Thoughts on this T350T
Discussion
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
Pro;
- Squeeky clean service history
- Nice colour & reasonable interior
- Engine rebuild (although not TVR Power one, but likely a goody)
- Lots of power
- Hydratrack? Was this an option from new, and if so, how much was it?
Con;
- Expensive for a T350. Is it worth it?
Not sure;
- Are these really "light weight"? "Vinyl ester bodied"? What does this mean?
Thoughts, comments, etc.?
Oh, and does anyone have any pictures of the interior of the roof of a T350T? How are the panels held on? And what do you do with them when you remove them? Do you get a bag to keep them in the boot?
Pro;
- Squeeky clean service history
- Nice colour & reasonable interior
- Engine rebuild (although not TVR Power one, but likely a goody)
- Lots of power
- Hydratrack? Was this an option from new, and if so, how much was it?
Con;
- Expensive for a T350. Is it worth it?
Not sure;
- Are these really "light weight"? "Vinyl ester bodied"? What does this mean?
Thoughts, comments, etc.?
Oh, and does anyone have any pictures of the interior of the roof of a T350T? How are the panels held on? And what do you do with them when you remove them? Do you get a bag to keep them in the boot?
The car is at str8 six so the ad will be factually accurate. So given that, no, that's not hyperbole - the car MAY be unique (others with correct me if there were any other lightweight RR T350Ts). Vinylester was an alternative for the body construction and probably about half a dozen cars were constructed like that.
Is it "worth it"? Well, each will ascribe their own value. But I can almost guarantee that at that price, it will find demand.
The Targa panels are stored in bags and then lie at the bottom of the boot.
It sounds as if you may be new to T350s. I'd suggest that you're looking at the rarest of the rare there and that you could get a more "common" (haha - there are only 65 or so and I know mine's not for sale...) T350T for a little over 50% of this price (buying privately).
Is it "worth it"? Well, each will ascribe their own value. But I can almost guarantee that at that price, it will find demand.
The Targa panels are stored in bags and then lie at the bottom of the boot.
It sounds as if you may be new to T350s. I'd suggest that you're looking at the rarest of the rare there and that you could get a more "common" (haha - there are only 65 or so and I know mine's not for sale...) T350T for a little over 50% of this price (buying privately).
Hugh, Mines at S & Design at the moment else I'd let you have a look over and see what they're like inside for the roof. As mentioned previously, there are only about 60 odd Targas on the road so they are very rare anyway, whether the vinylester body makes it any better than a standard one is a call only you can make.
It is absolutely top money but I won't complain if it pushes other values up
A decent T with a 4.3 rebuild would be around the 30k mark so an extra 10k for the other stuff that is to me more a talking point rather than something you'll feel the benefit of - again, it's down to what you see it to be worth.
Str8Six do sell very good cars though and this one is likely to be one of the best out there.
It is absolutely top money but I won't complain if it pushes other values up
A decent T with a 4.3 rebuild would be around the 30k mark so an extra 10k for the other stuff that is to me more a talking point rather than something you'll feel the benefit of - again, it's down to what you see it to be worth.
Str8Six do sell very good cars though and this one is likely to be one of the best out there.
would be interessted in a dyno sheet as claims are high....
not my color but if time is no issue buy one cheap and mod as you like.
there are plenty of options to spent the 17k difference when buying a regular one. for me the 40k car is to standard to invest that sum. spent 3k more and you have the sag......
not my color but if time is no issue buy one cheap and mod as you like.
there are plenty of options to spent the 17k difference when buying a regular one. for me the 40k car is to standard to invest that sum. spent 3k more and you have the sag......
jrb43 said:
It sounds as if you may be new to T350s.
Well, newish. I've sat in a couple (belonging to fellow Speed Championship competitors), although I've never driven one.jrb43 said:
I'd suggest that you're looking at the rarest of the rare there and that you could get a more "common" (haha - there are only 65 or so and I know mine's not for sale...) T350T for a little over 50% of this price (buying privately).
There's a private one on PH presently with a Power 4.3 rebuild (I'm not even going to consider standard (i.e. unrebuilt) engined ones) for £28K, which is nearer 75%! Looking through the ones for sale, I would say ~50% is a little optimistic!This is a retirement present to myself - I have the budget. I was going to buy a 911, but decent ones are stupid money now, so I'm thinking about a T350 (I have a Chimaera at the moment). Oh, well, I've only just started looking and there's no rush!
Edited by Zumbruk on Wednesday 15th April 15:23
The specification is very good. If you think your going to get anything like this for 30k you need to reevaluate your budget. I'm sorry Tony but 30k for a decent T350T with a 4.3...your having a laugh. T350T's are rarer than a Sag, have similar performance and in this case higher performance and significant upgrades, with the most significant being a blueprinted 4.3 engine by Str8Six. This as with the Red T350c with the 4.5 are well worth the money. So let's not talk down the T350's, let's talk them up like the Sagaris owners 
You will be lucky to find a 4.3 Sag with these upgrades for 43k or a standard T350T for just over 20k.
You will be lucky to find a 4.3 Sag with these upgrades for 43k or a standard T350T for just over 20k.
Edited by ShiDevil on Wednesday 15th April 18:58
Zumbruk said:
There's a private one on PH presently with a Power 4.3 rebuild (I'm not even going to consider standard (i.e. unrebuilt) engined ones) for £28K, which is nearer 75%! Looking through the ones for sale, I would say ~50% is a little optimistic!
Apologies - I was thinking about 3.6. I haven't looked at the market for a while but my impression was that a 4.3 rebuild retains most of it's value. Great for those that have had them done but the other side of the coin would be that you shouldn't shy from a 3.6 because if you really want a 4.3, you could have it done yourself for very little more. FYI, a 3.6 is more than a match for a 997.... Zumbruk said:
This is a retirement present to myself - I have the budget. I was going to buy a 911, but decent ones are stupid money now, so I'm thinking about a T350 (I have a Chimaera at the moment). Oh, well, I've only just started looking and there's no rush!
Fab. Enjoy browsing the ads! Edited by Zumbruk on Wednesday 15th April 15:23
I think that, if those power figures are true, then £40k for that T350 is a (relative)steal.
How much would a standard lightweight T350T cost, £25-28k?
Str8 Six 4.3 rebuilds are around £12k, and that's not including the upgrades to the cooling system and other sympathetic mods. (clutch, slave cylinder, flywheel, suspension etc.). It has also been re-trimmed, hasn't it, so that would be an extra £4-8k on top.
I know that I have spent over £36k on my Tamora, and the purchase price was only £16k, so I would imagine the money spent on that car to get it where it is now would be nearer £50k.
If you wanted a car that already has all of the upgrades and the peace of mind that goes with it, rather than buying cheaper and then upgrading, it's perfect, I think.
How much would a standard lightweight T350T cost, £25-28k?
Str8 Six 4.3 rebuilds are around £12k, and that's not including the upgrades to the cooling system and other sympathetic mods. (clutch, slave cylinder, flywheel, suspension etc.). It has also been re-trimmed, hasn't it, so that would be an extra £4-8k on top.
I know that I have spent over £36k on my Tamora, and the purchase price was only £16k, so I would imagine the money spent on that car to get it where it is now would be nearer £50k.
If you wanted a car that already has all of the upgrades and the peace of mind that goes with it, rather than buying cheaper and then upgrading, it's perfect, I think.
One thing I discovered when looking for my first TVR is that you can’t narrow your search too much. I knew I wanted a T350T and I had some pre conceived idea’s on exterior and interior colour combinations and upgrades etc etc. However, with only 60 odd T350T’s registered on the road in the uk you could find yourself searching indefinitely! Also as these were all done to order there is a big variation on colours and interiors, no ‘run of the mill’ specification when it comes to these cars.
It is this rarity that makes them hard to price on the whole, as many have said it is worth what someone is prepared to pay. If someone is looking for a T350T with an impressive list of extra upgrades and the peace of mind that it will be prepped and warrantied by one of the best reputation specialists out there, then it would very much be worth it. If someone didn’t want all the extra’s and wanted to their own choice of upgrades then it clearly wouldn’t. One thing is for sure this car is pretty exceptional, and it is very very rare, if not unique, combination for T350T, RR and lightweight with great upgrades.
I purchased mine from Str8six a couple of weeks ago and couldn’t recommend them enough, it was a pleasure to deal with Chas and Jason and I felt confident in their approach and also that they had a good reputation. Don’t forget all Str8six TVR’s come with a 12,000 mile service, 12 month warranty including all parts and labour, 12 month tax, 12 months MOT and Accumate trickle charger and Anderson jump leads. So that’s added value over a private sale (all approx.):
12k Service - £800
Full Warranty - £1000
Tax - £240
Charger and cabling into footwell -£100
Anderson Jump Leads - £50
12 month peace of mind motoring - £Priceless…….. (well as worry free as tvr’s can be!)
Total £2190 + £priceless
They also sort absolutely everything on the car and the cars are prepped to the highest standards before collection. I also appreciated the fact that Chas took a good deal of time answering all my novice queries and gave me a thorough tour around the car even getting me to take off the oil tank cap etc (I am still learning the quirks of TVR ownership….)!
I ended up getting a different colour and interior than I was looking for but I love the look of it. Also don't discount on colours and interiors as often seeing them in the flesh can sometimes be a surprise!
It is this rarity that makes them hard to price on the whole, as many have said it is worth what someone is prepared to pay. If someone is looking for a T350T with an impressive list of extra upgrades and the peace of mind that it will be prepped and warrantied by one of the best reputation specialists out there, then it would very much be worth it. If someone didn’t want all the extra’s and wanted to their own choice of upgrades then it clearly wouldn’t. One thing is for sure this car is pretty exceptional, and it is very very rare, if not unique, combination for T350T, RR and lightweight with great upgrades.
I purchased mine from Str8six a couple of weeks ago and couldn’t recommend them enough, it was a pleasure to deal with Chas and Jason and I felt confident in their approach and also that they had a good reputation. Don’t forget all Str8six TVR’s come with a 12,000 mile service, 12 month warranty including all parts and labour, 12 month tax, 12 months MOT and Accumate trickle charger and Anderson jump leads. So that’s added value over a private sale (all approx.):
12k Service - £800
Full Warranty - £1000
Tax - £240
Charger and cabling into footwell -£100
Anderson Jump Leads - £50
12 month peace of mind motoring - £Priceless…….. (well as worry free as tvr’s can be!)
Total £2190 + £priceless
They also sort absolutely everything on the car and the cars are prepped to the highest standards before collection. I also appreciated the fact that Chas took a good deal of time answering all my novice queries and gave me a thorough tour around the car even getting me to take off the oil tank cap etc (I am still learning the quirks of TVR ownership….)!
I ended up getting a different colour and interior than I was looking for but I love the look of it. Also don't discount on colours and interiors as often seeing them in the flesh can sometimes be a surprise!
tvrtuscans said:
It's going to be an exceptional motor......very rare...a blue chip TVR investment in my book. Go see it. Vynalester saves about 50kg in weight I believe over the standard body.
Agreed, should be an exceptional car.Standard RR had a 3.6 blueprinted engine, now it's a 4.3. Be interesting to see what the final drive ratio is and how well the 4.3 works with the CR box and diff combination.
Vynalester relieved many "punters" of serious cash when the cars were new and that's why they are so rare. Be very surprised if the weight difference exists at all - a great example of TVR snake oil.
Well, went to see it yesterday. First off, many brownie points to Str8Six for staying open on Saturday afternoon so we could go and look at it.
It's gorgeous. Better than when it left the factory. Much better. And it hasn't even been PDI'd yet. Looking at the other T350s on PH, it isn't actually a bad price, since it's a one owner, low mileage car that's been looked after extremely well without regard to cost. And that 4.3 litre engine is a peach. Pottering through the village at 30mph in 4th, then storming down the motorway at 110mph, equally happy. And the noise! Glorious. I have no idea if the power figure is genuine, since I never got anywhere near the edges of the envelope, but I wouldn't be surprised - it picks up its skirts at 100mph in 5th with no effort at all.
So, did I buy it? Well, no. The wind noise from the targa top would drive me crazy. If it had been a coupe, then I would have. Someone who wants a superb T350T and is happy with the consequences of that decision is going to get a *really* nice car. If only it had been a coupe. Oh, well, the search goes on.
Anyone wanna buy a Chimaera 450?
It's gorgeous. Better than when it left the factory. Much better. And it hasn't even been PDI'd yet. Looking at the other T350s on PH, it isn't actually a bad price, since it's a one owner, low mileage car that's been looked after extremely well without regard to cost. And that 4.3 litre engine is a peach. Pottering through the village at 30mph in 4th, then storming down the motorway at 110mph, equally happy. And the noise! Glorious. I have no idea if the power figure is genuine, since I never got anywhere near the edges of the envelope, but I wouldn't be surprised - it picks up its skirts at 100mph in 5th with no effort at all.
So, did I buy it? Well, no. The wind noise from the targa top would drive me crazy. If it had been a coupe, then I would have. Someone who wants a superb T350T and is happy with the consequences of that decision is going to get a *really* nice car. If only it had been a coupe. Oh, well, the search goes on.
Anyone wanna buy a Chimaera 450?
Zumbruk said:
Well, went to see it yesterday. First off, many brownie points to Str8Six for staying open on Saturday afternoon so we could go and look at it.
It's gorgeous. Better than when it left the factory. Much better. And it hasn't even been PDI'd yet. Looking at the other T350s on PH, it isn't actually a bad price, since it's a one owner, low mileage car that's been looked after extremely well without regard to cost. And that 4.3 litre engine is a peach. Pottering through the village at 30mph in 4th, then storming down the motorway at 110mph, equally happy. And the noise! Glorious. I have no idea if the power figure is genuine, since I never got anywhere near the edges of the envelope, but I wouldn't be surprised - it picks up its skirts at 100mph in 5th with no effort at all.
So, did I buy it? Well, no. The wind noise from the targa top would drive me crazy. If it had been a coupe, then I would have. Someone who wants a superb T350T and is happy with the consequences of that decision is going to get a *really* nice car. If only it had been a coupe. Oh, well, the search goes on.
Anyone wanna buy a Chimaera 450?
Just adjust the panels or get Str8Six to add additional foam which many of us have and job done. The panels probably weren't put in properly at the right position. The exhaust obviously isn't loud enough either It's gorgeous. Better than when it left the factory. Much better. And it hasn't even been PDI'd yet. Looking at the other T350s on PH, it isn't actually a bad price, since it's a one owner, low mileage car that's been looked after extremely well without regard to cost. And that 4.3 litre engine is a peach. Pottering through the village at 30mph in 4th, then storming down the motorway at 110mph, equally happy. And the noise! Glorious. I have no idea if the power figure is genuine, since I never got anywhere near the edges of the envelope, but I wouldn't be surprised - it picks up its skirts at 100mph in 5th with no effort at all.
So, did I buy it? Well, no. The wind noise from the targa top would drive me crazy. If it had been a coupe, then I would have. Someone who wants a superb T350T and is happy with the consequences of that decision is going to get a *really* nice car. If only it had been a coupe. Oh, well, the search goes on.
Anyone wanna buy a Chimaera 450?
Zumbruk said:
Well, went to see it yesterday. First off, many brownie points to Str8Six for staying open on Saturday afternoon so we could go and look at it.
It's gorgeous. Better than when it left the factory. Much better. And it hasn't even been PDI'd yet. Looking at the other T350s on PH, it isn't actually a bad price, since it's a one owner, low mileage car that's been looked after extremely well without regard to cost. And that 4.3 litre engine is a peach. Pottering through the village at 30mph in 4th, then storming down the private road at 110mph, equally happy. And the noise! Glorious. I have no idea if the power figure is genuine, since I never got anywhere near the edges of the envelope, but I wouldn't be surprised - it picks up its skirts at 100mph on the private road in 5th with no effort at all.
So, did I buy it? Well, no. The wind noise from the targa top would drive me crazy. If it had been a coupe, then I would have. Someone who wants a superb T350T and is happy with the consequences of that decision is going to get a *really* nice car. If only it had been a coupe. Oh, well, the search goes on.
Anyone wanna buy a Chimaera 450?
Fixed that for you mateIt's gorgeous. Better than when it left the factory. Much better. And it hasn't even been PDI'd yet. Looking at the other T350s on PH, it isn't actually a bad price, since it's a one owner, low mileage car that's been looked after extremely well without regard to cost. And that 4.3 litre engine is a peach. Pottering through the village at 30mph in 4th, then storming down the private road at 110mph, equally happy. And the noise! Glorious. I have no idea if the power figure is genuine, since I never got anywhere near the edges of the envelope, but I wouldn't be surprised - it picks up its skirts at 100mph on the private road in 5th with no effort at all.
So, did I buy it? Well, no. The wind noise from the targa top would drive me crazy. If it had been a coupe, then I would have. Someone who wants a superb T350T and is happy with the consequences of that decision is going to get a *really* nice car. If only it had been a coupe. Oh, well, the search goes on.
Anyone wanna buy a Chimaera 450?
ShiDevil said:
Just adjust the panels or get Str8Six to add additional foam which many of us have and job done.
When I enquired if there was anything that could be done about the noise, I was told no. It'snot only the air leaks, which could likely be fixed, but the noise from the air rushing over the panels outside, which obviously cannot be changed. All things considered, I'd rather go without the targa top.
ShiDevil said:
The exhaust obviously isn't loud enough either
TBH, this desire among some TVR owners for more noise mystifies me. I think they're quite loud enough already (and a number of race tracks agree with me), even too loud in some cases. Yes, the noise is amusing for a few minutes, but it gets old (and boring and irritating) *really* quickly, especially on the motorway.Gassing Station | Tamora, T350 & Sagaris | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff