fiddle without worrying too much about drifting into the path of other traffic at 120mph while your head is buried under the dash looking for hidden switchgear - or stray Pringles, for that matter. (And yes, I'm exaggerating. A little...)

Not that you'll find much stray switchgear on the Bimmer, as pretty much everything is automated or accessed through an iDrive unit whose functions are getting ever more complicated, yet which remains pleasingly intuitive to play with. I managed to use the nav system POIs and the integrated phone hook-up to find and make a reservation at a hotel in Tours on our way back to Blighty without pulling over, which may be old-hat to more seasoned iDrivers but made me feel quite smug.


We've reported on the new 5 series already, of course, but that article concentrated more on the car's dynamic attributes than its 'everyday' core values, which are remarkably impressive.

It's always a delight to wind a BMW six up to the limiter, and doing so in the 535i will not disappoint, either from a performance perspective or the pleasing yowl the engine makes when pressed. But on a long run like this, it's just as delightful to enjoy the peace and quietude the new machine offers. The cabin may not be quite as tactile or engaging as a Jaguar XF, but it's unquestionably an extremely relaxing place to travel. The new 8-speed auto option makes a big difference while cruising too, offering almost imperceptible changes and adding to the sense of wafting refinement. (It has an impressive sport mode with paddle shifts too, but why bother on the autoroute?)


Additionally, the latest suspension set-up seems to offer a little more subtlety and suppleness while cruising than its predecessor, while retaining great poise and stability through fast lane changes, or those rapidly tightening slip-roads the French use to tauten the sphincter muscles of excessive speeders.

As our earlier report hinted, the car's plethora of electronic systems may have slightly marginalised the driver from some of the rawer thrills of conducting this latest iteration of the 5, for instance with regard to the feel of the electronic steering. But it's undoubtedly an athletic machine in spite of that, and spending a couple of days on a high-mileage road-trip is enough to prove the new version remains one of the world's truly great all-rounders.

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Beefmeister

Original Poster:

16,482 posts

230 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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I've seen a few of these around now, and they look really nice in the metal. Much nicer than the E60 in my eyes.

I can't wait to see the new M5.... lick

james_tigerwoods

16,287 posts

197 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Looks like a great big 3 series - not unlike the Pug 605 looked like a big 405 and I don't remember that being a good thing....

But these options?
  • Adaptive Drive - £2,200
  • Dynamic package (special 19ins alloys, sports seats, exterior 'shadowline' effects and anthracite headlining) - £2,820
  • 8-speed sport auto transmission - £1,605
  • Active steering a- £1,300
  • Visibility package (Adaptive Headlights, Xenon headlights, Headlight wash, Rain and High-beam Assistant) - £1,210
  • Professional Multimedia package (Navigation system - BMW Professional Multimedia, Bluetooth telephone preparation with telematics, BMW Assist, BMW Online and Voice Control) - £1,960
  • Head-Up display - £940
Would anyone really spec a car with ALL of these?

What is a "High beam assitant" anyway - is that in case you don't know when you're dazzling other cars?

E21_Ross

35,068 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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james_tigerwoods said:
Looks like a great big 3 series
like 5 series have done for god knows how long? a few examples:

3 series:



5 series:



next 3 series:




next 5 series:


you may be onto something there mate....just 30 years behind wink

i've seen a new one in the metal and it does look better than in the pics it seems, but i still don't like it's styling. maybe it will grow on me like the E60 once it has some Msport body trim on it? hmmm

Edited by E21_Ross on Thursday 15th April 09:46

james_tigerwoods

16,287 posts

197 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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But the last models look better and different enough for that fleeting glance to see that it's a 3, not a 5.




Me, I'm a fan of that 5 series...

Crusoe

4,068 posts

231 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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james_tigerwoods said:
What is a "High beam assitant" anyway - is that in case you don't know when you're dazzling other cars?
Yes, it auto dips out of main beam if it "sees" another set of headlights coming towards you. Quite slick unless there is a very bright full moon though it does help keep hands on the wheel and stops those people who often forget to dip their lights dazzling you.

soad

32,891 posts

176 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Crusoe said:
Yes, it auto dips out of main beam if it "sees" another set of headlights coming towards you. Quite slick unless there is a very bright full moon though it does help keep hands on the wheel and stops those people who often forget to dip their lights dazzling you.
Sounds like quite a clever idea. They always innovate, it seems.

Beyond Rational

3,524 posts

215 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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I really don't like the truncated nose where it ends abruptly just after the number plate.

E21_Ross

35,068 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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james_tigerwoods said:
But the last models look better and different enough for that fleeting glance to see that it's a 3, not a 5.

Me, I'm a fan of that 5 series...
agree, i think that the 3 series saloon looks very dull. the only "3" i like is the M3 which looks much more aggressive. i think the E46 3 series was a much better looking car. but i also think that with the E39 5 series.

Black S2K

1,471 posts

249 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Too damn poor to specify Indicator Assist then?

Is that £2,200 Dynamic Duo the version with 4WS & anti-roll? BMW's catchy titles all sound the same to me.

E21_Ross

35,068 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Black S2K said:
Too damn poor to specify Indicator Assist then?

Is that £2,200 Dynamic Duo the version with 4WS & anti-roll? BMW's catchy titles all sound the same to me.
you'll find the cars come with indicators which work very well. it's just a lot of people don't use them for some reason. i think it's an age old saying about BMW, i think the majority of drivers these days are just as bad. BMW must have set a trend hehe

that said, was behind some biddy in a 318i new shape who was slowing down for seemingly no reason, then turned right. i was like...would have been nice if you indicated!! most bmw drivers i know use indicators (admittedly that's only about 3 people hehe )

thehardman07

147 posts

181 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Beyond Rational said:
I really don't like the truncated nose where it ends abruptly just after the number plate.
+1. I couldn't work out why the front wasn't quite working for me. But you've hit the nail on the head there.

MrTappets

881 posts

191 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Everyone said great things about the jag xf when it came out a couple of years ago, but it was competing against the old 5 and E-class. Now there are new ones out I read that it's not quite top any more.

Does anyone know when Jag are freshening it up? Presumably they'll switch back to aluminium for the next one, but not for a few years?

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

209 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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I have to say the 535iSE I drove a while back was thoroughly excellent.

Interestingly though, it had a toy that you don't mention in this article - little video cameras on the front corners pointing sideways to help you get out of junctions, that come up on the TV screen in the dash. Genius (or perhaps I'm just easily pleased).

jas16

378 posts

232 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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£52k seems like a lot of money,

and some of the extras look as if they are there for USP purposes rather than necessity

personally, i am a firm believer in that "manual" driving is more enjoyable than having everything automated,

E21_Ross

35,068 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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jas16 said:
as if they are there for USP purposes rather than necessity

personally, i am a firm believer in that "manual" driving is more enjoyable than having everything automated,
agree, but a lot of people just want to waft along, relaxed, without having to do very much. i guess all that stuff is aimed at them, not us.

agree, £52k is a lot of money but it's no more than the competitors with a fully spec car.

Edited by E21_Ross on Thursday 15th April 14:40

Remagel2507

1,456 posts

192 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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I quite like this new 5 Series - Looked around a 523i last week when in the BMW dealership and the interior looks and feels just as it should. M Sport one should look even better IMO.

Havnt had a proper look around a new E-Class yet so dont know which is better

st_files

5,426 posts

181 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Say what you like about Bangle's previous design but at least it gave the car an identity...this is so bland...looks like one of the factory production line robots was asked to design this one....totally underwhelming.

SleeperCell

5,591 posts

242 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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james_tigerwoods said:
Looks like a great big 3 series - not unlike the Pug 605 looked like a big 405 and I don't remember that being a good thing....
On the other hand Audi cars all look identical and most people seem to think that's a good thing. The Peugeot 405 & 605 example is certainly one of the more obscure choices you could have made and an odd one since frankly neither car suffered because of it's appearance, in fact perhaps the only redeeming feature of the 605 was it's understated good looks inherited from the 405, the rest of it was mediocre probably because Peugeot knew the French government would buy a load of them no matter how bad it was to avoid a non-patriotic choice of conveyance for public officials.

Likewise BMWs most revered models all look identical from the '60s era 2002, E3 and E9 to the '70s shark-mouth era E12, E21, E23 & E28, then the clean lined 80s era E30, E34, E32, to the 90s E46, E39 and E38. Each of these generations looked pretty much identical to others of the same generation. You never hear people complaining about that, but you do hear lots of people complaining that the so called 'Bangle' designs from the '00s are terrible and that's when they quite deliberately set out to make them all look different and not "the same sausage in different lengths" simply to appease critics such as yourself. They found out you and your type are wrong and are now fixing that mistake by making them all look the same again.

oh by the way, might want to choose something a little more imaginative than a diesel golf next time, they look identical to the new Polo, although perhaps I have now convinced you that it's a good thing ;-).




james_tigerwoods

16,287 posts

197 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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SleeperCell said:
james_tigerwoods said:
Looks like a great big 3 series - not unlike the Pug 605 looked like a big 405 and I don't remember that being a good thing....
On the other hand Audi cars all look identical and most people seem to think that's a good thing. The Peugeot 405 & 605 example is certainly one of the more obscure choices you could have made and an odd one since frankly neither car suffered because of it's appearance, in fact perhaps the only redeeming feature of the 605 was it's understated good looks inherited from the 405, the rest of it was mediocre probably because Peugeot knew the French government would buy a load of them no matter how bad it was to avoid a non-patriotic choice of conveyance for public officials.

Likewise BMWs most revered models all look identical from the '60s era 2002, E3 and E9 to the '70s shark-mouth era E12, E21, E23 & E28, then the clean lined 80s era E30, E34, E32, to the 90s E46, E39 and E38. Each of these generations looked pretty much identical to others of the same generation. You never hear people complaining about that, but you do hear lots of people complaining that the so called 'Bangle' designs from the '00s are terrible and that's when they quite deliberately set out to make them all look different and not "the same sausage in different lengths" simply to appease critics such as yourself. They found out you and your type are wrong and are now fixing that mistake by making them all look the same again.

oh by the way, might want to choose something a little more imaginative than a diesel golf next time, they look identical to the new Polo, although perhaps I have now convinced you that it's a good thing ;-).
Not the greatest choice, I admit, but the only one that sprung to mind...

The Golf was chosen as the only reasonable company car choices, at the time, were the A3 (too expensive for the spec I wanted), 1 series (too expensive and too small) and the Golf.... Now the list has other makes on it, much to my annoyance as I could have had an Octavia VRs....

Personally, I think it's the Polo that looks like the Golf smile

Luca Brasi

885 posts

174 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Fabulous car, as always.