outraged Briton

[Zod]

I think uli sees (great pun by the way - pure genius) may be the latest Labour drone posting on here as part of his job. His/her posts appear to be almost entirely anti-Tory/pro-Labour drivel.

Can we make him feel as unloved as racingdude0099999?

[esselte]

Zod said:

I think uli sees (great pun by the way - pure genius) may be the latest Labour drone posting on here as part of his job. His/her posts appear to be almost entirely anti-Tory/pro-Labour drivel.

Can we make him feel as unloved as racingdude0099999?

Just ignore him?

[Zod]

It's more fun to poke the rabid monkey with a sharp stick.

[Sisyphus]

Eric Mc said:

Don't get confused between breaking the law and behaving badly.

The vast bulk of them broke no laws.

The vast bulk of them did behave dishonourably.

From those cases that were reported the vast majority cheated the taxpayer one way or another, legally or not.

We all know we were stiffed and, unusually for me, I'm enjoying the schadenfreude.

[esselte]

Zod said:

It's more fun to poke the rabid monkey with a sharp stick.

Hmmm,now you mention it...

[Oakey]

uli sees said:

It makes me want to vomit when I hear people jump on the moral bandwagon against MP's expenses.... as if everybody else is whiter than white, yeah of course everybody else is. fking hypocrits who just want to have a go at MP's is what I see

The day that ACME Ltd allow you to claim for a fking moat or duck house, you let us know, okay?

Btw, RacingDude009, is that you?

[JMGS4]

uli sees said:

A question

The difference is work expenses are checked and only allowable according to company, legal and tax allowances. Cheat on those and you'll be out of a job and possible criminal proceedings as well.

The cheating thieving politician scum (especially arrogant supercilious champagne Labour twunts) who steal our money should all be put up against the wall and shot.
NOTE: it's OUR money they're stealing...and the cheating barstewards make up the rules themselves...and STILL got caught!!! How feckin arrogant can you get?

[Bullett]

Some of my mileage claims might be based on route A rather than the shorter route B but thats about it.

The problem was that it was self policed. Up to £250 without a receipt? I would be laughed out of the accounts department. If I lose a bill I can't claim it. I will claim for what I am entitled to accomodation, food and drink and even entertainment. I was away for 3 weeks on site in Singapore claimed for all food and drink and some entertainment. The Co can pay my food when I'm not working (on the rare day off) as if I was at home I could have eaten for pennies rather than £20 a time.

The only reason more MP's are not having police look into it is that they made their own rules up. And probably the most infuriating thing (we all make mistakes) is that when caught they didn't say sorry and stand down immediately but they hid behind the "we were within the rules".

Pathetic, cheating, scum.

[KaraK]

Personally I only claim what I spend in the course of getting my job done. There is probably more I *could* claim but I would feel dishonest for doing do.

I think part of the outrage the public felt for this was that we were paying for it - when someone working in the private sector claims expenses they are generally funded by money the company makes - usually as a result of the employee's work. The "work" MPs however doesn't raise the cash to pay for them, that's what taxes do, in business if I think a company is overcharging me in order to fund excessive expenses/bonuses etc then I will probably stop using them, I can't do that in the same way with government. Now I have no real objection to someone earning a fair wage but there is a reason why they are called "Public servants" - they aren't supposed to be "in it for the money"

[Digga]

The unapologetic scumbags who claim benefits whilst taking cash backhanders for odd jobs are, in someways, less morally abhorent than the politicians - who by career seek to put themselves 'above' the rest of the public whilst technically being in service to them - who knowingly played the system for their own gains.

[groucho]

uli sees said:

A question for anybody who feels like answering...

I would like to ask anybody on here who got all outraged about MP's expenses, do you claim for everything you can on your own work expenses? If you do... why is it ok for you to and not ok for an MP to?

Never had any expenses or paid holiday or....etc. Nothing.

Does that answer your question?

[baz1985]

I really don't give a 5h!t about the MPs' expenses in the grand scheme of things it is loose change in terms of public spending......I think there should be a competition for the more comical, novel and innovative claims...they should receive double value lol!

[Marquis_Rex]

Zod said:

I think uli sees (great pun by the way - pure genius) may be the latest Labour drone posting on here as part of his job. His/her posts appear to be almost entirely anti-Tory/pro-Labour drivel.

Can we make him feel as unloved as racingdude0099999?

(who's this racingdude0099999 BTW?)

Uli Sees posts do seem that way-bloody irritating too.
But all he's succeeding in doing is uniting everyone against him and Labour/Winky Mcfknut more so, so it makes me wonder can our government be that thick?
On the other hand.....don't answer that....

[Marquis_Rex]

uli sees said:

It makes me want to vomit when I hear people jump on the moral bandwagon against MP's expenses.... as if everybody else is whiter than white, yeah of course everybody else is. fking hypocrits who just want to have a go at MP's is what I see

The difference is, the Government effectively should be working for us(we the people) with our best interests at heart. You have the cheek to compare a legtimately run business that are trying to survive -and claiming expenses there- with the Governemnt-which has become like a totalitarean mafia in the UK. If the Government was run like a business- with all it's inefficiencies and the clowns who work within- it would have folded years ago.

[jmorgan]

I would like to know at what point would they think they are extracting the urine with my money and start to reign it in?

Kids let lose on the sweet shop.

[T89 Callan]

esselte said:

Eric Mc said:

T89 Callan said:

I used to claim for what all I was entitiled to. These were costs from me doing my job.

The differences are as follows:

I didn't regulate my own expenses - like MP's regulate themselves.

I didn't cheat on my tax returns - like MP's avoiding capital gains.

I was paid by a company that had all the info of what I was claiming and would repremand me if I was taking the piss - MP's kept there claims secret from the people paying them (us) so they could shaft us.

My claims were for money I spent to do my job - An MP who lives 30 miles from Westminster does not need another house to do their job.

There you go.

From what I can see, very few of them "cheated" on the Capital Gains side of things. They exploited a piece of CGT exemption legislation which is open to all.

This wouldn't grate as much had they paid for the houses themselves......instead we paid for them and they get the profit tax-free....it's taking the p!ss right royally....

Put perfectly.

[Eric Mc]

I agree.

The tax move was perfectly legal - but how the propertyy purchases were funded in the first place was highly questionable from a moral standpoint.