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The Beaver King said:
On a scale of 1 - 10, 1 being whisper quiet and 10 being 'Holy crap, she's gonna blow!', how loud is the knocking?
I have a theory based on my own experience, but the knock would need to be pretty loud (7-10 range).
I'd say a 5 - 6 but do enlighten me on your theory it could be something I need to considerI have a theory based on my own experience, but the knock would need to be pretty loud (7-10 range).
HvdWeerden said:
Thanks Han most useful Latest update .... I have now discovered the source of the banging noise. After asking my lovely assistant to crank over the engine whilst laying under the car it was obvious straight away that the crank was catching the sump so whilst jacking the front of the engine up to get the gearbox back in I must have buckled/dented the sump
So next questions are ...
Is there anything I can do to the sump without removing it to try and straighten it?
Can the sump be easily removed without removing the engine from the car and any tips help would be much appreciated.
So next questions are ...
Is there anything I can do to the sump without removing it to try and straighten it?
Can the sump be easily removed without removing the engine from the car and any tips help would be much appreciated.
ChrisGadd said:
Is there anything I can do to the sump without removing it to try and straighten it?
weld a nut on to screw a slide hammer into?ChrisGadd said:
Can the sump be easily removed without removing the engine from the car and any tips help would be much appreciated.
It's engine out unless you have the removable cross member modification.Drain the oil and try to push it down with a rod in the sump plug hole?
I'm guessing there's not much access and it sounds unlikely to work but worth a try?
It might be worth enquiring at ford to see if the sump is still a stock item?
I recently bought a genuine sump from Subaru for my son's impreza and it was £100, you would hope a ford sump would be significantly less.
I'm guessing there's not much access and it sounds unlikely to work but worth a try?
It might be worth enquiring at ford to see if the sump is still a stock item?
I recently bought a genuine sump from Subaru for my son's impreza and it was £100, you would hope a ford sump would be significantly less.
Boosted LS1 said:
I think it'll be a rod catching at the shallow front part of the sump?
Certainly what I suspect as well having listened to the hollow sound and by placing my hand underneath. Also it only catches the sump in one place when rotating the engine. So I suppose I could work out roughly where the crank is catching?Edited by ChrisGadd on Monday 13th June 14:10
Edited by ChrisGadd on Monday 13th June 14:11
Phillpots idea of welding a nut on is actually well worth considering, it is an old technique that does work. Dont worry about doing it with the oil in either. It is far safer to weld a vessel with the fluid in than the fumes. The oil will help keep it cool and limit distortion. The oil wont burn, there is no oxygen at the bottom of the sump, I doubt you will even see any fumes rise. While a slide hammer would be nice I think I would just get a long bar/tube and put a hole in it, bolt through the hole to the nut then use the bar against some part of the chassis and lever it down. A bigger nut, to spread the load and heat, would be better than a small one.
Good luck
greymrj said:
Phillpots idea of welding a nut on is actually well worth considering, it is an old technique that does work. Dont worry about doing it with the oil in either. It is far safer to weld a vessel with the fluid in than the fumes. The oil will help keep it cool and limit distortion. The oil wont burn, there is no oxygen at the bottom of the sump, I doubt you will even see any fumes rise. While a slide hammer would be nice I think I would just get a long bar/tube and put a hole in it, bolt through the hole to the nut then use the bar against some part of the chassis and lever it down. A bigger nut, to spread the load and heat, would be better than a small one.
Good luck
absolutely this - largest nut possible and two good strong tack welds on opposite sidesGood luck
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