Garbage overfilled car with oil
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Idiotic garage overfilled engine oil.
Got my CX-3 service yesterday.
Supplied my own oil in a 5L jug.
The oil capacity is 4.2 by the way.
After paying the bill, I went to go and get it from their yard, expecting to find my oil bottle in the boot with 800ml'ish of oil in still in it.
It was not there.
Went back into the garage to ask for my missing oil.
As I walked past main entrance into the garage workspace, I spotted my oil bottle on the floor, empty, alarm bells started ringing.
Talked to the head mechanic, who then talked to the "mechanic" who serviced my car, up on meeting, I him came to the immediate conclusion he was less than bright.
Got a shop towel went to my car and dipped the oil, 30% above the max hole.
Drove it very slowly back into the garage where they drained around 800ml of oil.
The mechanic when we got the car back down to ground level, immediately wanted to put more oil in as when he dipped didn't think there was enough in it and wanted to put it all back in, I dipped it myself, and found the oil level just touching the bottom of the top hole = almost perfect.
The car was driven total of around 400 m with the excess oil, and will have never have gotten above 20 miles an hour.
But I don't know how long it was idled for with excess oil
What damage do we think they could have caused?
Oil before and after 800ml'ish was removed
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Got my CX-3 service yesterday.
Supplied my own oil in a 5L jug.
The oil capacity is 4.2 by the way.
After paying the bill, I went to go and get it from their yard, expecting to find my oil bottle in the boot with 800ml'ish of oil in still in it.
It was not there.
Went back into the garage to ask for my missing oil.
As I walked past main entrance into the garage workspace, I spotted my oil bottle on the floor, empty, alarm bells started ringing.
Talked to the head mechanic, who then talked to the "mechanic" who serviced my car, up on meeting, I him came to the immediate conclusion he was less than bright.
Got a shop towel went to my car and dipped the oil, 30% above the max hole.
Drove it very slowly back into the garage where they drained around 800ml of oil.
The mechanic when we got the car back down to ground level, immediately wanted to put more oil in as when he dipped didn't think there was enough in it and wanted to put it all back in, I dipped it myself, and found the oil level just touching the bottom of the top hole = almost perfect.
The car was driven total of around 400 m with the excess oil, and will have never have gotten above 20 miles an hour.
But I don't know how long it was idled for with excess oil
What damage do we think they could have caused?
Oil before and after 800ml'ish was removed
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Edited by cirian75 on Friday 27th June 18:37
Oil changes dont work like that, to the nearest millilitre as there is residual oil in the engine anyway.
Car will be fine, I have had cars that use a bit in the past and they got an overfill so it didnt need topping up as quickly.
You have most of the public who dont bother changing or checking oil until too late, then you are the opposite end of the scale, would perhaps relax a smidge and aim for a diligent middle ground, you wont kill a Japanese car with a slight overfilling of the oil. The abuse they take over the years is by and large a testament to their engineering.
Its when people fill oil right up past the top of the dipstick so the entire block and head is full that will really cause problems, very quickly, often people take "Fill it with oil" very literally and top fresh oil into the filler until it comes right to the top, then the engine does an impression a malfunctioning machine in Willy Wonkas chocolate factory !
Car will be fine, I have had cars that use a bit in the past and they got an overfill so it didnt need topping up as quickly.
You have most of the public who dont bother changing or checking oil until too late, then you are the opposite end of the scale, would perhaps relax a smidge and aim for a diligent middle ground, you wont kill a Japanese car with a slight overfilling of the oil. The abuse they take over the years is by and large a testament to their engineering.
Its when people fill oil right up past the top of the dipstick so the entire block and head is full that will really cause problems, very quickly, often people take "Fill it with oil" very literally and top fresh oil into the filler until it comes right to the top, then the engine does an impression a malfunctioning machine in Willy Wonkas chocolate factory !
Why is such a simple job so hard ? Five times, in different cars at different garages I have had oil changes cocked up. Three times they didn't put enough oil in, once they just drained the oil and didn't put any back in, the other two times it was low enough to put warning lights on the dash, one was actually an EML. The other two times they didn't tighten the new oil filter up enough, leaving it leaking oil out.
ChocolateFrog said:
If you want something doing properly you have to do it yourself. No excuses really with something as easy an oil change.
I used to, was a place in Eccles, where you could hire a ramp for £40 an hourBut all the self-service ramps in the Manchester area appear to have closed for good.
And I live on a terraced street so DIY is a pain in the arse.
Edited by cirian75 on Friday 27th June 11:05
ChocolateFrog said:
No excuses really with something as easy an oil change.
There are plenty of people in the world who don't want to grovel on the ground getting covered in grime. There is nothing at all wrong with paying a professional to do it. I maintain my own cars and I suspect you do too, but to suggest that this is the only sensible option for the general population is nuts. Only a tiny fraction of car owners are willing and able to service their own cars, and there's nothing wrong with that.GreenV8S said:
ChocolateFrog said:
No excuses really with something as easy an oil change.
There are plenty of people in the world who don't want to grovel on the ground getting covered in grime. There is nothing at all wrong with paying a professional to do it. I maintain my own cars and I suspect you do too, but to suggest that this is the only sensible option for the general population is nuts. Only a tiny fraction of car owners are willing and able to service their own cars, and there's nothing wrong with that.Back when I were a lad as an apprentice at an awful BL main stealers, we had a seperate 2 bay service area. Dick one of the mechanics, had a Marina in. He pulled it out to do a road test and as he went up Woodford high road the car disappeared in a huge cloud of smoke. When he got back, we dipped the oil to discover that he had forgotten to drain the old engine oil out…..
Krikkit said:
GreenV8S said:
ChocolateFrog said:
No excuses really with something as easy an oil change.
There are plenty of people in the world who don't want to grovel on the ground getting covered in grime. There is nothing at all wrong with paying a professional to do it. I maintain my own cars and I suspect you do too, but to suggest that this is the only sensible option for the general population is nuts. Only a tiny fraction of car owners are willing and able to service their own cars, and there's nothing wrong with that.But at the age of about 22, couple years into full time employment, I had a few busy weeks and was struggling to find time to get around to changing te oil in my newly acquired and well over due a service daily driver. So I paid a garage to do the job.
Having priced the job in a lunch hour, the bill for having it done was...... ..... £8 more than doing it myself!
Given the garage in question was a 2min walk from my house, and I liked the owner, it was a total no brainer.
Not done an oil change myself since, other than on the kitcar.
Krikkit said:
GreenV8S said:
ChocolateFrog said:
No excuses really with something as easy an oil change.
There are plenty of people in the world who don't want to grovel on the ground getting covered in grime. There is nothing at all wrong with paying a professional to do it. I maintain my own cars and I suspect you do too, but to suggest that this is the only sensible option for the general population is nuts. Only a tiny fraction of car owners are willing and able to service their own cars, and there's nothing wrong with that.Gassing Station | Engines & Drivetrain | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff