Coffee. Grinder and Cafetiere or Pods in a machine
Discussion
I have a pod machine but have considered joining the cult of the aeropress.
For work days though, I have a bodum cafetiere travel mug.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BODUM-Travel-French-Coffe...
For work days though, I have a bodum cafetiere travel mug.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BODUM-Travel-French-Coffe...
RobbieTheTruth said:
The Sage grinder grinds fine enough, but give you inconsistent particles compared with other grinders. Basically means some particles too big, some too small so the flavour profile is all over the place - which can sometimes make for a delicious shot!
how is this ? On the one hand we have unobtanium grinders to ensue the " flavour profile is not all over the place" And on the other hand - its fine and funky if it is.
Does this mean us plebs with B2C Delonghi's are fine as we sometimes an sometimes make for a delicious shot ?
And what the F is a 'uniform flavour profile' ?
PushedDover said:
how is this ? On the one hand we have unobtanium grinders to ensue the " flavour profile is not all over the place" And on the other hand - its fine and funky if it is.
Does this mean us plebs with B2C Delonghi's are fine as we sometimes an sometimes make for a delicious shot ?
And what the F is a 'uniform flavour profile' ?
Speciality coffee has it's oiwn tasting notes. My current espresso suggests Marzipan and Black Cherry, and my shot can taste a little bit like a thick Dr Pepper (whilst completely still tasting like coffee)
With a Sage Grinder, you'd be unable to replicate that taste, but you could stumble across something different altogether and it could be quite enjoyable!
Put these beans into a Delonghi B2C, you'll taste office coffee - no more, no less. Nicer than Instant/Nespresso, and quicket and easier than manual.
Weird, this review slates the grinder while going all barista-nerd on technique and getting a terrible result. I just fiddled with the grind until it worked, don't weigh anything, and tamp it by feel, yet so far I've been able to get great results from the beans I've tried.
https://medium.com/@alesha/breville-barista-expres...
https://medium.com/@alesha/breville-barista-expres...
Bah humbug.
Tesco, five quid. And their own-brand coffee.
Cleaning it isn't that much of a faff, although the previous residents of every holiday accommodation I've ever stayed in obviously think differently, the manky b
ds.
Warning - do not remove the glass jug from the plastic holder by pushing on the base of the jug with your thumb.
Tesco, five quid. And their own-brand coffee.
Cleaning it isn't that much of a faff, although the previous residents of every holiday accommodation I've ever stayed in obviously think differently, the manky b
ds.Warning - do not remove the glass jug from the plastic holder by pushing on the base of the jug with your thumb.
otolith said:
Weird, this review slates the grinder while going all barista-nerd on technique and getting a terrible result. I just fiddled with the grind until it worked, don't weigh anything, and tamp it by feel, yet so far I've been able to get great results from the beans I've tried.
https://medium.com/@alesha/breville-barista-expres...
It's not a great grinder. It's the bare minimum entry level espresso grinder, and it will grind fine enough but uneven.https://medium.com/@alesha/breville-barista-expres...
It was my first grinder.
Sometimes you'll get a lovely shot out of it, but you'll struggle to find any of the tasting notes that you'd find in a better grinder.
RobbieTheTruth said:
PushedDover said:
how is this ? On the one hand we have unobtanium grinders to ensue the " flavour profile is not all over the place" And on the other hand - its fine and funky if it is.
Does this mean us plebs with B2C Delonghi's are fine as we sometimes an sometimes make for a delicious shot ?
And what the F is a 'uniform flavour profile' ?
Speciality coffee has it's oiwn tasting notes. My current espresso suggests Marzipan and Black Cherry, and my shot can taste a little bit like a thick Dr Pepper (whilst completely still tasting like coffee)
With a Sage Grinder, you'd be unable to replicate that taste, but you could stumble across something different altogether and it could be quite enjoyable!
Put these beans into a Delonghi B2C, you'll taste office coffee - no more, no less. Nicer than Instant/Nespresso, and quicket and easier than manual.
Good enough
Halmyre said:
Bah humbug.
Tesco, five quid. And their own-brand coffee.
Cleaning it isn't that much of a faff, although the previous residents of every holiday accommodation I've ever stayed in obviously think differently, the manky bds.
Warning - do not remove the glass jug from the plastic holder by pushing on the base of the jug with your thumb.
If you like it, then it works for you! If that's the end of your journey, then great!Tesco, five quid. And their own-brand coffee.
Cleaning it isn't that much of a faff, although the previous residents of every holiday accommodation I've ever stayed in obviously think differently, the manky b
ds.Warning - do not remove the glass jug from the plastic holder by pushing on the base of the jug with your thumb.
So you've tried it with Tesco own brand.
If you're interested, go to a nice coffee shop and get them to grind a bag of their lightly roasted specialty beans and it will taste completely different.
Then if you like that, try the same grind through a thick drip filter. You'll get a similar drink, but the filter will hold all the oily bitterness out of the drink, rather than letting all that stew in the cafetiere.
You may find you love that clarity, and you might be interested in how different this coffee tastes and look forward to trying different coffees with completely different flavour profiles.
Equally, you might think this tastes much to 'clean' and you might miss your dark, oily, strong traditional coffee taste and revert back!
RobbieTheTruth said:
It's not a great grinder. It's the bare minimum entry level espresso grinder, and it will grind fine enough but uneven.
It was my first grinder.
Sometimes you'll get a lovely shot out of it, but you'll struggle to find any of the tasting notes that you'd find in a better grinder.
That may well be the case, but what was interesting to me was that he went to all that trouble and his came out like this;It was my first grinder.
Sometimes you'll get a lovely shot out of it, but you'll struggle to find any of the tasting notes that you'd find in a better grinder.
Yet mine comes out like this;
PushedDover said:
how is this ? On the one hand we have unobtanium grinders to ensue the " flavour profile is not all over the place" And on the other hand - its fine and funky if it is.
Does this mean us plebs with B2C Delonghi's are fine as we sometimes an sometimes make for a delicious shot ?
And what the F is a 'uniform flavour profile' ?
I haven't got much money, so I haven't got top of the range equipment. I've gone with what I think to be the cheapest set up possible where I can really extract those tasting notes and make a cup of coffee that any coffee shop would be happy to serve.
Parello has a much better and more expensive set up than me, with his HG One grinder and a Londinium maachine.
Like I said, I'm brewing with a bean that has suggested tasting notes of black cherry and marzipan.I'm managing to pick up a slight Dr Pepper taste. It's likely he'd taste Morello Cherry jam spread on Battenburg using his set up!
His Grinder has larger, flatter burs than mine - so his grind is even more consistent and flat burs extract a clearer taste than conical burrs (which I have).
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otolith said:
That may well be the case, but what was interesting to me was that he went to all that trouble and his came out like this;
Yet mine comes out like this;
Are you referring to the Crema on top?Yet mine comes out like this;
People used to talk about Crema as a desirable part of the shot, and it certainly looks pretty, especially when it 'Tigers' and has little stripes running through.
It's really just an indication of bean age though. Something roasted a few days ago will have loads of crema, and as the beans age, it reduces.
It doesn't add anything to taste, in fact, it worsens it! Next time, just skim a tiny bit of that Crema with a teaspoon and taste it on it's own. It's very bitter compared to the black liquid underneath!
It’s an interesting thread on coffee, and has the full spectrum of opinion just as every other topic on here. I’ve never considered myself a coffee snob but I always go to a good Indy if I can and won’t drink any kind of ‘instant’, I don’t believe there is such a thing as instant coffee. I don’t look down on anyone who drinks it though, I just would rather go without. It’s no better than that nineties instant tea (QT?) that nobody touches anymore.
So anyway, how do we feel about storing coffee (beans and pre-ground) in the freezer?!
So anyway, how do we feel about storing coffee (beans and pre-ground) in the freezer?!
otolith said:
The guys at the place I used to buy my beans said they had one that tasted of tomato soup! I smiled, and thought to myself that I would stick to beans which taste of coffee 
I get that, but it depends on how you want that 'coffee' to taste.If you are used to instant, getting a latte from Starbucks/Costa/Nero could be a treat.
I was ok drinking from places like that, until I went to a specialty shop and tried their house blend.
For me, it was then understanding why their coffee didn't taste like the coffee in Starbucks/Costa/Nero. After a few years of buying equipment (Nespresso, B2B) and a lot of reading, I am able to replicate theirs.
Yes, it tastes like 'coffee' but it's worlds away from Starbucks.
RobbieTheTruth said:
Halmyre said:
Bah humbug.
Tesco, five quid. And their own-brand coffee.
Cleaning it isn't that much of a faff, although the previous residents of every holiday accommodation I've ever stayed in obviously think differently, the manky bds.
Warning - do not remove the glass jug from the plastic holder by pushing on the base of the jug with your thumb.
If you like it, then it works for you! If that's the end of your journey, then great!Tesco, five quid. And their own-brand coffee.
Cleaning it isn't that much of a faff, although the previous residents of every holiday accommodation I've ever stayed in obviously think differently, the manky b
ds.Warning - do not remove the glass jug from the plastic holder by pushing on the base of the jug with your thumb.
So you've tried it with Tesco own brand.
If you're interested, go to a nice coffee shop and get them to grind a bag of their lightly roasted specialty beans and it will taste completely different.
Then if you like that, try the same grind through a thick drip filter. You'll get a similar drink, but the filter will hold all the oily bitterness out of the drink, rather than letting all that stew in the cafetiere.
You may find you love that clarity, and you might be interested in how different this coffee tastes and look forward to trying different coffees with completely different flavour profiles.
Equally, you might think this tastes much to 'clean' and you might miss your dark, oily, strong traditional coffee taste and revert back!
I brew it as quickly as possible in the press so that it doesn't stew. Hot water, stir, four minutes, plunge, pour. If that gives you oily then I obviously like oily, but then I also prefer Islay malts.
MiseryStreak said:
It’s an interesting thread on coffee, and has the full spectrum of opinion just as every other topic on here. I’ve never considered myself a coffee snob but I always go to a good Indy if I can and won’t drink any kind of ‘instant’, I don’t believe there is such a thing as instant coffee. I don’t look down on anyone who drinks it though, I just would rather go without. It’s no better than that nineties instant tea (QT?) that nobody touches anymore.
So anyway, how do we feel about storing coffee (beans and pre-ground) in the freezer?!
Despite being seen as a total coffee snob on here, I'll expect and happily drink instant when visiting friends and family. It's a completely different expectation and taste, but it's perfectly palatable in its own right.So anyway, how do we feel about storing coffee (beans and pre-ground) in the freezer?!
Fresh coffee should be drunk immediately after grinding.
It should be ground 7-20 days after roasting really, and the beans should be stored airtight.
a 250g bag of beans should only really last a week so I've never bothered to store in the freezer.
RobbieTheTruth said:
I get that, but it depends on how you want that 'coffee' to taste.
If you are used to instant, getting a latte from Starbucks/Costa/Nero could be a treat.
I was ok drinking from places like that, until I went to a specialty shop and tried their house blend.
For me, it was then understanding why their coffee didn't taste like the coffee in Starbucks/Costa/Nero. After a few years of buying equipment (Nespresso, B2B) and a lot of reading, I am able to replicate theirs.
Yes, it tastes like 'coffee' but it's worlds away from Starbucks.
I'd agree with that, but I've been making better coffee at home than Starbucks sell for a long time - it's not a high bar!If you are used to instant, getting a latte from Starbucks/Costa/Nero could be a treat.
I was ok drinking from places like that, until I went to a specialty shop and tried their house blend.
For me, it was then understanding why their coffee didn't taste like the coffee in Starbucks/Costa/Nero. After a few years of buying equipment (Nespresso, B2B) and a lot of reading, I am able to replicate theirs.
Yes, it tastes like 'coffee' but it's worlds away from Starbucks.
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