RE: PH Buying Guide: Jaguar XK8/XKR (X100)

RE: PH Buying Guide: Jaguar XK8/XKR (X100)

Thursday 28th February 2013

PH Buying Guide: Jaguar XK8/XKR (X100)

Jaguar's curvy XJS replacement is now available for reasonable money. Here's our guide to buying the big cat



Every new Jaguar sports car since the E-Type has borne a weight of expectation that it will be the one to recapture that elusive appeal of the 1960s original. The XJS didn’t manage it, but it did pave the way the way for the XK8 that treads a fine line between the sportiness of the E-Type and the grand tourer riff of the XJS.

Launched at the 1996 Geneva Motor Show, the X100 XK8 used a modified XJS platform as its base, but an all-new 4.0-litre V8 engine provided the power. The AJ-26 V8 gave 294hp and was only ever offered with a five-speed automatic gearbox.

A Convertible followed at the end of 1996, followed by the supercharged XKR with 375hp in 1998. The XKR arguably finally laid to rest the calls for a spiritual replacement for the E-Type.

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Pre-facelift car looked a touch less aggressive
Pre-facelift car looked a touch less aggressive
Some concerns arose, however, over the new V8’s reliability, mostly due to the Nikasil lining of the cylinder bores that was susceptible to wear from petrol with a high sulphur content. The Nikasil-lined engines were replaced in 2000 with steel-lined AJ26 motors that were unaffected by sulphur. Many earlier XKs had their engines replaced under warranty by Jaguar, so look for evidence of this in the history file or inside the engine bay where there should be an identifying plaque.

Any further worries about engine problems were dismissed in 2003 when Jag introduced the revised 305hp AJ-34 4.2-litre V8, again with steel-lined bores. A revised 4.2-litre supercharged engine, now with 406hp, arrived at the same time as the normally aspirated engine, and both got a new, six-speed automatic gearbox.

By the time Jaguar wound up production of the first generation X100 XK8 in 2005 to replace it with the X150, 91,406 worldwide were built. Several special edition models were produced, including the Silverstone in 2000, XKR 100 in 2001, Carbon Fibre in 2004, Portfolio for the US market, and to mark the end of X100 production there was the S model for Europe and Victory for the USA.

Now, you can pick up an X100 XK8 for less than £3000. At this price, it will be a reliability gamble, so better early cars are more likely cost from £5000 and convertibles generally command £1500-£2000 more. The XKR starts at £5000, while facelifted models from 2001-on are likely to begin at £8000 for the normally aspirated coupe and rise to a peak of £20,000 for a late XKR convertible.


PHer's view:
"I had an XK8 and then an XKR100. Both were beautiful, incredibly reliable (temp gauge seemed to be stuck in the dead centre of the gauge), if not the most involving of driver's cars. I loved the looks and the reliability, but I'm not a fan of the auto ’box and think the car would have been far better with a manual, even if that had only been a flappy paddle job. Straight-line speed of the R was immense, although it felt like a heavier beast through the twisty stuff. Servicing costs and depreciation were high for a car of this value. All in all, a good experience and I did go back for more!"
Gavin Moule


Buying guide contents:

Introduction
Powertrain
Rolling chassis
Body
Interior

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Discussion

V8 FOU

Original Poster:

2,977 posts

148 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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I drove an XKR a while ago, albeit an early one, and found it ponderous and uninvolving. Such a small cabin too. Some of those dashboards look like someone has sneezed over them...
I guess the '06 up models are somewhat different tho'

soad

32,915 posts

177 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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V8 FOU said:
I drove an XKR a while ago, albeit an early one, and found it ponderous and uninvolving.
It's more of a GT, instead of sports car...

tomoleeds

770 posts

187 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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I like te earl ones but they look old fashioned with the wood,and the leather seats crack badly.The dash is not great looking either.Later 2005 on models are better inside are on sale for around 15k last time i looked a couple of months ago.When they get to 10k i might be interested if its in next couple of years

Denorth

559 posts

172 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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can't get into any of sub articles - it's still Thursday, not Friday afternoon wink

mnkiboy

4,409 posts

167 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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Would love a convertible XK8 but just don't have the spare cash at the moment.

Huge outside, tiny inside, useless rear seats, potential engine and gearbox issues, habit of rusting through the floorpan, cruise control not standard, handling in no way sporty... and i'd still have one.

Scrof

197 posts

155 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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Denorth said:
can't get into any of sub articles - it's still Thursday, not Friday afternoon wink
Oops. Sorry! Now resolved!

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

246 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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LPG: Good.

Looks: yuck.

What a way to beat a beautiful car with an ugly stick.

J4CKO

41,660 posts

201 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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Nice enough but dont have any desire to get one, they have a strong whiff of Cravate wearing Golfers Gin Palace.

JREwing

17,540 posts

180 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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V800 said:


when they look this good and run on LPG its a daily drive poll bush suspension bearings and new shocks all round transforms the handling
Do you mean "when they look this good" or "when they look this terrible'?

NGK210

2,969 posts

146 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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The XK had cool front-end styling, with a minging, elongated and unbalanced rear. Allegedly, this whack from the ugly stick was a deliberate Ford dictat, designed to protect DB7 sales.

j_s14a

863 posts

179 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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Like all good Jags, these are getting better looking with age.

Except for that silver cabriolet monstrosity above, the bling wheels and bonnet vents look terrible.

To anyone interested in one of these, I'd highly recommend looking at a MKIV Toyota Supra, which is a nicer drive and available in manual form. The issue is finding an unmolested one, and rising above badge snobbery.

Luke.

11,003 posts

251 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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V800 said:
may go back to standard
I would. smile

laingy

676 posts

242 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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i remember driving an XK8, and the handling was terrible. The chap from the Jaguar garage commented that he though i may prefer a bmw as they handled better. one of the most disappointing cars I have driven (along with an XC90).

Gorbyrev

1,160 posts

155 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/j...

When the next generation XK is getting this cheap (£15K!) an XK8 might be a hard sell. Pretty car though.

Pip1968

1,348 posts

205 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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Surely if you can fit a manual box to an Aston Martin then you can do the same to a Jaguar? (I would put the link to that New Zealander/Australian (???) who wrote about his own Aston Martin not long).

I would love a Jaguar but not with a boring automatic or even paddle shift box.

Pip

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

164 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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Pip1968 said:
Surely if you can fit a manual box to an Aston Martin then you can do the same to a Jaguar? (I would put the link to that New Zealander/Australian (???) who wrote about his own Aston Martin not long).

I would love a Jaguar but not with a boring automatic or even paddle shift box.

Pip
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=27019

P700DEE

1,115 posts

231 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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Not the best buying guide which perhaps reflects in the somewhat negative comments in response. The X100 Jaguar is currently a performance bargain especially for the R. Does it handle like a sports car, no ! it is a GT. (edited as figures are correct as HP) They are heavy cars and eat bushes , get one with the suspension sorted wink Manual gearbox , no problem , NormanD will be along soon along with the after market option and of twin screw supercharger to boost power to 600 BHP. Specialist sites such as the xkec and a wealth of Jaguar specialists mean servicing and running is not ruinous. Buying guide; there are plenty available and with all cars much to look for. Nikasil issues are long gone with surviving cars likely to last longer than steel lined thanks to the lower friction and age hardening. Worth mentioning the biggest issues are often battery/power related. Ignore Jaguar's over optimistic servicing schedules and change the gearbox fluids.

Edited by P700DEE on Friday 1st March 16:25

Rotrax

51 posts

191 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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Iv'e now run XKR convertibles, both 4 litre and 4.2 as my daily driver and only car for 10 years, buying them at around 7 or 8 years old, at £16 - £17,000, running at around 20,000 miles a year.

The first one was retired at 160,000 miles, current one now up to 65,000. Depreciation from these purchase price levels is lower than a new Focus or Golf, and I know which I'd rather drive.

Reliable, fast beautiful and comfortable, I'm 6'2" and here's more than enough room for me. Yes it's a bit soft, but very easy to live with, and once you know the car and trust it, can be hustled around the twisty bits just as fast as I could my Chimeara, and far better than the Mercedes 320E W124 Coupes I used to run. Straight line acceleration, with 400bhp, and smooth auto is just so strong and will see off almost anything less than £50K plus. What's not to like?

I'll be looking for a new shape one later this year. Great BRITISH made cars.

Scrof

197 posts

155 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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P700DEE said:
Not a great buying guide which perhaps reflects in the somewhat negative comments in response. The X100 Jaguar is currently a performance bargain especially for the R. Does it handle like a sports car, no ! it is a GT. Not sure where the power figures come from as the generally quoted BHP (KW) are 290 XK8 at launch, 370 XKR rising to 300 and 400 respectively with the 4.2. They are heavy cars and eat bushes , get one with the suspension sorted wink Manual gearbox , no problem , NormanD will be along soon along with the option of twin screw supercharger to boost power to 600 BHP. Specialist sites such as the xkec and a wealth of Jaguar specialists mean servicing and running is not ruinous. Buying guide there are plenty available and with all cars much to look for. Nikasil issues are long gone with surviving cars likely to last longer than steel lined thanks to the lower friction and age hardening. Nice idea but 3 out of 10 for implementation.
I don't think that's an entirely fair assessment. To answer your points:

The power figures quoted are all in hp, not bhp, as they are across PistonHeads - so they are correct.

The suspension bush issues are discussed in the 'Rolling Chassis' section, as quoted here: "Jaguar made much of checking the front suspension beam with X-ray machines before it was fitted at the factory. However, this doesn’t mean you shouldn’t inspect it very closely for signs of worn bushes, especially the rear ones. If the car’s handling seems to float and doesn't give much confidence, this is a likely culprit" and, later, "An A-frame forms part of the rear suspension and its bushes wear, so listen for knocks and clonks".

Manual gearboxes and twin-screw superchargers are aftermarket modifications, which as a rule we don't touch on in buyers' guides unless they're frequent conversions.

Servicing and running costs do depend on your point of view; I myself ran an XJR with similar running costs a few years ago and found them to be pretty hefty, even through a specialist.

And as regards the Nikasil issues, if you visit the 'Powertrain' section you'll see that Alisdair makes the point that "any Nikasil engine that has lasted until now is unlikely to suffer any problems in this area as modern fuel has a much lower sulphur content."

jdw100

4,126 posts

165 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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I have to say I absolutely love mine.

2004 in Jaguar racing green with ivory interior.

Over 18 months it has cost me maybe £500 and some of that was having a remote hood opening module fitted.

No complaints at all!