RE: Chris Harris video: M135i vs A45 AMG

RE: Chris Harris video: M135i vs A45 AMG

Thursday 18th July 2013

Chris Harris video: M135i vs A45 AMG

That BMW meets much tougher competition from Merc's A45 AMG - can it still prevail?



Can the world handle another M135i story? Judging by the multiple pages generated by PH doing nothing more than outlining the specification of the new fleet example, the answer is yes.

On the 4 Series launch earlier this week I met both the man responsible for the M135i powertrain, and the chassis - two rather talented individuals I hope you'll agree. They both talked of the car with real passion and the chassis man let slip that BMW is considering a mechanical locking differential for the car - it would be the first option I'd tick.

A45 can't do this - but does that really matter?
A45 can't do this - but does that really matter?
I really would like to drive a very basic specification M135i. I'm pretty sure that all I would have now is the gearbox, some heated seats, the adaptive dampers and a method of connecting my iPod and phone to the car. The rest I'd leave.

The A45 AMG is better specified - I've already written something about the car but the video gives you the chance to hear those pops 'n bangs.

One thing that shines through in this test is just how perfect rear-wheel drive is for the internet video generation. Ignoring the pros and cons of rear drive in the UK, you just can't argue with how much more exciting it makes cars appear on video and in magazines. I wonder how much this influences BMW's decision to remain RWD? I wonder how many cars are sold on the back of an oversteer photograph or video clip?

On the road the A45 is a very exciting car, but because it doesn't move around as much, won't lay down black lines and make people like me whoop on a track it comes across as being a little sterile. That simply isn't the case.

The German ultra-hatch is a fast emerging genre. It's a recipe that works especially well on UK roads.

Why no RS3? It would have been slaughtered.

Enjoy the vid.

 

 

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bingles

Original Poster:

29 posts

132 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Why no 2013 S3?

inman999

25,380 posts

173 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Because its in no way a competitor to either of these cars.

Itsallicanafford

2,771 posts

159 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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...goodness me these are two butt ugly cars...aesthetically, is this really the best they could come up with?

David87

6,658 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Chris, how would something like the Focus RS MP350 compare to these? Is it left behind nowadays or would it still keep up? Not watched the video yet, but look forward to it every week!

Lowtimer

4,286 posts

168 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Heated seats? Degeneracy, I call it...

zeduffman

4,055 posts

151 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Itsallicanafford said:
...goodness me these are two butt ugly cars...aesthetically, is this really the best they could come up with?
Fingers crossed BMW doesn't screw up the M235i. I bet the price suffers though.

wolfy1988

1,426 posts

163 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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I'm beginning to think the A45 AMG, is in fact the perfect car for me!

loomx

327 posts

225 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Bloody love my M135i!
I don't have adaptive dampers on mine, and I don't feel like I am missing out. But that 8 speed, I don't think I could do without that, absolutely love it!
One thing I only recently discovered, is in full manual mode, if you stamp kick down and pull the downshift, it jumps into the lowest gear possible. Its so much fun watching it drop from 8th to 2nd in a split second and then squirm away! The engine and gearbox together really are an event.

I also love the steering on it, initially it did feel a bit odd being so quick, but you get used to it so quickly, and then it just feels so fast and accurate.

Would love to have a go in the A45 to feel the difference between the two.

jamesghwilson

67 posts

149 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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bingles said:
Why no 2013 S3?
Seconded, I would have said the A45 AMG's closest rival would be the RS3. But great vid and I love the Merc (despite the price).

virgilio

424 posts

145 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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great video as usual (except for those trousers! they make clarkson look stylish...)!

Very surprised about how good and fast the merc seems to be! Perhaps after too many years of trying to appeal to rappers styling-wise and to drifters handling-wise, mercedes are back to solid and expensive efficiency, like in the good old times?

The BMW's engine still wins it for me though, but the vid leaves me wishing for a blasphemy: M135 x-drive...

lozzzzzz

339 posts

157 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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You do some cracking vids Chris, I can't afford either, but I love watching, you really break them down for Joe public. Well done that man!

golfer99

387 posts

178 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Love my M135I with Adaptive and the Auto Box .. Great car

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Cracking video as usual!

I'm sure as a drivers car the BMW takes it but I'm sorry - that is one fugly, fugly car, it could drive like it was on rails, go like stink and run on water but I'd never buy a car that (IMO) looks as bad as that. Out of the two I'd take the Merc, it would do every thing I needed and give most of the driving thrills I'd need without going on a track - it looks far better too IMO, it's a car I'd spend my own money on if I were in the market for such a beast.

lauda

3,479 posts

207 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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jamesghwilson said:
Seconded, I would have said the A45 AMG's closest rival would be the RS3. But great vid and I love the Merc (despite the price).
I think Chris mentioned on Twitter that the RS3 wouldn't have stood a chance (based on a previous test against thw BMW) and therefore they hadn't bothered getting one for this test.

cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Another astute, informative and enjoyable presentation from the chap who's clothing suggests his luggage is still in transit.


irish boy

3,535 posts

236 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Excellent review. 2 fantastic machines we should all be glad they decided to build.

GG89

3,527 posts

186 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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I can see myself in one of those A45s in a few years time!

What a little weapon!

UrbanSports

11,321 posts

203 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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18 minutes & 30 seconds says it all for me, BMW every time.

caymanbill

378 posts

135 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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The M135 is such a cool car.

In 3 door form it looks great, especially when compared to it's contemporaries. I suspect alot of the people that do think this car is ugly are just a bit slow off the mark and will warm to it ove time. Or perhaps they just buy furniture and union jack cushions from Next, food from ASDA and drive a golf or a megane. i.e have no discernible taste.

LancerG

2,870 posts

275 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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So Chris completely agrees with me then biggrin

AMG all the way for me, just far more personality and doesn't look the same as the 116d !

I just cant find a BMW that i love

I cant wait until they are 3 years old and £20k! I'll have one for the weekend. Until then i'll stick with my cheaper, faster Mitsi EVO