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Wife wants kids. I don't. Is it time I grew up?

Wife wants kids. I don't. Is it time I grew up?

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alock

3,516 posts

134 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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FamilyGuy said:
otolith said:
I've yet to meet a parent who is raising kids as a selfless public service to prop up the public pension system.
And who said they were? wink But for the child-haters there are some upsides to consider and without the "next generation" the current generation would be in deep trouble. Agreed not those of us with good private pensions, own our houses and have saved. ETA: Well - for the moment, but new taxes can pop up at anytime.

Edited by FamilyGuy on Monday 6th July 11:40
Money is useless without a workforce and services to spend it on.

HundredthIdiot

4,414 posts

207 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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FamilyGuy said:
perhaps if society hadn't leapt to the ludicrous assumption that everyone deserves to go into further education merely because they want to, then we wouldn't have to have the fee's? If people would grow up a bit and accept the fact that not every one of their offspring is a challenger to Einstein we could ensure those with learning ability excel and those that don't find their own niche.
Quoted for irony. wink

alock

3,516 posts

134 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Coco H said:
Andy Zarse said:
smifffymoto said:
In my experience couples with no children are very self centered and selfish.They expect to be able to do what they want,when they want,all of the time.When they can't it's a big problem and families are usually to blame.They really do need to be more tolerant.
Great opening challenge for the "Daftest Post of the Week" competition.
Have to agree. I have children and think we are the selfish ones for having them. They are great but hard work.
I have to agree with smifffymoto. This is my opinion based on only knowing a handful of childless couples (over 50 years old). I'm sure others are different but we can only base our opinions on our own experiences can't we?

The only conclusion I can come to is that ALL couples end up being obsessive about a common interest. If the couple have children then their obsession with their children seem natural to me. If they don't have children then it ends up being something that I always stuggle to relate to. 3 of the hobbies these childless couples have are:
1) Horses
2) Recycling (includes walking the streets at 5:00am picking up rubbish)
3) Cheese (I kid you not, imagine spending 50+ years where your goal in life is sampling different cheeses from around the world)

Edited by alock on Monday 6th July 12:08

Tyre_Tread

8,853 posts

139 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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FamilyGuy said:
crofty1984 said:
Tyre_Tread said:
For how long? A minute, An hour, two hours? In what circmstances? In a pub? A restaurant, a church, a crematorium, all of which I have witnessed with parents doing nothing to placate or remove the child because 'its what children do'

A bit like knives and guns, children are not necessarily the problem its what you do with them, where you take them and how you treat them that affects other people.
In reverse order:

Crematorium, just drown it out by singing "Circle of life" really loudly.
Church, I don't go to church. Though I guess it would be more interesting than the service. Maybe you could drown it out by singing "stuck in the middle with you" really loudly.
Oooh, dinnertime!
biggrin I agree - there are places where a wailing child isn't appropriate, I've whisked our's rapidly out of churches, weddings etc. I think we've wandered way o/t - about how parents manage children as opposed whether to have the little blighters in the first place.
But isn't the latter an indication of whether the parents are mature enough to bring up children responsibly, which iirc, is what the original topic was all about?

Edited by Tyre_Tread on Monday 6th July 12:13

bertie

7,479 posts

207 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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alock said:
Coco H said:
Andy Zarse said:
smifffymoto said:
In my experience couples with no children are very self centered and selfish.They expect to be able to do what they want,when they want,all of the time.When they can't it's a big problem and families are usually to blame.They really do need to be more tolerant.
Great opening challenge for the "Daftest Post of the Week" competition.
Have to agree. I have children and think we are the selfish ones for having them. They are great but hard work.
I have to agree with smifffymoto. This is my opinion based on only knowing a handful of childless couples (over 50 years old). I'm sure others are different but we can only base our opinions on our own experiences can't we?

The only conclusion I can come to is that ALL couples end up being obsessive about a common interest. If the couple have children then their obsession with their children seem natural to me. If they don't have children then it ends up being something that I always stuggle to relate to. 3 of the hobbies these childless couples have are:
1) Horses
2) Recycling (includes walking the streets at 5:00am picking up rubbish)
3) Cheese (I kid you not, imagine spending 50+ years where your goal in life is sampling different cheeses from around the world)

Edited by alock on Monday 6th July 12:08
I know I'll get shot down for this, but I agree too!
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JonRB

53,551 posts

195 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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HundredthIdiot said:
FamilyGuy said:
perhaps if society hadn't leapt to the ludicrous assumption that everyone deserves to go into further education merely because they want to, then we wouldn't have to have the fee's? If people would grow up a bit and accept the fact that not every one of their offspring is a challenger to Einstein we could ensure those with learning ability excel and those that don't find their own niche.
Quoted for irony. wink
Would have been better if you'd quoted the right person then. You screwed up your editing and made FamilyGuy look like he said that when, in fact, he didn't.

Edit: Oh! The irony of it. Doubly so given your username. hehe

Edited by JonRB on Monday 6th July 12:16

Coco H

4,237 posts

160 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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alock said:
Coco H said:
Andy Zarse said:
smifffymoto said:
In my experience couples with no children are very self centered and selfish.They expect to be able to do what they want,when they want,all of the time.When they can't it's a big problem and families are usually to blame.They really do need to be more tolerant.
Great opening challenge for the "Daftest Post of the Week" competition.
Have to agree. I have children and think we are the selfish ones for having them. They are great but hard work.
I have to agree with smifffymoto. This is my opinion based on only knowing a handful of childless couples (over 50 years old). I'm sure others are different but we can only base our opinions on our own experiences can't we?

The only conclusion I can come to is that ALL couples end up being obsessive about a common interest. If the couple have children then their obsession with their children seem natural to me. If they don't have children then it ends up being something that I always stuggle to relate to. 3 of the hobbies these childless couples have are:
1) Horses
2) Recycling (includes walking the streets at 5:00am picking up rubbish)
3) Cheese (I kid you not, imagine spending 50+ years where your goal in life is sampling different cheeses from around the world)

Edited by alock on Monday 6th July 12:08
cheese oh dear rofl

Also think dogs/animal charity type people. Some plane spotters...

tonyvid

9,096 posts

166 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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t951 said:
Any updates?

I am in the same situation. Wife wants a kid, I do not. I love her, love our life, our dogs, our house, etc.

This is something I DO NOT WANT. If I say no, she is gone.

I told her this since our FIRST date. She always figured I would grow up and change. I have changed, I like them LESS now!

I do not see one redeeming factor to children. The argument my mom has is that they are great when you are older.

We have been married 11 years, I don't think she is willing to wait much longer.

Oh, and according to her, my family, etc, I am the bad guy with a screw loose. I don't have even one molecule in my body that get's the need to procreate.
You have my total symapthies and have described me 2.5 years ago as it was exactly the same situation. One of you has to give way but one or both of you will end up very unhappy, I fear. My Ex(there's a clue there) had her 40yr flip, threw all her toys out of the ironic pram and me as well. 2 years on, she is still single, no kids and seriously unhappy....I'll not even start with me. I have a lovely new lady in my life but wish I could wind the clock back and be in my old life. You can't keep her in a cage, she will have to choose if she wants a child more than you but she must realise that(responsible)people don't just meet a new partner and have a child in a year. Do you even know that the pair of you are fertile? It would be a really stter to split up and then find that one, or both, of you can't reproduce. Feel free to PM me if you want to smile




smifffymoto said:
In my experience couples with no children are very self centered and selfish.They expect to be able to do what they want,when they want,all of the time.When they can't it's a big problem and families are usually to blame.They really do need to be more tolerant.
I don't use this one very often but rolleyes

If you ever met me, there is no way that any of that would describe me, quite the opposite. I think its hard to see my point of view about not wanting kids if you do have/want them - it just a different mindset and as different as men are from women. Please try and open your mind, there is more than one way in life.

FNG

2,626 posts

147 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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If that's what they want to do, what's the problem?

They also may not have been able to have children, and have sought out something, anything, to fill their lives instead.



If your choice is children - fine. It's remarkable that some doting parents on these threads label those who don't want children as "child-haters".

I'm sure there's a very tiny minority who can't or don't appreciate a well behaved child. But plenty who despair at hearing the words "let them be - they're just kids" or worse "my child can do whatever they want".

There's a yawing chasm between those viewpoints and not wanting children doesn't make anyone a child-hater.



To the OP - I never wanted children and am unimpressed when presented with my friends' little bundles of joy, who are undoubtedly the apple of their parents' eye and also fully engaged in the process of wrapping said parents round their little finger. None that I've met to date has been a good example of why it's great to have kids, because mainly they're a source of conflict between the mother and father more frequently than they're a bond that brings them closer.

I then met a fantastic woman who is cut from the same cloth as me regarding morals, values, behaviour and so on, and the prospect of having children is no longer a worry - I'm actively looking forward to it. What mattered was knowing that the person I'd be bringing a child up with gave me confidence that we can raise a child to be proud of, as a joint effort and without being on two sides of a divide that has a child in the middle of it.

I still can't be doing with other peoples' children though.

ali_kat

31,309 posts

144 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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tonyvid said:
smifffymoto said:
In my experience couples with no children are very self centered and selfish.They expect to be able to do what they want,when they want,all of the time.When they can't it's a big problem and families are usually to blame.They really do need to be more tolerant.
I don't use this one very often but rolleyes

If you ever met me, there is no way that any of that would describe me, quite the opposite. I think its hard to see my point of view about not wanting kids if you do have/want them - it just a different mindset and as different as men are from women. Please try and open your mind, there is more than one way in life.
I'm with Tony!

But I'd go further in that it is people WITH children that are the ones that expect to be able to do what they want, when they want, all of the time - and their screaming little darlings spoilt it for the rest of the people there. Hell, they even demand access to places children have no place being in (like the pub!)

Davi

17,147 posts

143 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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JonRB said:
HundredthIdiot said:
FamilyGuy said:
perhaps if society hadn't leapt to the ludicrous assumption that everyone deserves to go into further education merely because they want to, then we wouldn't have to have the fee's? If people would grow up a bit and accept the fact that not every one of their offspring is a challenger to Einstein we could ensure those with learning ability excel and those that don't find their own niche.
Quoted for irony. wink
Would have been better if you'd quoted the right person then. You screwed up your editing and made FamilyGuy look like he said that when, in fact, he didn't.

Edit: Oh! The irony of it. Doubly so given your username. hehe

Edited by JonRB on Monday 6th July 12:16
Even more so, as for it to be ironic I'd have had to have been claiming that I was one of those that deserved higher education, which in no way did I do in my comment. My inabilities (and indeed, laziness) when it comes to spelling and grammar on an internet forum is therefore irrelevant.

Tyre_Tread

8,853 posts

139 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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ali_kat said:
tonyvid said:
smifffymoto said:
In my experience couples with no children are very self centered and selfish.They expect to be able to do what they want,when they want,all of the time.When they can't it's a big problem and families are usually to blame.They really do need to be more tolerant.
I don't use this one very often but rolleyes

If you ever met me, there is no way that any of that would describe me, quite the opposite. I think its hard to see my point of view about not wanting kids if you do have/want them - it just a different mindset and as different as men are from women. Please try and open your mind, there is more than one way in life.
I'm with Tony!

But I'd go further in that it is people WITH children that are the ones that expect to be able to do what they want, when they want, all of the time - and their screaming little darlings spoilt it for the rest of the people there. Hell, they even demand access to places children have no place being in (like the pub!)
I know Tony and can confirm that selfish is one word that doesn't apply.

I am firmly in the don't want kids camp. I never have wanted them and no, at my age, its highly unlikely that my mind will change or be changed.

I told my wife within a week of meeting her when I was 29 and she was 30 that if she wanted kids that was fine and drop me a line when they're 21! She has completely accepted that and never given any indication that she has felt otherwise. Now in our mid forties our fate is sealed thank goodness.

I have however 3 brothers who have all marriesd and have children and they have turned out very differently.

Eldest brother's 2 children born 12 years apart and both brought up being given everything they wanted when they wanted abd every need catered for are complete spoiled brats (Eldest now late twenties) and have no idea of how to relate to others. Expect everything on a plate and have the 'life's too hard' type attitude.

Brother number 2 Failed marriage. 2 children who were not far short of phsically abused (Pain not sexual), in fact in retrospect were probably hit regularly when not in public. Both now mid to late twenties and both ill adjusted and find it difficult to hold down jobs, stay with partners and are abusive.

Brother number 3. Never really had any money so couldn't always give them the best of everything but both parents always spent loads of time with the 3 kids and 'Mum' sayed at home while the kids grew up. THese 3 are really well adjusted, happy, people now aged 18, 20 and 23. One has just qualified as a Quatity Surveyor, second it at Uni and third is just about to start Uni. I have always had a gret relationship with these 3 Nephews and niece and was asked to bring them up if anything happened to Mum and Dad to which I readily agreed but I still have no desire to have kids of my own.

Just for the record, my wife and I hate recycling, have no obsession with cheese and although we have a dog it doesn't run our lives and doesn't dominate our conversation. We both have common and separate interests which we pursue.

tonyvid

9,096 posts

166 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Tyre_Tread said:
ali_kat said:
tonyvid said:
smifffymoto said:
In my experience couples with no children are very self centered and selfish.They expect to be able to do what they want,when they want,all of the time.When they can't it's a big problem and families are usually to blame.They really do need to be more tolerant.
I don't use this one very often but rolleyes

If you ever met me, there is no way that any of that would describe me, quite the opposite. I think its hard to see my point of view about not wanting kids if you do have/want them - it just a different mindset and as different as men are from women. Please try and open your mind, there is more than one way in life.
I'm with Tony!

But I'd go further in that it is people WITH children that are the ones that expect to be able to do what they want, when they want, all of the time - and their screaming little darlings spoilt it for the rest of the people there. Hell, they even demand access to places children have no place being in (like the pub!)
I know Tony and can confirm that selfish is one word that doesn't apply.......
thumbup Cheers mate.

Oh, and I love cheese - bks!!!

Tyre_Tread

8,853 posts

139 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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tonyvid said:
Tyre_Tread said:
ali_kat said:
tonyvid said:
smifffymoto said:
In my experience couples with no children are very self centered and selfish.They expect to be able to do what they want,when they want,all of the time.When they can't it's a big problem and families are usually to blame.They really do need to be more tolerant.
I don't use this one very often but rolleyes

If you ever met me, there is no way that any of that would describe me, quite the opposite. I think its hard to see my point of view about not wanting kids if you do have/want them - it just a different mindset and as different as men are from women. Please try and open your mind, there is more than one way in life.
I'm with Tony!

But I'd go further in that it is people WITH children that are the ones that expect to be able to do what they want, when they want, all of the time - and their screaming little darlings spoilt it for the rest of the people there. Hell, they even demand access to places children have no place being in (like the pub!)
I know Tony and can confirm that selfish is one word that doesn't apply.......
thumbup Cheers mate.

Oh, and I love cheese - bks!!!
Only the truth Tony!

I didn't say we don't like cheese, only that we don't have an obsession with: Abbaye de Belloc
Abbaye de Citeaux
Abbaye du Mont des Cats
Abertam
Abondance
Acapella
Ackawi
Acorn
Adelost
Affidelice au Chablis
Afuega'l Pitu
Airag
Airedale
Aisy Cendre
Allgauer Emmentaler
Alverca
Ambert
American Cheese
Ami du Chambertin
Anejo Enchilado
Anneau du Vic-Bilh
Anthoriro
Appenzell
Aragon
Ardi Gasna
Ardrahan
Armenian String
Aromes au Gene de Marc
Asadero
Asiago
Aubisque Pyrenees
Autun
Avaxtskyr
Baby Swiss
Babybel
Baguette Laonnaise
Bakers
Baladi
Balaton
Bandal
Banon
Barry's Bay Cheddar
Basing
Basket Cheese
Bath Cheese
Bavarian Bergkase
Baylough
Beaufort
Beauvoorde
Beenleigh Blue
Beer Cheese
Bel Paese
Bergader
Bergere Bleue
Berkswell
Bethmale des Pyrénées
Bethmale of the Pyrenees
Beyaz Peynir
Bierkase
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Blarney
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Bleu de Gex
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Bleu de Septmoncel
Bleu de Termignon Alpage
Bleu Des Causses
Blue
Blue Castello
Blue of Termignon
Blue Rathgore
Blue Vein (Australian)
Blue Vein Cheeses
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Bonchester
Bosworth
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Boulette d'Avesnes
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Bouyssou
Bra
Braudostur
Breakfast Cheese
Brebis du Lavort
Brebis du Lochois
Brebis du Puyfaucon
Bresse Bleu
Brick
Brie
Brie au poivre
Brie de Meaux
Brie de Melun
Brie with pepper
Brillat-Savarin
Brin
Brin d' Amour
Brin d'Amour
Brinza (Burduf Brinza)
Briquette de Brebis
Briquette du Forez
Broccio
Broccio Demi-Affine
Brousse du Rove
Bruder Basil
Brusselae Kaas (Fromage de Bruxelles)
Bryndza
Buchette d'Anjou
Buffalo
Burgos
Butte
Butterkase
Button (Innes)
Buxton Blue
Cabecou
Caboc
Cabrales
Cachaille
Caciocavallo
Caciotta
Caerphilly
Cairnsmore
Calenzana
Cambazola
Camembert de Normandie
Canadian Cheddar
Canestrato
Cantal
Caprice des Dieux
Capricorn Goat
Capriole Banon
Caravane
Carre de l'Est
Casciotta di Urbino
Cashel Blue
Castellano
Castelleno
Castelmagno
Castelo Branco
Castigliano
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Celtic Promise
Cendre d'Olivet
Cerney
Chabichou
Chabichou du Poitou
Chabis de Gatine
Chaource
Charolais
Chaumes
Cheddar
Cheddar Clothbound
Cheshire
Chevres
Chevrotin des Aravis
Chontaleno
Civray
Coeur de Camembert au Calvados
Coeur de Chevre
Cojack
Colby
Colby-Jack
Cold Pack
Comte
Coolea
Cooleney
Coquetdale
Corleggy
Cornish Pepper
Cotherstone
Cotija
Cottage Cheese
Cottage Cheese (Australian)
Cougar Gold
Coulommiers
Coverdale
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Cream Cheese
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Crema Agria
Crema Mexicana
Creme Fraiche
Crescenza
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Crottin de Chavignol
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Crowdie
Crowley
Cuajada
Curd
Cure Nantais
Curworthy
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Cypress Grove Chevre
Danablu (Danish Blue)
Danbo
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Daralagjazsky
Dauphin
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Derby
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Devon Blue
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Doolin
Doppelrhamstufel
Dorset Blue Vinney
Double Gloucester
Double Worcester
Dreux a la Feuille
Dry Jack
Duddleswell
Dunbarra
Dunlop
Dunsyre Blue
Duroblando
Durrus
Dutch Mimolette (Commissiekaas)
Edam
Edelpilz
Emental Grand Cru
Emlett
Emmental
Epoisses de Bourgogne
Esbareich
Esrom
Etorki
Evansdale Farmhouse Brie
Evora De L'Alentejo
Exmoor Blue
Explorateur
Farmer
Feta
Feta (Australian)
Figue
Filetta
Fin-de-Siecle
Finlandia Swiss
Finn
Fiore Sardo
Fleur du Maquis
Flor de Guia
Flower Marie
Folded
Folded cheese with mint
Fondant de Brebis
Fontainebleau
Fontal
Fontina Val d'Aosta
Formaggio di capra
Fougerus
Four Herb Gouda
Fourme d' Ambert
Fourme de Haute Loire
Fourme de Montbrison
Fresh Jack
Fresh Mozzarella
Fresh Ricotta
Fresh Truffles
Fribourgeois
Friesekaas
Friesian
Friesla
Frinault
Fromage a Raclette
Fromage Corse
Fromage de Montagne de Savoie
Fromage Frais
Fruit Cream Cheese
Frying Cheese
Fynbo
Gabriel
Galette du Paludier
Galette Lyonnaise
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Gammelost
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Geitost
Gippsland Blue
Gjetost
Gloucester
Golden Cross
Gorgonzola
Gornyaltajski
Gospel Green
Gouda
Goutu
Gowrie
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Graddost
Grafton Village Cheddar
Grana
Grana Padano
Grand Vatel
Grataron d' Areches
Gratte-Paille
Graviera
Greuilh
Greve
Gris de Lille
Gruyere
Gubbeen
Guerbigny
Halloumi
Halloumy (Australian)
Haloumi-Style Cheese
Harbourne Blue
Havarti
Heidi Gruyere
Hereford Hop
Herrgardsost
Herriot Farmhouse
Herve
Hipi Iti
Hubbardston Blue Cow
Humboldt Fog
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Iberico
Idaho Goatster
Idiazabal
Il Boschetto al Tartufo
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Isle of Mull
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King Island Cape Wickham Brie
King River Gold
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Leicester
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Liptauer
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Manchego
Manouri
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Marble Cheddar
Marbled Cheeses
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Margotin
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Mascarpone (Australian)
Mascarpone Torta
Matocq
Maytag Blue
Meira
Menallack Farmhouse
Menonita
Meredith Blue
Mesost
Metton (Cancoillotte)
Meyer Vintage Gouda
Mihalic Peynir
Milleens
Mimolette
Mine-Gabhar
Mini Baby Bells
Mixte
Molbo
Monastery Cheeses
Mondseer
Mont D'or Lyonnais
Montasio
Monterey Jack
Monterey Jack Dry
Morbier
Morbier Cru de Montagne
Mothais a la Feuille
Mozzarella
Mozzarella (Australian)
Mozzarella di Bufala
Mozzarella Fresh, in water
Mozzarella Rolls
Muenster
Munster
Murol
Mycella
Myzithra
Naboulsi
Nantais
Neufchatel
Neufchatel (Australian)
Niolo
Nokkelost
Northumberland
Oaxaca
Olde York
Olivet au Foin
Olivet Bleu
Olivet Cendre
Orkney Extra Mature Cheddar
Orla
Oschtjepka
Ossau Fermier
Ossau-Iraty
Oszczypek
Oxford Blue
P'tit Berrichon
Palet de Babligny
Paneer
Panela
Pannerone
Pant ys Gawn
Parmesan (Parmigiano)
Parmigiano Reggiano
Pas de l'Escalette
Passendale
Pasteurized Processed
Pate de Fromage
Patefine Fort
Pave d'Affinois
Pave d'Auge
Pave de Chirac
Pave du Berry
Pecorino
Pecorino in Walnut Leaves
Pecorino Romano
Peekskill Pyramid
Pelardon des Cevennes
Pelardon des Corbieres
Penamellera
Penbryn
Pencarreg
Pepper jack
Perail de Brebis
Petit Morin
Petit Pardou
Petit-Suisse
Picodon de Chevre
Picos de Europa
Pinconning
Piora
Pithtviers au Foin
Plateau de Herve
Plymouth Cheese
Podhalanski
Poivre d'Ane
Polkolbin
Pont l'Eveque
Port Nicholson
Port-Salut
Postel
Pouligny-Saint-Pierre
Pourly
Prastost
Pressato
Prince-Jean
Processed Cheddar
Provel
Provolone
Provolone (Australian)
Pyengana Cheddar
Pyramide
Quark
Quark (Australian)
Quartirolo Lombardo
Quatre-Vents
Quercy Petit
Queso Blanco
Queso Blanco con Frutas --Pina y Mango
Queso de Murcia
Queso del Montsec
Queso del Tietar
Queso Fresco
Queso Fresco (Adobera)
Queso Iberico
Queso Jalapeno
Queso Majorero
Queso Media Luna
Queso Para Frier
Queso Quesadilla
Rabacal
Raclette
Ragusano
Raschera
Reblochon
Red Leicester
Regal de la Dombes
Reggianito
Remedou
Requeson
Richelieu
Ricotta
Ricotta (Australian)
Ricotta Salata
Ridder
Rigotte
Rocamadour
Rollot
Romano
Romans Part Dieu
Roncal
Roquefort
Roule
Rouleau De Beaulieu
Royalp Tilsit
Rubens
Rustinu
Saaland Pfarr
Saanenkaese
Saga
Sage Derby
Sainte Maure
Saint-Marcellin
Saint-Nectaire
Saint-Paulin
Salers
Samso
San Simon
Sancerre
Sap Sago
Sardo
Sardo Egyptian
Sbrinz
Scamorza
Schabzieger
Schloss
Selles sur Cher
Selva
Serat
Seriously Strong Cheddar
Serra da Estrela
Sharpam
Shelburne Cheddar
Shropshire Blue
Siraz
Sirene
Smoked Gouda
Somerset Brie
Sonoma Jack
Sottocenare al Tartufo
Soumaintrain
Sourire Lozerien
Spenwood
Sraffordshire Organic
St. Agur Blue Cheese
Stilton
Stinking Bishop
String
Sussex Slipcote
Sveciaost
Swaledale
Sweet Style Swiss
Swiss
Syrian (Armenian String)
Tala
Taleggio
Tamie
Tasmania Highland Chevre Log
Taupiniere
Teifi
Telemea
Testouri
Tete de Moine
Tetilla
Texas Goat Cheese
Tibet
Tillamook Cheddar
Tilsit
Timboon Brie
Toma
Tomme Brulee
Tomme d'Abondance
Tomme de Chevre
Tomme de Romans
Tomme de Savoie
Tomme des Chouans
Tommes
Torta del Casar
Toscanello
Touree de L'Aubier
Tourmalet
Trappe (Veritable)
Trois Cornes De Vendee
Tronchon
Trou du Cru
Truffe
Tupi
Turunmaa
Tymsboro
Tyn Grug
Tyning
Ubriaco
Ulloa
Vacherin-Fribourgeois
Valencay
Vasterbottenost
Venaco
Vendomois
Vieux Corse
Vignotte
Vulscombe
Waimata Farmhouse Blue
Washed Rind Cheese (Australian)
Waterloo
Weichkaese
Wellington
Wensleydale
White Stilton
Whitestone Farmhouse
Wigmore
Woodside Cabecou
Xynotyro
Yarg Cornish
Yarra Valley Pyramid
Yorkshire Blue
Zamorano
Zanetti Grana Padano
Zanetti Parmigiano Reggiano

Or any other cheese for that matter.

hehe

HundredthIdiot

4,414 posts

207 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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JonRB said:
Would have been better if you'd quoted the right person then. You screwed up your editing and made FamilyGuy look like he said that when, in fact, he didn't.

Edit: Oh! The irony of it. Doubly so given your username. hehe
Ah balls. hehe

Anyway, dragging myself vaguely on topic...

I don't think having kids makes you intrinsically more or less selfish, but the pressures on time and money tend to bring out the worst in people.

The incidence of complete sense of humour failure and loss of perspective appears to be higher than in the childless population.

Obviously this doesn't apply to me; I've only become more reasonable and relaxed since procreating. smile

JonRB

53,551 posts

195 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Tyre_Tread said:
(huge list of cheeses)
Ah, the extended version of the Monty Python Cheese Shop sketch. hehe

"I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to shoot you now"
"Fair enough, Sir"

Tyre_Tread

8,853 posts

139 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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JonRB said:
Tyre_Tread said:
(huge list of cheeses)
Ah, the extended version of the Monty Python Cheese Shop sketch. hehe

"I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to shoot you now"
"Fair enough, Sir"
I take it you are a purveyor of cheesy commestibles?

tonyvid

9,096 posts

166 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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JonRB said:
Tyre_Tread said:
(huge list of cheeses)
Ah, the extended version of the Monty Python Cheese Shop sketch. hehe

"I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to shoot you now"
"Fair enough, Sir"
rofl at you both - that has to be one of the most surreal PH lists ever....and I have got the munchies now!

FamilyGuy

850 posts

113 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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JonRB said:
Edit: Oh! The irony of it. Doubly so given your username. hehe
laugh Cheers Jon. Too true, I can make an arse of myself with my own words without the assistance of someone elses.

otolith

34,406 posts

127 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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alock said:
FamilyGuy said:
otolith said:
I've yet to meet a parent who is raising kids as a selfless public service to prop up the public pension system.
And who said they were? wink But for the child-haters there are some upsides to consider and without the "next generation" the current generation would be in deep trouble. Agreed not those of us with good private pensions, own our houses and have saved. ETA: Well - for the moment, but new taxes can pop up at anytime.
Money is useless without a workforce and services to spend it on.
The world is not going to run short of people any time soon.